While I do respect wisdom of the crowd / knowledge of bookies, vocal fans with a higher voice, just matters more in the overall debate.
I think that we can ignore his last season at Spurs,like you said the wheels fell off because of years of under investment.Klopp finished 12th in his final season at Dortmund,that 1 season obviously didn’t make him a bad manager.My choice would be Pochettino….
Agreed. Not considered might be a bit harsh but should definitely not be the option we pick.
What's with some of Pochettino's fans rewriting of history to put him in better light one of them wrote Tottenham never finished top 4 prior to His arrival when infact they finished twice in top 4 with 6th their lowest finish in 5 seasons prior to his arrival and you now stating Klopp finished 12 th in his final season with Dortmund when infact they finished 7th and their underlying stats actually painted a rather rosier picture than their actual finish .
Not baffling at all. Pochettino won’t expose them if he don’t get what he wants. That’s why they don’t want Conte and are so happy with Ole…
Ten hags a massive risk.Never managed in one of the big leagues in Europe…Not sure if he can cut it in the PL….
Its the sort of progressive risk this club should be taking. He proven himself extremely adept in the CL, which is a high quality test of his credentials. Rodgers has proven to be a solid PL manager but has a track record of his teams bottling in the home straight. If we hire him expecting something different we are setting ourselves up for failure. He also has a terrible European record. Zidane’s record is imperious, and Poch has a much better CL record than Rodgers. Hence my order of preference.
As much as I have issues with how Poch has been doing so far at PSG, I don't think you can say he's not winning. They're first in the league with some air to breathe which is more than you can say about last season and they're second in the group despite some pretty mediocre performances, beating City in their first game. The issue though is they seem to be winning in spite of Poch, and not because of him. It's simply relying on a moment of individual brilliance, and because of how much talent he has on his team, it tends to happen more often than not and so far has been enough to carry him through but it won't last unless he actually starts to put his imprint on the team and the clock is ticking.
Meant in the polls
Ah makes sense, and pretty funny indeed.
I just don't get the excitement of sacking a manager that probably won't win the league, to hiring another fairweather manager like Rodgers or Poch who probably won't win the league.
Rodgers and Poch are both better than Ole imo. Both have been successes at other PL clubs. Both have a clear style of play that they have been able to get their teams to play. We should focus on being as good as possible rather than on trying to win the league with the next appointment.
It is weird. Look at his track record and it's super impressive. There only thing I can think it's that United is all about names, marketing etc. It just would seem unlike us to go for somebody like that. I think there's an element of pandering to fans and this guys name isn't being mentioned.
Bit silly to discount Rodgers when your other names are Ten hag and Poch to be fair.
It's not as straightforward as asking "can this manager win the league?". There's a lot of ground we need to make before we ask ourselves that question before appointing a manager, Ole will finish outside the top 4, if he's here till the end of the season, I can out money on that.
I think it is though. Ole has finished in the top 4 in all his seasons here. I think he will finish in the top 4 this year because there's usually a part of the season where he picks up some good form.
Galtier is going no where, he has been freshly employed by Nice, he is one of the few managers that I don't see leave a club quickly and iirc he picked Nice over Lyon because his family lives in Marseille which is apparently a key point.
That's what it isn't, we shouldn't wait to mathematically be out of the top 4 before we make a move, that's a bad way to manage things. Standards for Ole and the new manager might be same as far as league finish is concerned, but they will be different in terms of what happens during games, how we setup, how we play.
No point playing pretty football and getting crap results in the Premier League. At the end of the day, you'd still get the sack. I'm not even sure Poch or Rodgers' football is that pretty anyhow.
Not pretty, better football, it obviously does not guarantee top 4 but it does increase the chances of a higher finish in the table. Poch has done it with Spurs, Brendon has been on the fringes with Leicester (although I wouldn't want either of them).
Oh come on. This is not the first time you've seen the Ole coaster. We go on incredible highs and despicable lows during the course of the season. On those highs we look like we can beat anyone, on the lows we look like we could lose to anyone. Over the course of the season things average out to a top 4 finish.
It's hardly the big debate when the majority want someone else!
There's surely some area between not winning anything and getting humiliated by the teams we aspire to finish above, isn't there?
