I think the opposite he’s the best to say it. His team is in top form, no injuries, most of not all players have had COVID already and are double vaccinated, 5-6 players in the form of their lives, team performance is at an all time high, he has little to gain but a lot to lose of the break happens imo.
Guardiola talks strike
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
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No consideration for the fans again from Pep.
Must be so easy when he doesn’t have any to appease
It seems quite tone deaf to talk about "strikes" when you look at so many other industries that have had to carry on through way worse conditions, for way less money, doing far more critical jobs.
Yeah it's like him commenting on hair
Jesus punching air as we speak
We play Norwich who last played on the 14th at 3pm on the 26th, and then play Wolves at 12.30pm on the 28th who will have had 9 days off after their game this weekend got postponed.
As much as me as an armchair fan will like to watch games often, I don't think it's fair on the players.
As much as me as an armchair fan will like to watch games often, I don't think it's fair on the players.
Of Sao Paulo or Nazareth?
Oh poor fans..
This
I assume even the fans want to watch good quality football. You're not really going to get games of a really high standard if you force players to play through the exhaustion.
Or maybe you the end product would be more entertaining and less tactical who knows.
Pep- I think clubs should strike over this ridiculous schedule
Pep- We will never strike as the fans love the schedule.
I’m sure there’s sense somewhere in his ramblings today
Pep- We will never strike as the fans love the schedule.
I’m sure there’s sense somewhere in his ramblings today
Players in the 70’s and 80’s managed to play three times a week- literally fielding the same team every week! I’m sure clubs can manage with massive squads and youth teams t pick from! Squad management is all part and parcel of football
Manager of biggest and most expensive squad wants 5 subs or a strike. What a surprise...
Worst person you know makes a good point
Manager with a 100M third string left winger carrying the flag for the plight of the mid table manager and players. What a time to be alive!
What are the brain damage issues in nfl? Playing on after being knocked out?
Yes
He is 100% right. It seems people cannot look past money in any argument.
He's 100 percent right, it's unfair on the players.
He isn't only talking about City players here, he's talking about the league in general. The inability of people to think objectively when it comes to Pep or City is funny. Footballers are not machines.
I was watching a day in the life of professional footballers on youtube or somewhere and dont these cnuts "work" or train from like 8am to 1pm then home to relax for the day?
He's on 375k a week, not 200.
Awwww my heart bleeds for these multi millionaire footballers that have to somewhat work 90 mins a week And receive the best medical treatment there is on demand.
poor sods are really hard done to.
poor sods are really hard done to.
For me, it's not about the money the players are on, that doesn't mean their welfare should not be considered.
The problem for me is Guardiola who would actually have a competitive advantage for his request of 5 subs.
I don't think Pep is speaking about City here but all footballers so I don't get the hate. He's right too, since coming back from lockdown players have played pretty much non-stop. Its obviously not as big a problem at City or United with or £900m plus squads but its a major concern elsewhere. The players have been going non-stop and despite their wages the PL are running them into the ground.
Lets put this in perspective... with potential fixtures.
Lets look at Raheem Sterling -
The league resumed on the 17th of June 2020 after being closed. City played 14 games in that period, finished on August 15th.
The following season City played 62 competitive matches beginning on September 21st and ending May 29th.
The Euros England played 7 games. 83 and counting...
This season City have played 30 games already.. 113 games.
During that period England also played another 26 games between, qualifiers, friendlies and nations league. 139 games.
139 potential matches in 550 days...
So in the period of 17th June 2020 to 19 of December 2021, Raheem Sterling has had a potential match less than every 4 days (3.9 to be exact). City are in a luxurious position with regards to rotation but thats a hell of a lot of football.
Lets take a club worse off than City. West Ham and Declan Rice.
He has the same 33 potential international matches.
26 matches so far this season.
44 matches last season
9 post lockdown.
They also had a game postponed because of covid so could be 113.
So for Declan Rice he started back on the 20th finished on the 22nd (550 days as well). He has had a potential 112 matches in 550 days. So he gets a game every 4.9 days and whatever luxury City have with Sterling, West Ham don't have with Rice.
Can't have it both ways, we can't demand high level football and players are run into the ground, those two things are incompatible (ask Leeds fans). Someone like Jordan Henderson would have had as much football as Sterling potentially with the luxury of rotation and in his 30's.
Lets put this in perspective... with potential fixtures.
Lets look at Raheem Sterling -
The league resumed on the 17th of June 2020 after being closed. City played 14 games in that period, finished on August 15th.
The following season City played 62 competitive matches beginning on September 21st and ending May 29th.
The Euros England played 7 games. 83 and counting...
This season City have played 30 games already.. 113 games.
During that period England also played another 26 games between, qualifiers, friendlies and nations league. 139 games.
139 potential matches in 550 days...
So in the period of 17th June 2020 to 19 of December 2021, Raheem Sterling has had a potential match less than every 4 days (3.9 to be exact). City are in a luxurious position with regards to rotation but thats a hell of a lot of football.
Lets take a club worse off than City. West Ham and Declan Rice.
He has the same 33 potential international matches.
26 matches so far this season.
44 matches last season
9 post lockdown.
They also had a game postponed because of covid so could be 113.
So for Declan Rice he started back on the 20th finished on the 22nd (550 days as well). He has had a potential 112 matches in 550 days. So he gets a game every 4.9 days and whatever luxury City have with Sterling, West Ham don't have with Rice.
Can't have it both ways, we can't demand high level football and players are run into the ground, those two things are incompatible (ask Leeds fans). Someone like Jordan Henderson would have had as much football as Sterling potentially with the luxury of rotation and in his 30's.
Money won't increase your stamina or make your knees stronger to withstand more games at the pace the game is played at. There's other concerns with the heart and overworking your body.
Then is this not an issue for the clubs? I get it, these athletes are playing at an extremely high intensity and high frequency these days...but do all of these top clubs not have excellent medical departments who monitor players fitness levels and recovery etc. If your star players need to recover the club has a duty of care to not overplay them...then we would see the value is squads and in giving youth players a chance with academies becoming integral pieces of the first team jigsaw (unless you’re city and can afford two first teams). The clubs are responsible for the welfare of their players.
In any other line of work legislation and health and safety best practices kick in...Think of it like the working time Act...if this is becoming an issue of health, there should be a maximum number of first team game hours for players in any one period of a season...if they play more...they breach employment law...it does seem like a natural development in the game...as the intensity gets higher, the human body can only be pushed so far- the answer is not necessarily for the clubs to play their best players more which is what’s happening now, the answer is better squads, relying on youth and more rotation.
Ready to establish the dictatorship of the playertariat, and led by the Red Army
Pep pictured at press conference
Lack of objectivity in here is pretty sad.
I think it was terribly selfish of some of the inferior clubs to have vetoed the 5 subs per game rule. That would have alleviated a lot of the potential issues.
When you add training and travelling into that too it’s ridiculous.
The inferior clubs who don’t have world class players on the bench? Selfish fukers...
Of course he's right.
The solution is simple for City and teams like them, use their whole squad.
A year ago Aston Villa, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Leeds United, Leicester City, Newcastle United, Sheffield United, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers voted against 5 subs. So take another vote and see where things stand now. But I find it very strange that its always the two teams challenging for the league that are moaning the most. While teams fighting relegation dont say very much at all.
A year ago Aston Villa, Burnley, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Leeds United, Leicester City, Newcastle United, Sheffield United, West Ham United and Wolverhampton Wanderers voted against 5 subs. So take another vote and see where things stand now. But I find it very strange that its always the two teams challenging for the league that are moaning the most. While teams fighting relegation dont say very much at all.
David Moyes has already come out and said that was a mistake and given the chance to vote again he'd vote differently.
https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/west-ham-manager-david-moyes-rethinks-5-subs-rule-4346838
More club football, less international please
Yup and when you consider that there are some major downtimes for preseason break (albeit small) the games per day when football is actually on would look even worse. For clubs who aren't stacked this is a huge problem. They didn't see it at the time but less football is probably in their interests too. I'd imagine Rodri for example gets much more rest than a fully fit Kalvin Phillips etc.. People don't wanna see it because "Pep is a selfish Pep Guardiola is my idol" or something but he's right on this one.
Some of the absolute morons in this thread…
What he’s proposing would benefit other teams MORE than it would City!
People saying he should shut up because of how good his squad is… it’s the other teams that need the break and the protection more than City ffs!
What he’s proposing would benefit other teams MORE than it would City!
People saying he should shut up because of how good his squad is… it’s the other teams that need the break and the protection more than City ffs!
I think a lot of people don't understand the big potential problems with playing too many games, the potential for injuries increases very quickly.