Ole’s farewell interview

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Honestly the people embarrassed by this interview, I imagine them as school kids embarrassed by the shoes their mam’s made them wear to school. Grow up. Stop viewing everything through the eyes of opposition fans, scared what they might say to you on your lunch break. :lol:

It’s a farewell message from an honest guy and club legend who has a great connection to the fans and always has.

Simple gesture really. He’s still on good terms with the club and he doesn’t want to do any interviews and have his words twisted by the media, he makes that clear.

He did the interview out of choice, to sign off on his own message to the fans, the majority appreciate it and think it’s an appropriate send off.
 

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He's certainly been brilliant at saying just what the fans want to hear in his 3 years. He's got grown men crying and top reds offering to fight 'plastics' in this thread alone.

Club PR have played a blinder again. Instead of people questioning how the board came to give such a mediocre manager 2(!) contracts everyone is now acting like he was giving up his time for free, and you'd think he'd pulled the club out of its darkest time since Munich to read some of the revisionism (just as a reminder we finished 2nd just 6 months before he was appointed...)

The cult of personality has become all consuming and were it any other club we'd be pissing ourselves.
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I have a crazy theory for you, it's actually possible to have those opinions about his time here, while still not being a never-ending pit of whinge in this thread.
 

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Firstly, nobody wanted him to stay, even the most ardent stubborn Ole supporters agreed it was time to change by a few weeks ago.

And as for "dividing the fanbase" the only people at fault for that are the bellends that sit in their little armchairs slating the people that follow the team all over the country (and Europe) for singing him name & saying that they are the ones who don't care about the club, as if they spend hundreds or thousands of pounds a year following the team for no reason.
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So everyone is in agreement that he had to go and now that he's gone people are bellends for not being sad about it? Are those the same fans you're talking about that gave Ole and his team abuse almost to a man like I've never seen before after the Watford game? Double standards much?
 

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Forevergiggs1 said:
So everyone is in agreement that he had to go and now that he's gone people are bellends for not being sad about it? Are those the same fans you're talking about that gave Ole and his team abuse almost to a man like I've never seen before after the Watford game? Double standards much?
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Gone time to move on!!! yes it’s a nice touch but still doesn’t account for the mess he has left this club in.. no direction players on huge contracts kinda Feels like another rebuild is needed AGAIN
 

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Let’s get over this Jones myth. When he was given his contract he was in the United 1st team picture, and part of the England squad. He is an experienced player who has won the PL, FA cup and a the EL. Why wouldn’t he be given a contract extension then?
His career threatening injury which has kept him out for 18 months, occurred after his contract extension and he’s been fighting to get back to fitness ever since.
give the lad a break, I’m sure that once he proves his fitness he will either be moved on or perhaps become a utility man at United like OShea
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Because he was shit even when healthy. He gradually got worse while being at United when he should've become better and better. Whenever I used to see him in first eleven I was sure he's about to do something stupid, and most of the time he did exactly that.

I have great sympathy for him because of health problems, wouldn't wish anyone problems he had and still have, for that I'm really sorry and hope he recovers enough to continue playing but also hope that will be with someone else not United since we're already full of average, mistake in waiting CBs.

He'll never become anything like O'Shea was for United, that's just wishful thinking, he's lost too many years at sidelines and also, as I've already said, he never fulfilled talent he had (he really did look special, but so did many others).
 

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Forevergiggs1 said:
So everyone is in agreement that he had to go and now that he's gone people are bellends for not being sad about it? Are those the same fans you're talking about that gave Ole and his team abuse almost to a man like I've never seen before after the Watford game? Double standards much?
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Way to read a post and completely misunderstand it.
 

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Why the hell should someone like Jose have had an interview like that? And why should the club even entertain the idea? Was the heritage speech not enough?

Still if he was even close to being a club legend (either as player or manager) he could have had one if he wanted.

Even Roman made an exception for Lampard. He left a farewell message for him and had not done this for the previous managers despite them being much more successful than Lampard.

I have absolutely no idea why those people who find almost everything United does annoying or cringe even bother supporting the club.
 

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Honestly the people embarrassed by this interview, I imagine them as school kids embarrassed by the shoes their mam’s made them wear to school. Grow up. Stop viewing everything through the eyes of opposition fans, scared what they might say to you on your lunch break. :lol:

It’s a farewell message from an honest guy and club legend who has a great connection to the fans and always has.

Simple gesture really. He’s still on good terms with the club and he doesn’t want to do any interviews and have his words twisted by the media, he makes that clear.

He did the interview out of choice, to sign off on his own message to the fans, the majority appreciate it and think it’s an appropriate send off.
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You're a bit confused, we think it's embarrassing for him and the club we're not personally embarrassed. Cool mr reasonable shtick though 9/10.

Personally i think it's those who try use this forum to inflate their already self inflated opinion of themselves by pretending everyone else is unreasonable that need to grow up but who knows. I thought the Ole experience might have shaken that out of some by now.
 

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You never now, these guys might believe Camera man and production guys are in charge of recruiting football managers.
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It wouldn't surprise me with some of the shite they've spewed in this thread.
 

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I disagree. We've had systemic defensive failure for well over a year now - that is not down to individual mistakes.
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Both of those statements can be true at the same time, as it is the case here.

Sure, individual brilliance is what ultimately wins you matches, but it has to be accompanied by a system where every player that knows exactly what the manager wants them to do, otherwise we don't have control of our games thus we are more likely to make mistakes.
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If individual brilliance is all that it needs then why the feck do clubs spend so much money in salaries to get the very best managers? In such scenario Liverpool should have hired Gerrard, we should have stuck to Ole while City should have hired Goater. The reality is very different to what you suggest. Coaching and tactics are important. A well drilled team doesn't need so many bodies at the back to close every gap and players wouldn't need to run like headless chickens to win the ball.
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I especially love this line of argument given that it effectively slaps itself in the face.

That we win and lose due to individual brilliance and mistakes respectively, and let's presume that we do for a moment, fully ties into the idea that we lack excellence in the collective/setup.
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I'm not arguing about individual brilliance or mistakes. Or wrong or right tactical setup. There have been lot of those through seasons.

My point is about agenda of people who wanted him out. People that never gave him chance from start and abused him and called him undeserved names. People that used individual brilliance as reasons when we won but when we lost it was all on Solskjaer and the staff. I remember writing long ago that he can never win whatever the results were because some people decided to hate him.

So when you talk about individual brilliance when we win, talk about individual mistakes when we lose. If you give manager criticism when we lose, give manager credit when we win.
 

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I have never met Ole, but he does seem like a genuinely nice guy.

However, in my opinion that farewell interview was an absolute car crash. It was the ultimate act in manipulation, Ole by the board and the fans by Ole. Ultimately Ole has left in disgrace. He was not good enough and must have known he was not good enough and instead of being honest about that and walking (an act that would have won him enduring respect) he stayed on, made it about himself and was eventually sacked.

Jose was the ultimate narcissist, everything was about him, but by staying on whilst the club was being turned into a laughing stock how has Ole's behaviour been any different? This situation could have been avoided, but as brutal as it sounds Ole made his bed and I am not sorry or him. Would loved to have seen some of that emotion whilst we were being thrashed 5-0 by Liverpool.
 

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My point is about agenda of people who wanted him out. People that never gave him chance from start and abused him and called him undeserved names. People that used individual brilliance as reasons when we won but when we lost it was all on Solskjaer and the staff. I remember writing long ago that he can never win whatever the results were because some people decided to hate him.
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What are you on about?! Ole started with more goodwill than any manager we've ever had!
 

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Because he was shit even when healthy. He gradually got worse while being at United when he should've become better and better. Whenever I used to see him in first eleven I was sure he's about to do something stupid, and most of the time he did exactly that.

I have great sympathy for him because of health problems, wouldn't wish anyone problems he had and still have, for that I'm really sorry and hope he recovers enough to continue playing but also hope that will be with someone else not United since we're already full of average, mistake in waiting CBs.

He'll never become anything like O'Shea was for United, that's just wishful thinking, he's lost too many years at sidelines and also, as I've already said, he never fulfilled talent he had (he really did look special, but so did many others).
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Even if he was not good enough for United you’d still renew the contract of a 27 year old and sell him after. He would have fetched 20m
Those saying he should have just been released aren’t living in reality
 

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After giving it his all and giving us hope, it's sad to see Ole's reign end this way.

He's divided us fans has Ole, but he's always spoken well and carried himself with the utmost professionalism and dignity. He's tried to install a new mentality around the squad, made positive moves in the transfer market in both incomings and outgoings.

He's the only manager since Fergie that seemed to have an idea of what we needed to aim for to achieve long term success.

Ole had a broken, disjointed and frankly unmotivated squad that consisted of 4 previous managers players, each manager having very different styles. What a mess we were when Ole took us over.

He's left us in a better place for success than any of Moyes, LVG and Jose.

It's a shame it's ended this way but ultimately the players stopped playing for him. It doesn't matter who you are but when the players stop listening and make little effort it's time for a change. Maybe Ole wasn't the man long term - but people forget he's had his moments. He's beaten Pep, Klopp. He's worked under our current structure of Woodward and co which is pretty much suicide.
 

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What are you on about?! Ole started with more goodwill than any manager we've ever had!
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You haven't been reading that well. From start we had people here complaining why we let Mourinho go for some (insert rude name).

Ofcourse not all as you understand but there were people in here.
 

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Its like he never left. He has been very involved with the club. So I dont even see this as a farewell, not sad, life goes on. We will probably see him in the stands soon.
 

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I'm not arguing about individual brilliance or mistakes. Or wrong or right tactical setup. There have been lot of those through seasons.

My point is about agenda of people who wanted him out. People that never gave him chance from start and abused him and called him undeserved names. People that used individual brilliance as reasons when we won but when we lost it was all on Solskjaer and the staff. I remember writing long ago that he can never win whatever the results were because some people decided to hate him.

So when you talk about individual brilliance when we win, talk about individual mistakes when we lose. If you give manager criticism when we lose, give manager credit when we win.
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What in shitting crikey are you talking about!?

Ole was clapped off the pitch after being stuffed 0-5 by Liverpool at OT, and then greeted by happy fans outside the stadium!

His treatment during his era has been (and continues to be) VERY gentle.

I wish him well, I really do - but he’s been treated like a competition winner who everyone should be nice to, rather than the guy who’s actually responsible for Utd becoming a laughing stock.
 

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90 + 5min said:
You haven't been reading that well. From start we had people here complaining why we let Mourinho go for some (insert rude name).

Ofcourse not all as you understand but there were people in here.
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It's nothing to do with my reading, it's your argument that doesn't make sense. You are talking about people having an agenda about him right from the start. I am countering that by saying no United manager has ever come into the job (or been sacked from a job) with so much goodwill from the fans. Do you disagree?
 

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This.

This (interview) was all a little dramatic to me. Ole is certainly a club legend, and we all love him, for good reasons.

BUT.. he is but one of many, many, many club legends, and I don't recall this weeping and wailing when considering so many other players we have been fortunate enough to have blessed a United shirt. Personally, Ole doesn't mean more to me than a Remi Moses, Whiteside, or a Mickey Thomas (yes, I'm that old...) who inspired my love for this club.. one of the problems has been this almost odd fascination with Ole' as a nice guy, like he needed help... he's young, fabulously wealthy, and will always be welcomed at one of the greatest sporting institutions on the planet.

This interview shows why he was never a permanent appointment. All emotion, and no strategy.
 

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You're a bit confused, we think it's embarrassing for him and the club we're not personally embarrassed. Cool mr reasonable shtick though 9/10.

Personally i think it's those who try use this forum to inflate their already self inflated opinion of themselves by pretending everyone else is unreasonable that need to grow up but who knows. I thought the Ole experience might have shaken that out of some by now.
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Nah not one bit pal. It's the same ones who were 'embarrassed' by the opposition fans singing his song no doubt, frustrated they might get a bit of stick from their opposition supporting mates at the pub no doubt.

It's hardly unreasonable to defend a club legends choice to man up and address the clubs fans immediately after being dismissed, I wouldn't expect 99% of managers to do that, most would take their pay-off and sneak off through the back door like Mourinho. What's more embarrassing, fronting up or sneaking off, I would expect that to be obvious.
 

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Some of the reactions in this thread are pathetic. I've been Ole out for a while, he wasn't going to win us anything and was tactically limited, but don't forget where he took us from. The dross we saw under the 3 managers before his was horrible, during the Ole era i was always entertained and the team did improve. That deserves some respect. It's all gone extra wrong this season, but he earnt the opportunity.
 

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Way to read a post and completely misunderstand it.
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Dont think i am misunderstanding. My take is it's the PR being spouted by the club for the last 3 years that has divided the fanbase. Your take is it's "bellend" fans calling out the "true" supporter for not calling out the club which has divided the fanbase which all changed on Saturday when those " true" supporters gave Ole and his team a lot more abuse than any of us on here. Hence my double standards. comment.
 

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Nah just using sarcasm to highlight how silly your post was mate.
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The only thing silly is the fawning going on and unnecessary focus on unimportant things. But since you are on that very side it will be difficult for you to comprehend.
 

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Every single word uttered and written by anyone connected to the club since the sacking was announced will have been vetted and approved beforehand, in an attempt to control the narrative. It may well have been Ole's idea (although I personally doubt that, in spite of what he says in the video), and I'm not for one minute saying that he's not completely genuine in his words and emotions, but to see it as anything other than club PR in terms of its primary reason for existing is naive.
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Yeah when reality doesn't fit in with your agenda just choose to believe something else that does and base your opinions around that.

Do the club vet the content they put out on social media? Yeah of course they do every club does (or should). Are the clubs PR department using it as positive PR? Er, yeah that's their job.
 

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Dont think i am misunderstanding. My take is it's the PR being spouted by the club for the last 3 years that has divided the fanbase. Your take is it's "bellend" fans calling out the "true" supporter for not calling out the club which has divided the fanbase which all changed on Saturday when those " true" supporters gave Ole and his team a lot more abuse than any of us on here. Hence my double standards. comment.
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I never used the word "true" and never would. I don't care where supporters are from or whether they go to go games or not frankly. I've also said nothing about those people, either at the game or in their houses, slating the team and manager. But yes, I don't like people who do not go to games suggesting that those who do follow the team all over are the ones who "don't care about the club", because they certainly do care, otherwise they wouldn't continue to spend their hard earned money going.
 

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Yeah when reality doesn't fit in with your agenda just choose to believe something else that does and base your opinions around that.

Do the club vet the content they put out on social media? Yeah of course they do every club does (or should). Are the clubs PR department using it as positive PR? Er, yeah that's their job.
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I wouldn't take anything that is filtered through the club's PR team as gospel no. Well done for spotting that it is my opinion though, I am in the right place for sharing those opinions aren't I?
 

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Some of the reactions in this thread are pathetic. I've been Ole out for a while, he wasn't going to win us anything and was tactically limited, but don't forget where he took us from. The dross we saw under the 3 managers before his was horrible, during the Ole era i was always entertained and the team did improve. That deserves some respect. It's all gone extra wrong this season, but he earnt the opportunity.
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He did but many are determined to see that it's not remembered that way. It's all about removing any remote positive from his time here, even when the fanbase are unanimous that we need a change (after this season), that's not enough, let's keep kicking him whilst he's down.
 

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What in shitting crikey are you talking about!?

Ole was clapped off the pitch after being stuffed 0-5 by Liverpool at OT, and then greeted by happy fans outside the stadium!

His treatment during his era has been (and continues to be) VERY gentle.

I wish him well, I really do - but he’s been treated like a competition winner who everyone should be nice to, rather than the guy who’s actually responsible for Utd becoming a laughing stock.
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Gentle? Have you not seen what have been written here? There was and still is difference between matchgoing fans and fans in here. I thought everybody knew that. I agree that you don't have to clap and greet when you lose in that way we lost against Liverpool.

The bold part. You can't be serious?

Rusholme Ruffian said:
It's nothing to do with my reading, it's your argument that doesn't make sense. You are talking about people having an agenda about him right from the start. I am countering that by saying no United manager has ever come into the job (or been sacked from a job) with so much goodwill from the fans. Do you disagree?
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Ofcourse he started on a positive note. More than any other manager. That is because of his history with us.

But there were still people who never gave him any chance and were against him from start.
 

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Do we get an "our sacked manager gave an interview" trophy?

Club has become a laughing stock and as long as the fans keep getting behind this mawkish cultism, we will stay there. There's just no ruthless and fresh way of working. It's all "we're united and we used to be good and have legends" nonsense these days. This interview is just an extension of that. The only relief is we don't have to see Maguire's comical performances next match day.
 

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That's now, I was replying to the clown who said there had been no signs of progress in 3 years because unless you have your head firmly inside your arse, there was definite progress up until this season.
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Agreed, that's not deniable
 

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I really liked that he gave the interview, I'd actually love to see more managers do this tbh.

It comes across as very honest and gives a connection to the fans, even if some of the sentiments were your usual post match type interview stuff.

The club means everything to him, anyone can see that. I was fully supportive of him up to the Leicester result, at that point I felt things were beyond fixing. Pity our board didn't see it that way. He really should of went at the City result giving us time to find a replacement and the lads can return to a new manager and start adapting.

I'd love to see him back at the club in a background role, I think he done brilliantly in building the squad, but knowing how to use that squad and apply sensible tactics was his downfall.
 

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Yes, but fewer than any other manager we've ever had - so what's your point again?
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If you followed from start you would see that the point was that he never got chance from some and people blamed him for every lost game but never got credit when we won. They constantly undervalued his performence as a manager and called him all kind of names. Everything with one agenda. To make him look bad in every way.
 
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