Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch

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They're both woefully mediocre coaches that have no business managing/managed their respective clubs, but I feel Arteta's roles as Pep's assistant coupled to Arsenal's FA Cup triumph in his first season grossly inflated his stock. He's a nothing manager tbh.
I think they are hoping he is going to turn into a new Pep. They also have a young director of football in Edu.

The narrative seems to be that these young guys with new ideas and promoting youth will get them back to the top in due time.
 

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I think they are hoping he is going to turn into a new Pep. They also have a young director of football in Edu.

The narrative seems to be that these young guys with new ideas and promoting youth will get them back to the top in due time.
I think this is the plan. Youngest Manager. Youngest Technical Director. Youngest playing squad. We spent £140 on six players over the Summer, five of which started at Old Trafford. (Plus, Lokonga should have played instead of El Neny - but that’s a whole different grievance I have.) All our signings were 23 or younger.

I can see the logic. Grealish was £100m, we simply can’t compete with that head on. And though we splashed the most cash, every single one of those players would fetch more than we paid for them if we decided to sell in January. (EDIT - Possibly not Odegaard, actually.) So it certainly beats signings like Willian.

The big risk is a repeat of our last project youth with Wenger. Players leave one by one for more money/trophies elsewhere and it never comes together. I think we’ll get a little more time to make it work from the likes of Saka and Smith-Rowe as they have already been at the club for a decade. Our previous generation of academy players were often cherry-picked from other clubs at 16/17. We were their finishing school that polished them and got them ready for top-level senior football - but our latest crop our genuine Arsenal fans. That might buy us a season or two more of loyalty to make things work.

Xavi is playing a bunch of kids at Barca as well. I’m interested to see how both teams fare in the next few years.
 
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I think this is the plan. Youngest Manager. Youngest Technical Director. Youngest playing squad. We spent £140 on six players over the Summer, five of which started at Old Trafford. (Plus, Lokonga should have played instead of El Neny - but that’s a whole different grievance I have.) All our signings were 23 or younger.

I can see the logic. Grealish was £100m, we simply can’t compete with that head on. And though we splashed the most cash, every single one of those players would fetch more than we paid for them if we decided to sell in January. (EDIT - Possibly not Odegaard, actually.) So it certainly beats signings like Willian.

The big risk is a repeat of our last project youth with Wenger. Players leave one by one for more money/trophies elsewhere and it never comes together. I think we’ll get a little more time to make it work from the likes of Saka and Smith-Rowe as they have already been at the club for a decade. Our previous generation of academy players were often cherry-picked from other clubs at 16/17. We were their finishing school that polished them and got them ready for top-level senior football - but our latest crop our genuine Arsenal fans. That might buy us a season or two more of loyalty to make things work.

Xavi is playing a bunch of kids at Barca as well. I’m interested to see how both teams fare in the next few years.
Saka and Nketiah seem like they could be top talents in a few years's time. I look at them like I looked at Martial and Rashford five years ago.
 

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Sounds like they were time wasting after a goal up. That never really happened under Wenger did it? Some decline.

They just play once a week yet same old problems resurface.
 

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I’ve no idea how Arteta escapes any scrutiny. He spent £150m in the summer and he’s sitting behind two clubs who were so bad they had to sack their managers and West Ham.
 

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Carrick killed him. How do people come with a tripe that he is a good manager. Today was shocking from them. Absolute crap manager who sets his team play like a coward.

As a non arsenal fan I hope he stays with them forever and deluded fans continue to back him.
 

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On the BBC site someone texted in at 1-1 to say Arteta out and the guy doing the reporting said Behave.

As if it's daft for Arsenal fans to want him out.

Why? Why would that be daft?

He's finished 8th twice and is currently 7th behind us and Spurs. Two clubs that deemed their seasons as shit and sacked their managers!
 

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Another spineless performance. Plus the football is absolutely tragic.
 

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Carrick killed him. How do people come with a tripe that he is a good manager. Today was shocking from them. Absolute crap manager who sets his team play like a coward.

As a non arsenal fan I hope he stays with them forever and deluded fans continue to back him.
It's baffling how he keeps getting talked up every time they have a mini run.
 

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Do a section of arsenal fans want him sacked ? Or are all of them deluded ?
 

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Saka and Nketiah seem like they could be top talents in a few years's time. I look at them like I looked at Martial and Rashford five years ago.
I like Saka but he’s more in the Greenwood tier of needing a lot more game experience before being thrust in front for club and country. I don’t get how he seems to keep Sancho out of the starting line up in England.
 

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Need Arsenal to have another run of playing fodder and get some 1-0 wins in those games to convince everyone they've turned a corner again ;)
 

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Tim Cahill said Arteta knows why he lose games so I guess he knows why he lose games.
 

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Not that I agree with the knee-jerkism in this thread, but looking beyond the results, it's alarming to see how there's so much of the Stoke in how Arsenal play.
 

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Go on Arse Mania & have a look. A big section want him gone.
How can anyone back arteta at this point ? Its like the cult of ole here, but atleast ole was a legend at the club as a player. I could understand if vieira was the manager and serving up turd but arteta ?!?!

The likes of potter would be an upgrade on arteta and he'll jump at the opportunity.
 

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How can anyone back arteta at this point ? Its like the cult of ole here, but atleast ole was a legend at the club as a player. I could understand if vieira was the manager and serving up turd but arteta ?!?!

The likes of potter would be an upgrade on arteta and he'll jump at the opportunity.
Its not even a comparison. If Ole had us finishing 8th two years in a row and playing like how Arsenal are playing, I and most if not all of whom you call "Ole cult" would have wanted him out after the first year. And I was supporting Ole till the Liverpool game.
 

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I do think the majority of Arsenal fans want him gone. I just think like for Ole the media for some weird reason isn't criticising him enough and not putting enough pressure on him. It took a 5-0 loss to Liverpool for the media to pile on the pressure, I think it will take a similar result for Arsenal to do the same.

EDIT: I just realised they only lost 4-0 to Liverpool a few weeks ago, I forgot that over the last 4 seasons that's been the norm for Arsenal. I guess they're stuck with Arteta.
 
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He's so annoying in interviews how he never lets the interview finish the question before answering
 

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This is exactly my thoughts on it.
He is worse than Ole.. We have had some lows with Ole but had some highs too... his interim manager days , and the project restart days ..
Do they have anything to match that ? The FA cup maybe..
 

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I'm not on any arsenal forums, but all the fans I know from real life want him gone. I'm not sure this "they're deluded" thing applies. He's done and we all know it.
 

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I take back the positive things I said about him, mediocre manager. Still marginally less inept than Ole though IMO.
 

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I take back the positive things I said about him, mediocre manager. Still marginally less inept than Ole though IMO.
Yeah a manager finishing 6th, 3rd and 2nd is more inept than a manager finishing 8th and 8th and currently in 7th after spending the highest this season. Ole was poor this season but had he walked off at the end of last season, his record doesn't look too shabby. Arteta is far worse and gets a free pass because he put cones for Pep.
 

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His handling of Nketiah is bizarre. A player he clearly doesn't rate and is likely to leave on a free in the summer made the squad ahead of Balogun, a youngster Arsenal made a big effort to sign a new contract in the summer. Nketiah came on before Auba and Pepe didn't even come on.