What? I'd rather we took our time and get a world class manager. There's nothing stupid about that at all.Terrible decision of looking to appoint only an interim to the end of the season.
We needed a permanent manager now who would decide on the summer in-comings (and also convince Ronaldo and Pogba to stay). This is basically throwing this season away + damaging the 22/23 one.
What a stupid club.
They are winners and not part of nostalgia FC.Ronaldo hasn’t posted anything about Ole on his socials & he seems to be the only senior player (alongside Cavani?) not to do one yet…
I think we wasted three years on a manager who should've never been appointed in the first place. An example of progress in the modern game is what Tuchel has done with Chelsea with the same squad he inherited. Another example is Conte winning his first PL title with Chelsea on his first try. The club waited too long to pull the trigger for sentimental reasons. We're never going to replicate Fergie's era and that's clearly what they hoped with the so called cultural reboot under Solskjaer.The squad is far far better, off the field we are far far better. Couldnt care less for your Jose comparisons that guy was an absolute drain on us financially and mentally. He took us to a dark dead end. There’s no huge rebuild required now. Just need to get the right man in to take us forward. We’ve every reason to be optimistic and don’t need to wait 6 transfer windows to get the squad anything like how it should be. If you don’t agree with that, then that’s up to you but personally think we are miles better off.
Who put Ed there in the first place? Who kept him there for so long even when the club was nowhere near a real challenge for either the PL or the UCL? When you have the money, want titles (alongside more money) and doesn't know feck about something then appoint someone who does. That's how it works. Someone with a plan, not buzz words. It has to start from the top, not the other way around. Truth is they don't want a manager who could rock their boat (especially after Mourinho) and top 4 is more than enough for them, not titles. Which isn't the case for any club of your stature or any well run club for that matter. They see MU only as a brand and don't give a shit about football, hence the stadium leaking, Woodward, marquee signings, players who have no business at the club still around, and OGS overstaying his welcome by about 2 seasons.I never thought I’d find myself defending the Glazers. But you can’t have it every way. Ole was popular with the fan base. Once he went on his run(s), hubris and nostalgia and simply optimism set in. Rio and G Nev weren’t alone. Most of the Caf were delighted too. As was I. Both appointment and extension were popular moves.
I know you are saying he should have gone sooner. But there was that narrative: ‘give him time’. SAF needed four years or whatever, there was a gradual points/league position improvement. And he’s apparently a really sound, genuine guy. I have long had doubts, but I’d say the hesitation was understandable. Maybe the great and good in the club were asking for a grace period.
I’d put some blame at Woodward’s door. Joel knows he knows feck all about football. But the other clown thinks he’s an expert. Hence marquee signings, not supporting managers, etc.
You can accuse them of many things. Taking money from the club. Keeping football people/fans off board. Overly commercial boardroom setup at expense of football (as you say). . . Not fixing stadium. Keeping on Woodie, would all be problems caused by owners.
But OGS? We all have to shoulder some of the praise and blame for that one.
I think he and the rest of the coaching team are living on borrowed time here. A new manager is going to want to bring his own guys and i cant see any reason why the club should keep Carrick, McKenna and Phelan on boardCarrick surviving better than solskjaer. Part of 2 failed regimes now and is temporary boss.
The club statement re interim manager being sought would suggest there's a real target for summer
Good to see the majority talking sense but posts like this - "couldn't bare to see his face" embarrassingParty time. He was backed more than any Utd manager in history, and everything he touched turned to crap. He was despicable by the end. I couldn't bare to see his face.
The countless humiliations, mocked by the whole country, alienating all of the squad players by promising game time so they don't leave then refusing to give a single chance, refusal to change anything, chasing Sancho for 2 years then had no clue how to use him, McFred, instantly giving Maguire the captaincy...
3 years on, he's left us in an even worse position than when he came in, with nothing to show for it at all. I wouldn't wish his management on my worst enemy. Absolutely horrific manager.
If we lose to Villarreal and end up in the Europa, and the inevitable defeat to Chelsea putting us around 10 pts off 4th, he'll have left us in exactly the same position he took over with zero trophies to show for it and half a dozen players on the verge of leaving.A legend of the club who leaves us in a MUCH better state than previous managers and whose time will be appreciated more when we look back in a few years’ time.
Nobody is saying this season has been good enough or that he deserved more time, it was time for a change.If we lose to Villarreal and end up in the Europa, and the inevitable defeat to Chelsea putting us around 10 pts off 4th, he'll have left us in exactly the same position he took over with zero trophies to show for it and half a dozen players on the verge of leaving.
None of that gives Ronaldo the right to decide we aren't good enoughEven at our first games before Ronaldo we were awful. He had two full years to show that he can challenge, but he bottled it Vs Sevilla, Leipzig, Villarreal and Everton I think many players lost their belief in him during the final when he decided to sub no one. That was an awful bad management.
And expected.November 2020:
Manchester United: Ole
Real Madrid: Zidane
Chelsea: Lampard
Juventus: Pirlo
Barca: Koeman
Five top European teams were managed by former legends.
November 2021: all gone, with 4 of them failing. That's very unfortunate.
To be fair, when he took over we were sixth and qualified for the KO of UCL. So by any metric, we are worse this season than in Mourinho’s disaster season.If we lose to Villarreal and end up in the Europa, and the inevitable defeat to Chelsea putting us around 10 pts off 4th, he'll have left us in exactly the same position he took over with zero trophies to show for it and half a dozen players on the verge of leaving.
To be fair, when he took over we were sixth and qualified for the KO of UCL. So by any metric, we are worse this season than in Mourinho’s disaster season.
We were sixth in the table, which is better than now.We were sinking like a rock and just been embarrassed at home by PSG in the first leg
And we must keep that. That's why we need to start winning big titles.On a completely random note, earlier I was tuning in to the evening news on the biggest news channel here in Indonesia and Ole leaving made the headline. The reach we have as a football club is absolutely staggering.
Wtf are you on about . OGS came in December and we got embarrassed by PSG at home with him in charge .We were sinking like a rock and just been embarrassed at home by PSG in the first leg
We were sixth in the table, which is better than now.
We got embarrassed by PSG at home under Ole’s spell. That was in February. Ole took charge in December, so it was 2 months and 15 or so matches under Ole’s spell.
Wtf are you on about . OGS came in December and we got embarrassed by PSG at home with him in charge .
Then Barcelona embarrassed us again in both legs. It's fine being confused but being two months out is a bit much.
And guess what..we're not now either.Ok we were certainly not in good shape in any shape or form at the time Jose was sacked no matter how much people try and twist it.
And guess what..we're not now either.
Guess what, too, when Mourinho was sacked, a lot of people were thinking his squad is good and he was the one holding them back. People were thinking a new manager will unlock Pogba, Lukaku, Rashford and Martial into a great team. Honeymoon period confirmed that too for a lot of people. The opinion only changed after the dramatic collapse of form at the end of this season.No but we have a better squad I feel for a better manager to make use of
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We were singing Ole's on the dole.Thick smooth brained cnuts not got the memo
Like the majority of your fans then?People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We were singing Ole's on the dole.
This is what I heard too.People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We were singing Ole's on the dole.