Yeah but the previous managers won trophies by sacrificing the league completely. Ole got us to semis and finals by trying to win every match, which ended up being his downfall, as we were knackered in those semis and finals.The only manager post SAF who didn't win a single trophy with United that was after spending 415m
Because you guys are wrongYeah but the previous managers won trophies by sacrificing the league completely. Ole got us to semis and finals by trying to win every match, which ended up being his downfall, as we were knackered in those semis and finals.
Anyway there are plenty of threads around that are dedicated to denigrating Ole, why do you need to be in here arguing with those of us who think he did alright up until this season?
Fantastic post indeed. I agree with every single word of yours. Especially the part he's failed his dream. It must hurt a lot.I think he took over a club with a toxic atmosphere
he took over a squad with misfits, expensive disasters and players who just weren't performing or good enough like Sanchez, Rojo, Darmian, Fellaini, Young and Lukaku (who rarely looked interested in a United shirt).
In spite of how awful we have been this year he leaves a squad that a new manager with some sort of tactical and coaching acumen can get much more out of. At the beginning of this season I had hoped that we would launch a title challenge based on the quality of our squad. These are still the same players.
We overpaid on Maguire and Wan Bissaka but is that on Ole? partly at least. Van De Beek has been puzzling and I'm glad Sancho will get a fresh start under a new manager.
Overall if you cast your mind back to December 18 the atmosphere was worse for me and we had a squad really lacking quality with Rashford our main attacking force with players like Young and Pereira playing regularly. Ole's decline has been really really sharp but he should have been relieved after the Liverpool game. The indecision is on the board.
The fans are united I think in Ole going. He never turned the fans against the players like Jose. He did the exact same thing at Spurs and by the sounds of things he's doing it at Roma. He tried to convince us players like Luke Shaw were brainless remember.
In terms of fan division the only issue I have is with the disrespect Ole has received on here which has resembled Twitter at times. I'm 43 and wonder is this an age thing but some of the comments in this thread are sickening. It makes you wonder if these are the kind of fans who would round on Sir Bobby. Yes Solskjaer failed. We were outplayed by teams regularly. He made lots of poor decisions. He was seriously flawed as a manager.
He tried his best though and the pain has been etched on his face with every disaster. No one is hurting more than he is and he has failed on his dream. Is this how we treat one of our own. I'm embarrassed for many United 'fans' who simply don't understand the club based on what I've read at times. This is all coming from someone who thought he should have been replaced after Liverpool too.
There is no such thing as a participation trophy. Also what makes you think that the other managers couldn't care less about the EPL title? The minimum expectations were always top 4Yeah but the previous managers won trophies by sacrificing the league completely. Ole got us to semis and finals by trying to win every match, which ended up being his downfall, as we were knackered in those semis and finals.
Anyway there are plenty of threads around that are dedicated to denigrating Ole, why do you need to be in here arguing with those of us who think he did alright up until this season?
Were you still hopeful in the past month or so?Fantastic post indeed. I agree with every single word of yours. Especially the part he's failed his dream. It must hurt a lot.
I still remember how it was by the end of Jose. Like all hope was lost, lot of talks we'd be shit forever regardless of who'd be next. Now at least we all agree that a good manager would make us tick again. There's still hope.
I'll always appreciate and thank him for what he's done here. Many bad moments but also lot of good moments the last two and a half years. He's always one of our own.
Not sure I agree with that. Even those of us who stuck with Ole the longest had gone by the City game. It was frankly cruel to drag him through yesterday as well, he was broken.They were just "backing the manager" tbf. It's what people have been asking them to do for years. They really went right to the cliff edge with this one.
Put Moyes instead of Ole in the last 2 years with the same results, same spending prowess and answer me honestly would you consider him an utter failure?Yeah but the previous managers won trophies by sacrificing the league completely. Ole got us to semis and finals by trying to win every match, which ended up being his downfall, as we were knackered in those semis and finals.
Anyway there are plenty of threads around that are dedicated to denigrating Ole, why do you need to be in here arguing with those of us who think he did alright up until this season?
The last sentence pretty much encapsulate your thoughtsFantastic post indeed. I agree with every single word of yours. Especially the part he's failed his dream. It must hurt a lot.
I still remember how it was by the end of Jose. Like all hope was lost, lot of talks we'd be shit forever regardless of who'd be next. Now at least we all agree that a good manager would make us tick again. There's still hope.
I'll always appreciate and thank him for what he's done here. Many bad moments but also lot of good moments the last two and a half years. He's always one of our own.
His achievements aren't tangible or memorable in comparison to his failures, in the end its the failures that'll be remembered.Yeah but the previous managers won trophies by sacrificing the league completely. Ole got us to semis and finals by trying to win every match, which ended up being his downfall, as we were knackered in those semis and finals.
Anyway there are plenty of threads around that are dedicated to denigrating Ole, why do you need to be in here arguing with those of us who think he did alright up until this season?
He got one significant semi and one final? And a couple league cup semis. We had a simple run in the FA cup in 19/20 and got knocked out by Chelsea - funnily the first good team we faced. Our EL run was even easier and we lost to a shitty Villareal with a significantly better team. We need to stop rewriting history. Our football was non-existent and we relied on luck to win a lot of our games. It's no surprise that once that luck ran out literally every team could beat us with ease. This was a nightmare and its come to an end.Yeah but the previous managers won trophies by sacrificing the league completely. Ole got us to semis and finals by trying to win every match, which ended up being his downfall, as we were knackered in those semis and finals.
Anyway there are plenty of threads around that are dedicated to denigrating Ole, why do you need to be in here arguing with those of us who think he did alright up until this season?
Yeah it would be funny if it wasn’t worrying when I read his last terrible run was a “first blip”Already being re-written as something that only turned sour in last two months. What bollocks
Why do people keep pointing this out? We are 12 points off the top after just 12 games having spent 400mn under him, the squad is very imbalanced, his big money signings like maguire and awb are going to need a lot of coaching from the next manager to be of use. We are going to most likely lose pogba and cavani, ronaldo will be a year older and we will once again need a mini rebuild from the next manager next season. How exactly is this a steadied ship?Glad someone made this thread. Ole came in, steadied the ship, showed nothing but grace and love for our club and in the end, held on a little too long to his dream job.
He's still a legend in every sense for me, and he should always get an amazing welcome at OT.
Yeah shame for him but it'll take him years to live down that 5-0 across football generallyThe way he was universally mocked by all but United fans across the globe might haunt him for a while.
Is anyone here complaining about his playing days? What is this need of some fans to pat themselves on the back for being a supposedly superior fan because they are accepting of mediocrity and nepotism while others are not. He can be a great player who will always be remembered as being a key part of one of utd's greatest wins while also being a woefully incompetent manager who should never have been given this job. Those aren't mutually exclusive.Didn't think this thread would go down well with the plastic Diddums fan club.
Ole will forever be a club legend no matter what. His name will still be sang in 20 years time on the stretty even if it's just for his playing days.
Probably something to do with the year on year progress of going from 6th to 3rd to 2nd prior to this season. Probably something to do with leaving a nucleus of good players, Maguire and Varane will be a good pairing when we put a proper goalkeeper behind them, AWB and Shaw are way out of form but have shown enough that say that is a good back four. McTominay came on leaps and bounds - granted he has regressed massively this season but he should be a good squad player for us in midfield, Fernandes coming in obviously speaks for itself and you would hope we will now see more from DVB as everybody knows the potential he has. I do appreciate we definitely need a couple of players in midfield though. As a front 3 the potential in Sancho/Greenwood/Rashford is fecking obscene and that's with Ronaldo and Cavani for them to feed off. So yeah, the ship was steadied and we don't need a massive rebuild to compete.Why do people keep pointing this out? We are 12 points off the top after just 12 games having spent 400mn under him, the squad is very imbalanced, his big money signings like maguire and awb are going to need a lot of coaching from the next manager to be of use. We are going to most likely lose pogba and cavani, ronaldo will be a year older and we will once again need a mini rebuild from the next manager next season. How exactly is this a steadied ship?
He was getting mocked by fans of every club. His name was being chanted by Arsenal and Liverpool fans at Anfield. I've never seen anything like it.The way he was universally mocked by all but United fans across the globe might haunt him for a while.
I think its the knock-out stage 3-1 rather than group game but I do agree the constant going on about that game is really bizarre and small time. It's not like it led to anything, we went out with a whimper in the next round and the league season died after it too. We didnt even play that well, they gifted us 2 goals through mistakes then a stupid handball at the death, they bottled it and we look back on it like its the best thing associated with the club in the past 8 years.I keep seeing "Thank you for Paris"
What the hell is wrong people. Where are your standards? You're supposed to be thankful to a manager that wins one away group game in the CL. Really? PSG weren't even a CL favorite back then, they couldn't even win L1. If that is one of your accomplishments managing United for 3 you're an utter failure. It's pathetic.
