Did you file a police report?it is because you were not the one being abused. I doubt you would know. Nothing wrong about backing the manager, but when other had negative opinion about Ole during that period where we had good result, they definitely were more vocal against criticismof ole. It is weird how quiet they have become now or flipped flopped.
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Zidane apparently isn’t interested - also doesn’t speak English.
Think people have to be realistic about the fact that due to the actions of the board over the last 8 years, the club is now considered a joke in elite football terms. A joke.
Whoever comes in knows that the board, club structure and culture is all broken and useless.
The board has (again) placed Man Utd in the position of needing someone to bail them out of the ridiculous decisions they’ve made in recent years and that proposition won’t be appealing to every manager, people need to understand that.
Think about the foundations that City had to lay before Guardiola would come ffs.
You’re not gonna get a luxury manager in this situation, you’re not gonna get to just ‘choose’ champagne football.
The situation that the board at Utd have created now requires someone who’s a good, practical coach and also a DOGGED character.
People need to get real about Utd is right now.
True. But unlike previous times, we now have a really good squad. And ole has brought the culture back. So we’re not in as bad shape as you suggest. Any good manager would fancy a chance at the United job with this current team. And the assurances of the board. Who let’s face it, have actually backed Ole this time.
Nah, I just filed a recognition report so these poster who were smug back then realized how wrong they were and how right I was.
I'm happy for you. Finally got one right.‘Brought the culture back’…? Culture of what? Genuine question mate.
I agree with your points about a better squad and backing etc, and I also think Ole deserves credit for the job he did for the initial 3 months he was interim…
But after that, I really don’t see what he’s brought back to Utd culturally. Have you been watching matches this season?
Broken dressing room, outdated mid table tactics, mismanaged players, players signed for big money sat unhappy on the bench…
And also a completely divided fanbase and a media / manager relationship that is embarrassing to the club.
If Ole has done anything positive at Utd he’s surely very close right now to undoing it all?
Mourinho’s tenure at least harvested the tangible currency of actual trophies. Ole’s time at Utd has brought no tangible benefit - only ethereal notions of achievement.
Could you elaborate more on this?
What does it actually means "bring the culture back", "United DNA" etc?
It has been more than one. Spurs fan was equally smug, and the leceister fans when I doubted Ranieri. Anyway, I am not going to list how many times I have been right because it would take too long.
It's standard online interaction, across all platforms. A lot of people want to 'win' the discussion.
I tend to lose faith in players when they miss the goal alone with keeper, but here we are
There's players at the club who'll be on to their 3rd or 4th Manager if/when Ole is replaced.
I fear that we'll see the usual players have their 10-15 game new manager bounce and then revert to type.
I fear that we'll see the usual players have their 10-15 game new manager bounce and then revert to type.
That's one of the weird things about Ole's time.
In an interview he admitted he was hands off for that period, he let Mckenna and Carrick decide what to do when he came in, we played a 433 and played very well, flowing football, new manager bounce is the obvious call. Ole started taking control of formations and tactics later and we tanked like a stone. At the same time we did get injuries to Herrera and Pogba and Matic and it was transpiring Herrera was not staying, it was maybe right to explore other tactics but that poor run from March to the end of the season getting beat by Cardiff continued into the next season where we climbed out the bottom half, the formation really only made sense when Bruno made it work. He's been the unofficial captain since he joined. We were in state from March to Dec.
While I'm really questionable of the staff I do wonder how much Ole is spoiling it all.
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A few journos going with that it seems. Writings on the wall when the reports of losing the players start to appear. He won’t make it to the Spurs game.
I know Ole has to take the blame but if I played like these lads did on Sunday and then spoke to the press on Monday to blame my manager I would rightly think of myself as an overpaid cnut.
I swear some of these players, think they are Ronaldo level. Gary mentions it and I think he’s right on that point.
Feckin own it. The manager didn’t un-teach you how to put some effort in.
Agree to an extent but in a team as disorganised as yesterdays players can try hard without it benefitting the team. Its also quite demoralising knowing you arent well drilled ebough to challenge
Quality of the players isn't the problem. The Liverpool game and Leicester game before that showed our complete disorganization on the field. The players have a right to be angry. Liverpool, especially, because they themselves didn't play all that well, except Salah. But the system they had was effective and they obliterated us without ever going in second gear.
One of the players complaining may well be Ronaldo level...
Either players are stupid or just ignorance, thinking before that Ole can be compared to those other managers?
As much as I feel Ole is out of his depth managing United, I do feel sorry for him. He’s a decent man and I always feel he takes stuff on the chin rather than throw players/supporters/staff under the bus. He is a top guy really…which makes his inadequacy as a top manager hard to take. It’s a shame as he would be a perfect United manger if he was competent.
If the club are going to sack him, then just fecking do it and get it over with. Twitter has been bad for Ole today and to have his job banded around must be tough and he doesn’t deserve it.
As a player, he will always be a huge part of what I love about this club.
If the club are going to sack him, then just fecking do it and get it over with. Twitter has been bad for Ole today and to have his job banded around must be tough and he doesn’t deserve it.
As a player, he will always be a huge part of what I love about this club.
Sure. I'm saying that the last days of Mourinho was like a morgue. Ole brought the joy back and made us United again. Yes, his recent results have slightly muddied that but these are not broken players like they were before. Mourinho practically destroyed Shaw. The place was toxic. The place is not toxic now. It doesn't require as much fixing. It just needs someone who can actually coach us how to play football. Do that and we'll soon be flying again. We have a great squad we are not as broke as we appear is simply my point.
Yeah, I have same questions. Not so sure about Carrick but I thought McKenna was viewed very highly as a young, upcoming coach Spurs. I don't want him as the main coach but if he was good, it would be a shame to lose him. But at the same time I find the way we're playing and our tactics absolutely unfathomable. I also don't understand how originally Ole wanted us to be the fittest most hard-working pressing team in the league and now we're the least? How and why does he seem to have gone against all he believed in? A lot of things are really baffling right now.
so basically Ole had to just show up for the culture to be back. Anyone else could've done that then.
He is staying lads. No news yet means that he will get another chance.
No news is usually bad news for the manager, they backed him to the hilt after the Leicester game.
Even if the board are still too spineless to act now, those dressing room revelations, all the briefings from players against Ole and his staff. There's no coming back from that.
If he thought he had the trust or faith of his players before today, that illusion will now be totally shattered.
If he thought he had the trust or faith of his players before today, that illusion will now be totally shattered.
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actually today has dispelled my concerns that he might stay. No backing from the club whatsoever, leaks of him losing the dressing room, rumours of talks with Conte.
Ole will be gone tomorrow.
Which is weird because i think most of us could see this coming. Except for UnitedSofa or whoever.
It's always so weird to me when I hear about this, not just Zidane but whoever. He's a relatively young man from a country in close proximity to (and a lot of history with) England, whose career had him travelling all over the world, and where he has to work with people of all nationalities. He's exceedingly wealthy. He's a sports manager in a game where England has by far the most influence on club level. And somehow he doesn't speak English? I can't even understand how that's possible. To my knowledge, English is compulsory in French schools. On the two occasions that I visited the country, I didn't meet anyone under the age of like 60 who couldn't speak English well enough to at least hold a basic conversation. It's not my first language so I'm not saying this out of some sense of "how dare he not speak my language?!" or anything like that. I can't imagine not speaking English in the information age, and doubly so in a line of work that involves constant travel all over the world. It's one thing if it's someone from Asia or something, but a Frenchman? Really? Half the English vocabulary is derived from French.
I think that's the sad truth, yeah. Mourinho had sucked the joy out of the club. It was toxic and rotten. Ole brought the feel-good vibes by being a Utd legend and letting players express themselves again. So, yeah, based on that, any ex-United
player could have done similar. It's like having strict boring teacher and then him going on holiday. Fun for a while until you realize you're not learning shit.
Rumour mill has been rife today with leaks from (allegedly) inside the club then reports that we've been in touch with Conte.
The powers that be will be fully aware of that but choose to say nothing, which just highlights what type of people are now running the club.
Ole in it Ole out doesn't matter right now.
they should sack him or back him but please show the man some respect, don't just let this drag on.
The powers that be will be fully aware of that but choose to say nothing, which just highlights what type of people are now running the club.
Ole in it Ole out doesn't matter right now.
they should sack him or back him but please show the man some respect, don't just let this drag on.
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Show the man respect? How about that he shows some respect and resigns? After he got a chance that he didn't deserve (well based on his CV, he didn't), he got maximum backing and 3 years time and in return won nothing.
He deserves to be bashed and treated without any respect. Yesterday he had a chance to go like a man. He decided to wait for sack.
So.....feck him and his legendary status. As a player he is still a legend but as a coach ultimate disaster.
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I feel for Ole.
Some of his quotes send you mad but he cares passionately about this club and he's outperformed expectations. If you told me at the end of 2018-2019 season that Ole would get us two top four finishes and a Europa League final then I'd have been amazed. He needs to go but the job he's done thus hasn't been too bad for the man from Molde.
Anyway the sad thing about all this is that Ole is coming a cropper by just not being good enough. There's no massive fall out. There's no showdown with the board or a clash of personalities. He's just not good enough to take us to where we need to belong. It's that simple really.
Some of his quotes send you mad but he cares passionately about this club and he's outperformed expectations. If you told me at the end of 2018-2019 season that Ole would get us two top four finishes and a Europa League final then I'd have been amazed. He needs to go but the job he's done thus hasn't been too bad for the man from Molde.
Anyway the sad thing about all this is that Ole is coming a cropper by just not being good enough. There's no massive fall out. There's no showdown with the board or a clash of personalities. He's just not good enough to take us to where we need to belong. It's that simple really.
Get to feck
League finishes aside, getting to a Europa League final is not an accomplishment to be amazed by. It's not even really an accomplishment.
This club has nothing to do with football anymore.
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