it's getting embarrassing now
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Yeah exactly and don't be surprised if other rivals join in on the fun as well like City when they play tomorrow night
Even Championship clubs wouldn’t touch Ole.
As @FootyGirl88 post just showed, Leeds fans are having a go with Ole's at the wheel in their game against Arsenal too. Clearly our rival fans are enjoying this situation.
top bit is being sarcastic.
Leeds laugh at Ole yet he's run rings round their one trick pony for two seasons now, with a goal deficit that is laughable. 
Pipe down Leeds, you've been the easiest guaranteed 3 points we've had in decades.
Pipe down Leeds, you've been the easiest guaranteed 3 points we've had in decades.
I know some Arabic. Yes, the gist is as translated in the tweet.
I can guarantee the away support will chant Ole’s name for 90 mins on Saturday
Wish there was a way to quantify this because it’s definitely something I’d be betting against
my whole chakra system destroyed. my whole feng shui all fecked up.
Ole will not find peace on this earth and snakes will manifest in his living room for what he's doing to me. I'm stressed.
I hope we get a result or two and Ole can go out on his shield, but we need to make the change whether he gets results or not, or we will just be having these same conversations in a month or two when results go the same way. He's not good enough. No shame in that, not many are but for the good of the club change needs to happen.
He needs to go back to playing deep and hitting teams on the counter. It's not like there's any chance of us playing dominant football. Needs to do what he knows best to get some results. Especially now since we're seemingly playing all the ball playing teams at the same time. Hit them on the break Ole!
Hiddink unretired a few days ago. Said he'd be open to a job if it didn't involve day to day training on the pitch.
What's Rene Meulensteen up to these days?
Assistant manager of Australia.
Yep, Arabic is my first language. Real indeed.
Honestly can't believe Ole saw it fit to bring back Phelan and not the actual coach of our old sides. The man didn't want to succeed from the beginning. Did he really think McKenna was enough?
Whatever about the dippers singing Ole's name, who cares about the sheep shaggers? He's hammered their beloved Bielsa twice and they might actually go down this season. Some of you need to take a break for the sake of your mental health.
Some of you need to take a break for the sake of your mental health.Seriously,you watch that and this is what you see?
And is a pretty poor pundit, I'd say.
When are we going to talk about the part of the United DNA that doesn't accept mediocrity?
The only reason I can see for not sacking him immediately is to avoid throwing the new guy in against City in his first game.
The only reason I can see for not sacking him immediately is to avoid throwing the new guy in against City in his first game.
My only hope is that Ole is getting fired, but the club want to wait until the international break in order to get a caretaker or actual manager in.
That said, it's a complete joke that he's being allowed to manage us again after our worst performance/result in Premier League history and arguably club history.
It's a farce.
Someone at the club also needs to get some major cojones and tell SAF, Gill, etc to butt out going forward with decision making. I say that with all due respect to SAF. SAF seems way too blinkered when it comes to managers. They're in the past. We need to move on.
That said, it's a complete joke that he's being allowed to manage us again after our worst performance/result in Premier League history and arguably club history.
It's a farce.
Someone at the club also needs to get some major cojones and tell SAF, Gill, etc to butt out going forward with decision making. I say that with all due respect to SAF. SAF seems way too blinkered when it comes to managers. They're in the past. We need to move on.
I don't speak Arabic but i was able to translate the laughs at the end. "hahahaha."
Seriously, have you watched any United lately? Ole was already playing to not lose instead of trying to win. Making defensive subs when we're down, playing with the so called reliable midfield pairing.
I remember seeing this and thinking that was exactly what happened. It shows how utterly lost Ole was in the middle of all this
In response to your final point, perhaps he's willing to give them time? I suspect he'll prefer to stay loyal to the current coaches, given their past connections to the team, rather than look for another coach.
As I see it, a manager has four main areas to oversee:
1) man management
2) instilling footballing philosophy, and integrate into tactical preparation
3) coaching players to fit with point 2)
4) finding players that can be coached to fulfil point 2)
Managers can outsource parts 3 and 4, but needs to be in charge of at least parts 1 and 2. Most managers seem to do 1), 2), and 3). By all accounts, Ferguson did 1), 2), and arguably 4).
Ole's man management seems to me to be his forte. His tactical acumen is open to debate because we simply don't know from our position whether his footballing vision is poor, or whether he has good awareness but has coaches that are struggling to implement it. I think most would agree that we have decent players who ought to be able to follow instructions. People might point to Phelan and say he ought to know what to do, but apparently he also doesn't take charge of training. If Ole were sacked, would the next manager keep hold of the current first team coaches? Very unlikely. As Neville would put it, we need the 'best in class' coaches to let a relative novice manager focus on points 1) and 2), and we need Fletcher and Murtough to be brilliant at 4). That's the only way our performances can gain some kind of consistency. In my opinion...
Ole clearly does 1,2 and 4 as outlined by you the same way Sir Alex used to however he, unlike Sir Alex seemingly can't find folks good enough to do 3. He clearly wants us to play on the front foot with width and pace. He's signed the players he thinks can do it and his man management has been claimed to be quality.
He's failing because his coach have failed him in transitioning from a defensive team focused on hitting teams on the break to a dominant team that always takes the initiative. He also probably knew that unless we make that transition, competing for major titles would be incredibly difficult.
He'll likely be given time because the senior management of the club wants to see rubble before making decisions, he better make changes before it's too late. His coaching staff simply isn't good enough and their planning for each opposition is hopeless.
I replied directly to a comment stating that Ole is sitting in the job for the sole purpose of milking money from the club. Don't put words in my mouth or pretend I'm arguing any other topic than that statement.
Portraying the man as a financial leech is a low bar, even for Redcafe.
You're letting fans of Leeds affect you? Come on now. Let them pretend until the next 6 goal thrashing.
Just unbelievable.
Once some of the senior players start doubting the manager and his methods it's curtains, The board would be better getting this over with quickly so everyone can move on, no point dragging this out and making him suffer, it's mo good for anyone.
Move him on, get a caretaker until a permanent manager is appointed, is there any point leaving him in charge if players aren't happy with him and his entourage.
Move him on, get a caretaker until a permanent manager is appointed, is there any point leaving him in charge if players aren't happy with him and his entourage.
I respect your desire to go down with this sinking shipLeeds laugh at Ole yet he's run rings round their one trick pony for two seasons now, with a goal deficit that is laughable.
Pipe down Leeds, you've been the easiest guaranteed 3 points we've had in decades.
You’ve got a week left and you can pretend you never backed him and he wasn’t the best manager since Fergie.
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Eh? I'm just pointing out the obvious. If Ole is an embarrassment in their view what does that say about their guy.I respect your desire to go down with this sinking ship
You’ve got a week left and you can pretend you never backed him and he wasn’t the best manager since Fergie.
He says that with a surprising amount of confidence for someone who also released a video saying he’d been sacked
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