Too bad he was wrong when he decided to spend a billion on them.
Luke Shaw responds to Jose Mourinho
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Yes but playing poorly is not a character flaw, and also not the same as unprofessionalism.
He's also not the only one who played poorly, if a team is struggling it drags individuals down.
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Mourinho was completely wrong on Shaw, even when Shaw was playing well I think it was around December 2018 or 2017, he barely played him. Gave him like one game a month, and the continously slagged him off.
And Shaw has been better for more than just one season, he's been largely good with us, just contending with a lot of injuries and some crappy managers (Van Gaal wasn't much better).
Someone suggested that post-Euros fatigue could be affecting the English players and I might agree with them. Maguire and Shaw were both very good last season, subpar this season. Sancho, Rashford etc also for us. I think they got what, like a week or two max off? Probably some truth in that analysis. Especially since last summer there was barely any rest either due to covid.
And Shaw has been better for more than just one season, he's been largely good with us, just contending with a lot of injuries and some crappy managers (Van Gaal wasn't much better).
Someone suggested that post-Euros fatigue could be affecting the English players and I might agree with them. Maguire and Shaw were both very good last season, subpar this season. Sancho, Rashford etc also for us. I think they got what, like a week or two max off? Probably some truth in that analysis. Especially since last summer there was barely any rest either due to covid.
Mourinho was right. Especially about Pogba and Martial. But their fanboys weren't having any of it...their fanboys included Edward Woodward and the Glazers.
The problem with Mourinho was how he went about it! And when the board didnt back him summer 2018 going into the new season he threw his toys out the pram .
I would've respected him more if he handed his resignation that summer.
The problem with Mourinho was how he went about it! And when the board didnt back him summer 2018 going into the new season he threw his toys out the pram .
I would've respected him more if he handed his resignation that summer.
Couldn't agree more.
There’s absolutely nothing I hate more in football than Jose Mourinho fans. Apart from Jose Mourinho, obviously.
YEah, Shaw has been good for just one season is a biggest myth, he was player of the year in 2018-19 season too. Under Jose when he played well, he never got chances, Young was played ahead of him.
That was Fergie after 15 years at the club!
If Mou had been at the club for 15 years and had a one-off rift every few seasons, ofcourse the club would have favoured him.
And Shaw in post-Mou period has been among our better outfield players. 2nd best player last season, arguably the best outfield player in Mou's last season and even in 19-20, he had more than a decent season.
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The United players were absolutely right about the finished one.
Just watched his team a couple of days ago getting dominated by a heavily depleted Milan side even after going down 2-0.
Just watched his team a couple of days ago getting dominated by a heavily depleted Milan side even after going down 2-0.
In what way was Mourinho proven right about Sanchez and Lukaku? He played Lukaku every fecking minute he was available and he dropped his most in-form player for Sanchez
he was absolute shite for us, get over it.Common theme with this poster, just goes around finding controversial posts from no marks on Twitter and bumps threads with them.
The money in football is so insane that resignations never happen anymore.
Look at Solksjaer he held on for dear life to get his pay-off which alone would set any person up for life, several times over.
Always feel vindicated when I see “you are ignoring posts by this member” and click on it (I can’t help myself…) to see they’ve posted another pile of shit.
Let’s ignore of course Mourinho was wrong about the likes of Salah and De Bruyne. Also, Lukaku was his golden boy at United so that’s nonsense.
As a side note, the Mou fan boys are the weirdest of the lot, slightly homoerotic macho/bad guy worship thing going on.
Let’s ignore of course Mourinho was wrong about the likes of Salah and De Bruyne. Also, Lukaku was his golden boy at United so that’s nonsense.
As a side note, the Mou fan boys are the weirdest of the lot, slightly homoerotic macho/bad guy worship thing going on.
Other clubs in the Premier League are also in good form. So why is Manchester United the only club with this "tired English players" syndrome?
It's both funny and sad how people after 7-8 years still think Shaw is fit to fill the shoes of Irwin and Evra.
I mean when you look at the England squad for the Euros, a lot of them haven't been good this season. Some like Reece James, Kalvin Philips are injured. Henderson, Grealish, Mount, Pickford, Kane etc haven't exactly been pulling up trees this season.
Funny Mourinho still has people defending him as a manager. Dude is finished and has been for years.
I thought Jose liked Lukaku?
He wasn't right about Shaw. The problem with Shaw is the fans and media hype got into his head and made him believe since he proved Mourinho wrong he has done it all when in reality he still has done feck all. He's a very good player, but was handled pretty poorly by the club, fans and media after one good thing.
Mourinho was right about Pogba and Martial though. Pogba should have followed him out of the door back then.
Mourinho was right about Pogba and Martial though. Pogba should have followed him out of the door back then.
You just forget the fact that Mourinho was the most toxic person of them all.
The Jose acolytes that still haunt this site are the worst of the lot.
Absolutely. Just bizarre, it’s not even like he’s remotely likeable even when he was good, now he’s miserable and completely shite yet some still worship him.
The only one that he was wrong about was Mourinho, apparently.
It's not a dichotomy though. Sacking Mourinho was the right decision as he was the most toxic out of them all and he wouldn't have lead us to anything. Players should've been held responsible as well though.
Who are those mythical people though?
I think it's mostly a case of Mourinho being a broken clock about Shaw. All the players are underperforming.
id agree with you if it was a one off, unfortunately he has had one good season since he arrived. He’s inconsistent. Really inconsistent and his head drops when things get tough. He isn’t the only one, of course.. but he is now one of our senior players.
i will add to that, he’s a exceptional footballer when he’s on song. It just needs to be more often. It’s clearly a mentality thing with him.
Will never for the life of me understand the cult of personality Mourinho still enjoys in 2022...
He was box office and one of the best in the world at one point but those days have long passed. Rafa Benitez was also that at one point but he doesn't have an army of obnoxious fanboys licking his arse constantly.
Getting rid of them was one of the biggest positives from sacking him, no loyalty to any club just blind loyalty to one finished man
He was box office and one of the best in the world at one point but those days have long passed. Rafa Benitez was also that at one point but he doesn't have an army of obnoxious fanboys licking his arse constantly.
Getting rid of them was one of the biggest positives from sacking him, no loyalty to any club just blind loyalty to one finished man
2022 and people still out here defending Mourinho. Wild.
Mourinho bought a bunch of those players
If he's such a great judge of character, why did they sign when he was in charge? Mourinho is finished. His stans on Twitter are really weird.
If he's such a great judge of character, why did they sign when he was in charge? Mourinho is finished. His stans on Twitter are really weird.
The Mourinho acolytes are truly something.
He was a complete and abject failure here.
He was a complete and abject failure here.
Jose fanboys still around ? jfc.