A five year contract to a player who at that time had also had a lot of injuries though? Doesnt make sense to give one that long. Wasnt as if he was Stam/Vidic even Bruce class either.
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But I take your point, should have been a 3+1
remember that the 1 is only an option, it doesn’t have to be exercised
It has to be some sort of a record, surely? For an outfield player, keepers are different.
I’d rather have Jones in case of emergency than a youth player. Chucking Mengi on against Chelsea is enormous pressure for him, whereas at least Jones has the experience.
Ideally it won’t matter because Lindelof and Bailly play the full 90.
Ideally it won’t matter because Lindelof and Bailly play the full 90.
Always potential for a bailly red card
224 appearances 6 goals and 3 major trophies.
Whether he should still be here or not is a fair question. But he certainly hasn't contributed nothing to the club in his 10 years here. He's currently 5th choice CB and is probably likely to leave at some point in the near future Injuries have ravaged what was potentially a excellent career but he's never sulked or shirked and when he plays he gives everything, and battling back after so many injuries and so much time out takes a lot of character it would of been very easier for him to give it all up.
He probably shouldn't still be here, but he is and he's available to play and likely to be named on the bench while our two first choice cbs are out. Nothing wrong with that.
He was fit and playing semi regular when he signed his last contract, since then he has had a major injury and been out for a long time at what point were we meant to get rid? Try selling a player with a serious injury? Or cancelling the contract of player trying to fight back to fitness? We probably don't have legal grounds to do that unless it was a career ending injury. Which it obviously wasn't.
The entitlement is unbelievable sometimes, is he good enough to be a starting cb at a club like ours? No, but that's why hes fifth choice find me a 5th choice CB at a similar level club that is good enough to start?
Well that's a comment for the hyper-normalisation thread.
Ok, not absolute. Relatively speaking then, it absolutely is. Like I said he is one of our lowest earners. For a Man United player it is feck all. Cavani makes 4 times that and is just as injury prone as Jones was at the time of Jones' renewal.
Anyway I'm so done with the negativity in this thread. Captain hindsight everywhere, and pretending like Jones was a championship player at the time of his renewal.
Think of it this way: Injury prone England international contracted for the duration of his prime (26-30) as one the lowest earners at the club.
I'd give Tyrone Mings or Ben White the same contract any day of the week, even with Jones' injury record.
I agree 75k isn't a huge amount in the grand scheme of the expenditure ofan
I don't really understand why people get so worked up over Jones. He's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully he's properly back on the mend and he can finish off his career playing regularly somewhere.
No other top club would still have Jones at their club. I appreciate that he's had very bad injuries but that doesn't mean the club should still keep him on because they feel sorry for him.
Jog on captain empathy
for context: he’s in contract when he got that bad injury that’s kept him out for 18 months. He got it playing for United.
there is no legal ground to rip up his contract, we wouldn’t do it to any other player so we won’t do it for Jones and no other club is going to buy or loan a player who isn’t yet fully fit after the injury he’s come back from
so, with respect you just posted a lot of bollox
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Chelsea had Van Ginkel on their books for multiple years while he had 3 knee surgeries.
You either don't think Chelsea is a top club or you don't understand contracts.
I suspect the latter
All I'm gonna say is Jones' contract is 75k, which translates to £3.9m a year so it's costing us a lot less to have him as our 5th choice CB than it would be to actually go out and sign one.
I imagine this is how the board thought when they renewed his contract last year.
I imagine this is how the board thought when they renewed his contract last year.
Average weekly PL wage is between £50-60k. He's not on peanuts.
I understand like some have said that it makes some sort of financial sense to keep him around and it's not his fault he's struggled with injuries but he's not on a terrible wage.
The contract extension was ill-advised, but here we are now. Lindelof and Bailly to start today but if we need to bring on Jones, due to an i jury to Bailly or whatever, so be it.
Problem is he’s injured so much he’s not even available enough to be 5th choice.
A fair point
Will love to see big Phil get some minutes in the final group game. Been a long road back for him.
Looked good today ,.................... sat next to Ronaldo
Happy for him that he made the bench. Some minutes vs Bern would be a great feel good moment
It's weird. I dreamt of him yesterday.
He's the most likeable defender of the decade.
https://www.sportbible.com/football...want-to-sign-phil-jones-from-man-utd-20211108
first on the team sheet for the young boys game (IF he can play champions league - not sure he’s registered)
He can’t
He's not
Ralf said he'd play him if he was registered. Such a Phil Jones thing that he can't even play when fit because the club didn't register him thinking the guy will never be fit.
3rd round of the FA Cup will be his next and last game depending if 1. he stays fits and 2. we draw a league 2 side at Old Trafford.
If, huuuuuuge if, he would force himself into our starting 11, would it be the greatest comeback ever?
He really should grow a beard or something and we should package it.
"The second coming".
That’s bad news for him, since we never draw anyone lower than a mid-table Premier League in the FA Cup
If this guy isn't gone in January, it's obvious that Jones owns MUFC
Aston bloody Villa
Will be injured when his testimonial comes around.
Joel Glazers love child
A very strange bump to a thread that hasn’t been discussed for a week…..
Having a good season
Not really.
Having seen the Martial news and also other players being discussed about leaving, Phil shouldn't escape under the radar.
Makes zero sense he should remain after January. The club need to get a spine and become rufless.
Seemed like a thought popped into your head which you felt necessary to share fella. That’s all.
I fully expect Phil to leave, at least on loan, in Jan. He’s been linked with a few PL teams and loads of championship sides so unless Ralf has plans for him I don’t think you need to worry!
In fairness to the poster, we've been saying the same thing for ages and yet Phil signs another contract. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he sticks around now is it?
Presumably it’s down to the manager. Ole seemed to have a plan for Phil, which seemed to include getting back to fitness and a Jan exit. Hopefully Ralf agrees with that.
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