Mauricio Pochettino or Brendan Rodgers? The big debate…

neither, zero major trophy between them

I think many of us would like Ten Hag, but based on our board I think it is Rodgers vs Poch, so this thread is good for that reason.

I would prefer Poch, the football Spurs played at their peak under him was what I would like us to play. It also would fit more with the players we have at our disposal. Yes we can say that he fell at the final hurdle with Spurs, but I think our squad and especially our resources are better.

(I still would like Ten Hag)

Neither. Both are lousy choices.

macheda14 said:

I think many of us would like Ten Hag, but based on our board I think it is Rodgers vs Poch, so this thread is good for that reason.

I would prefer Poch, the football Spurs played at their peak under him was what I would like us to play. It also would fit more with the players we have at our disposal. Yes we can say that he fell at the final hurdle with Spurs, but I think our squad and especially our resources are better.

(I still would like Ten Hag)

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We should have got him last November if he was the top choice

I don't know if Poch would come now. Utd need to save this season and get into top 4. If Brendan could come now that would be the best option. Then give him another full season to impress.

Brendan Rodgers.

with a gun to my head Poch, but neither fill me with a lot of confidence

It’s not a debate at all.

Poch is a poor option but still an option that the fans could get behind. Just about.

Rodgers is no option, no sane fan wants him anywhere near the club. Doomed to fail.

Tarrou said:

with a gun to my head Poch, but neither fill me with a lot of confidence

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Same I'd say Poch but in an ideal world it would be Ten Hag or Zidane.

I think Pochettino is quite underrated in here.

Most top clubs wanted and wants Pochettino. Many fans on here taught after spurs, he would not go to a big club, yet they were wrong. Pochettino landed one of the biggest job and attracted some of the biggest players in football. If United have any ambition or high standard, then pochettino should be our number 1 target. At psg, he has started of better than Tuchel in his first full season, and United shouldn’t make the same mistake of losing another top manager. However, I feel that Pochettino might go to city if we don’t act quickly.

andersj said:

I think Pochettino is quite underrated in here.

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There is a big disdain for Pochettino in this forum. Every time, he loses or even draw the forum go crazy and bashes him.

Can we stop adding a shitty option like Brendan Rodgers to these debates all the time?

Majority of fans don't want him. That in itself will keep the Glazers from hiring him.

I don't think Poch will leave PSG to take over at Man Utd. Only if he is fired, he will be available.

Amadaeus said:

Most top clubs wanted and wants Pochettino. Many fans on here taught after spurs, he would not go to a big club, yet they were wrong. Pochettino landed one of the biggest job and attracted some of the biggest players in football. If United have any ambition or high standard, then pochettino should be our number 1 target. At psg, he has started of better than Tuchel in his first full season, and United shouldn’t make the same mistake of losing another top manager. However, I feel that Pochettino might go to city if we don’t act quickly.



There is a big disdain for Pochettino in this forum. Every time, he loses or even draw the forum go crazy and bashes him.

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Is it all those Mourinho-fans from back in 2016, who kept arguing that Pochettino never won anything? They stopped loving Mourinho, but never stopped hating on Pochettino?

I do not watch PSG much. I dont think that squad suits him. But what he did at Spurs was, and still is, undervalued. Took over a club that basically never made it into top four, and finished 5th (64p), 3rd (86p), 2nd (77p) and 4th (71p). A team with not history in the CL to a CL-final. After he left, they appear to be back where they used to be. They made it past 70 points once before he arrived (72 points in 2013).

I think he was a bit of a victim of his own success. Quite a few people started talking about how good Eriksen, Ali, Dier, Alderweireld, Dembele and Rose were. Few realized that they were actually not that good before Pochettino came. After watching that Spurs side after he left, they probably should. Pep called them a one man team for a good reason.

Levy never really backed him either. Grealish was considered to expensive, and when he wanted to get rid of a few players (Rose) Levy prevented him.

I think it was a similar case with Southampton. He made Liverpool wanna buy every single player at the club (Lallana, Lambert and Lovren). His Southampton team had the highest possession—figures in the PL in 13/14. Similar to Spurs their build-up was great, they had good transitions, could defend well with a low block, but also put up a really good high press. They were a unit and a team!

Southampton were probably the first team to play a «modern» type of football in the PL. Similar to Liverpool, Man City or Bayern, but without the quality players. It was very good, proactive football, but he was also quite pragmatic about it.

Some say Poch wouldn’t take the United job. I’m pretty sure he’d take it if he could. Lots of young players and he would be able to male big improvements in fitness and organisation quite quickly. He’s never settled as PSG’s coach. If it’s him or Rodgers it’s an easy decision. Rodgers was Liverpool coach so how can he manage United?

Pochettino for me, like what he did at Spurs. Not sure if he would leave PSG to be honest.

Brendons a big no from me, doomed to fail from the beginning, mainly because of his connection with Liverpool, which is kind of ridiculous, but it is what it is, unfortunately the way Brendon rates himself he would jump at the chance I reckon despite the feeling from a large proportion of fans.

Who ever gets to manage United next has to have a proper set of bollocks though, the jobs a poisoned chalice under this ownership.

Doesn’t Poch’s contract run out this season? Could easily see him being our next manager.

Don’t take all the world class managers!

B. Munich said:

I don't think Poch will leave PSG to take over at Man Utd. Only if he is fired, he will be available.

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He’d leave for sure. PSG really isn’t a great job for a coach.

Regulus Arcturus Black said:

He’d leave for sure. PSG really isn’t a great job for a coach.

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His contract expires in the summer don’t it? He won’t win the champions league so they might not bother to extend it.

Berbasbullet said:

His contract expires in the summer don’t it? He won’t win the champions league so they might not bother to extend it.

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Every PSG manager knows they are a dead man walking, I don't think there's any chance a man who really enjoys the coaching aspect and bringing through youth players would turn down a top job in a top league to remain at PsG. You're really on a hiding to nothing there, Tuchel a prime example.

Ten Hag
Poch
Rodgers

They're both great at building systems and moderately choking when things get tight. We'd be probably be a step closer to winning trophies with them, but still not over the line.
Both are a massive tactical and squad utilization upgrade on Ole, so throw either in for all I care.

Pochettino just because he is better at Europe.

Regulus Arcturus Black said:

Every PSG manager knows they are a dead man walking, I don't think there's any chance a man who really enjoys the coaching aspect and bringing through youth players would turn down a top job in a top league to remain at PsG. You're really on a hiding to nothing there, Tuchel a prime example.

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Tuchel isn't a prime example. His issue had nothing to do with coaching, youth football or expectations but the fact that he wanted to purchase players in certain positions and didn't get those players, he then aired his issues during press conferences, Antero Henrique was eventually sacked and then Leonardo cameback, the two of them never got along and one of them had to leave, Tuchel left because he was the one with 6 months left in his contract.

And you are no more a dead man walking at PSG than you are at Bayern, Juventus, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Inter and other big clubs.

Amadaeus said:

Most top clubs wanted and wants Pochettino. Many fans on here taught after spurs, he would not go to a big club, yet they were wrong. Pochettino landed one of the biggest job and attracted some of the biggest players in football.

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And then came 2nd in a one horse league..

Jaae said:

And then came 2nd in a one horse league..

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And 3rd in a two horse race in 2016. He can play good football though, and we’ve got a few more winners in our team than spurs had.

Jaae said:

And then came 2nd in a one horse league..

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That season he actually did better than Tuchel, PSG largely lost their point during the first part of the season, they were third when he took over. And Lille didn't lose much points during the second part of the season.

We had Conte, Tuchel, Poch, Zidane, Ten Hag to approach when it was apparent that Bruno was saving Ole the job and he was really close to getting the sack. Brendan Rodgers is now an option because we are in the middle of season and we have less candidates. Rafacts. What situation have we gotten ourselves into..

I would prefer Pochettino.

The work he did at Southampton was impressive, and what he did with Spurs was borderline miraculous. He's a difficult man to get though. The only way we get Pochettino is if PSG get knocked out of the CL early, or at the end of the season if they fail to win the Champions League. That is one club we can't afford to buy a manager from. I'd much prefer him to Brendan Rodgers, but it would be incredibly difficult to get him. For that reason I'd prefer if we got a deal with Ajax for Ten Hag, who I think is attainable earlier. If PSG actually go on and win the Champions League - which they very well could do given the players they have - I don't see Pochettino as attainable for a couple of seasons at least, unfortunately.

Still really don't want Rodgers regardless... it would be mad to go from "United DNA, all united people staff" to "Former Liverpool Manager". That would be a complete 180. That being said, if he were to be appointed - I'd give him a chance to change my mind. I'd be disappointed and frustrated with our board - so nothing new on that front -, but at the end of the day the manager deserves a chance to actually prove himself. When it comes down to it, if Rodgers is the guy who makes us play brilliantly, win the premier league and knock Liverpool and City down a peg - why would I complain about that? The man was reportedly on the shortlist for the Barca job, and is reportedly on a very short list of possible replacements for Pep at City. His teams play some decent football and are often quite entertaining to watch. So clearly he's not an incompetent coach.

Honestly though... appointing a former Liverpool manager just feels so wrong.

If it is really down to these two, then I would take Poch.

More threads about Rodgers and we complain about standards at the club , looks like our standards are the same.

Neither of the two are good enough to beat Klopp and Pep.

Genuinely think we should stick as we are rather than go for either choice there.

Poch, I’m still convinced that he’s the clubs no.1 target if we replaced Ole. In terms of the way he works, I think he would be very appealing to the club. We have somewhat missed the boat with him unfortunately, but I believe there is an outside chance he would become available as I don’t think he fits the current job at PSG, maybe there’s a deal to be done with the PSG board if we wanted him.

v0latile said:

neither, zero major trophy between them

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Rodgers did win in Scotland but so has Gerrard. I don’t count winning in a two team competition top class, but I would take either just now to get rid of Ole and then wait for a class manager to become available.

Poch

Wanted him last year and still want him now. He over achieved at Spurs no matter what the haters try and throw at him about trophies that squad when he took over and the budget he had he should have been nowhere near top 4 or a title race.

Go look at his net spend in a period when City, Chelsea and United we're outspending spurs by about 5 times. United we're buying Di Maria and Pogba whilst Spurs we're signing Dele from MK Dons and had a unproven striker coming off a few poor loans named Harry Kane.