Rome wasn't built in a day

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So for all the posts comparing to Ole or missing Ole or making early evaluations when its clear we're starting an actual philosophy again, calm your fecking tits.

The season is written off in my books as long as we build for the long term. Yes its frustrating to start again once more but this time its a more credible starting point and no Woodward.

Do we know if that will make us a success? feck no. But in the meantime lets not pretend that the previous era was remotely better.

Rangnick will have turbulence and a lot of the issues he sees right now are wholly inherited. Hes made some bad in game management decisions but I don't think we should write him off from it. It annoys me that the previous regime got more faith from less coaching pedigree to be honest.

We need to get behind this manager and trust the process.
 

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VP89 said:
So for all the posts comparing to Ole or missing Ole or making early evaluations when its clear we're starting again, calm your fecking tits.

The season is written off in my books as long as we build for the long term. Yes its frustrating to start again once more but this time its a more credible starting point and no Woodward.

Do we know if that will make us a success? feck no. But in the meantime lets not pretend that the previous era was remotely better.

Rangnick will have turbulence and a lot of the issues he sees right now are wholly inherited. Hes made some bad in game management decisions but I don't think we should write him off from it. It annoys me that the previous regime got more faith from less coaching pedigree to be honest.

We need to get behind this manager and trust the process.
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We need a CDM right bloody NOW
 

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VP89 said:
So for all the posts comparing to Ole or missing Ole or making early evaluations when its clear we're starting again, calm your fecking tits.

The season is written off in my books as long as we build for the long term. Yes its frustrating to start again once more but this time its a more credible starting point and no Woodward.

Do we know if that will make us a success? feck no. But in the meantime lets not pretend that the previous era was remotely better.

Rangnick will have turbulence and a lot of the issues he sees right now are wholly inherited. Hes made some bad in game management decisions but I don't think we should write him off from it. It annoys me that the previous regime got more faith from less coaching pedigree to be honest.

We need to get behind this manager and trust the process.
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Every year with this.

It's just long-form for "Next year!" that we used to laugh at it in the RAWK threads.

Our time is finished. This is us now and for the future.
 

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Ragnick deserves his criticisms where it’s due but I don’t see how any of this vindicates Ole.
 

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Shane88 said:
Every year with this.

It's just long-form for "Next year!" that we used to laugh at it in the RAWK threads.

Our time is finished. This is us now and for the future.
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Yeah it is what it is. But Woodward is gone next month and he was the constant behind the bad decisions. Its not far fetched to insinuate better times are ahead if Arnold trusts Murtough and Racnick with the process.
 

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Shane88 said:
Every year with this.

It's just long-form for "Next year!" that we used to laugh at it in the RAWK threads.

Our time is finished. This is us now and for the future.
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The absolute truth. The glory days are gone and they ain't never coming back.
 

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I don’t understand this thread title.

Yes Rome wasn’t built in a day but it didn’t take forever to build Rome. Also, every step along the way in building Rome there was appreciable and measurable progress not what we see in Manchester United today where we take one step forward and two backward.

Sigh!
 
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Nope and it seems that the CDM will help build it in a weekend. The same said for the CB, the RB, the RW and CR7. The issues are much more entrenched than any signing and for this reason even prime Kante would struggle to make a difference in this team. RR needs time and signing the best players won't resolve it...
 

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Bearded One said:
I don’t understand this thread title.

Yes Rome wasn’t built in a day but it didn’t take forever to build Rome. Also, every step along the way in building Rome there was appreciable and measurable progress not what we see in Manchester United today where we take one step forward and two backward.

Sigh!
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He is doing it step by step. From a performance standpoint this was our best since Palace.
 

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Seems like we build a small wall with expensive materials and it falls down, since 2013.
 

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elnorte said:
The absolute truth. The glory days are gone and they ain't never coming back.
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They will come back. But it's not gonna be in 2-3 years.

I said it in the other thread, we're 90s Liverpool now. True glory is probably 20 years off with a cup or two sprinkled in here and there.

The club is an absolute disaster. The stadium is ancient and shitty, the board are parasitic, the players are cnuts, the management is slap-dash and short-term, the fanbase meekly accepts it all. It is gonna take so, so, so long to sort it all out.

2 midfielders and Erik Ten Hag is gonna do little to nothing.
 

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Bearded One said:
I don’t understand this thread title.

Yes Rome wasn’t built in a day but it didn’t take forever to build Rome. Also, every step along the way in building Rome there was appreciable and measurable progress not what we see in Manchester United today where we take one step forward and two backward.

Sigh!
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Wow....I'm absolutely blown away. Surely this in tongue in cheek....
 

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Rome wasnt built in a day but in football terms for one of the biggest clubs on the planet 10 years and counting since we were seriously good is pushing that analogy a little bit too far.
 

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I guess we have to start somewhere. Its quite clear we need CDM and there are few available in the market for less money.
 

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Shane88 said:
They will come back. But it's not gonna be in 2-3 years.

I said it in the other thread, we're 90s Liverpool now. True glory is probably 20 years off with a cup or two sprinkled in here and there.

The club is an absolute disaster. The stadium is ancient and shitty, the board are parasitic, the players are cnuts, the management is slap-dash and short-term, the fanbase meekly accepts it all. It is gonna take so, so, so long to sort it all out.

2 midfielders and Erik Ten Hag is gonna do little to nothing.
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Another one.....we as a fan base deserve everything we are getting at the mo. We dinned out on success and think we had some kind of god given right to continue that way. Maybe go and ask how a Bury fan feels......
 

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Wow......when were you born? You know Utd were once relegated......
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Yes I'm aware. It's just that this time we're not coming back. It'll soon an irreversible matter of no player blessed with any genuine top class quality combined with basic self-respect wishing to play for a has-been club like Manchester United.
 

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OP has mentioned Ole in 9 different posts in the past 3 hours. Talk about letting someone live rent free in your head.

Club is and has been a complete shambles from top to bottom in the past 8-9 years. These issues go far beyond the managers. "Trusting processes" won't get us anywhere. No manager will succeed here until we sort out the rotten core. Time to forget about the castle in the air and wake up to reality.
 

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Rome was not built in a day. But with the kind of spending power that this club has (and it does, despite the Glazers), not to mention legacy and fanbase and all that other stuff, there is no justification whatsoever for being adrift in a wilderness of non-stop wholesale failure for nearly a decade on end. It's completely inexcusable and is starting to become one of the biggest collapses in the history of the sport.
 
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elnorte said:
Yes I'm aware. It's just that this time we're not coming back. It'll soon an irreversible matter of no player blessed with any genuine top class quality combined with basic self-respect wishing to play for a has-been club like Manchester United.
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Oh FFS!
 

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elnorte said:
Yes I'm aware. It's just that this time we're not coming back. It'll soon an irreversible matter of no player blessed with any genuine top class quality combined with basic self-respect wishing to play for a has-been club like Manchester United.
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This club has been built on tackling adversity.
 

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Bizarre time to write this. This previous (almost) decade of struggle was on the horizon even when SAF was here, and was obviously going to happen when Gill went the same summer and we appointed Moyes.

It's only now, after a decade, that people at the club are strating to show that they're thinking about football and will hopefully make smart moves and appointments. It all comes from the top - the owners don't care about winning and that filters through to the players who don't have to win. They barely have to run. I'm hopeful this era is coming to an end. I've only held that hope for about a month in the last nine years (when things seemed to click in LVG's first season with great performances against Liverpoll away, City and Spurs). But I'm starting to feel optimistic again.

Remember other managers ie Klopp and Pep struggled, to an extent, for a little while to get their teams running in the PL. Ralf can't work miracles with this bunch but hopefully this is the beginning of the end of this shameful era.
 

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Totally agree with the sentiment here - Ralf is implementing a totally different system and it's simply not going to happen quickly.

This seems like a good path for us to go down, we have to be willing to suffer in the short term.

It would be nice, however, to get some legs in midfield for the rest of this season.
 

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croadyman said:
We need a CDM right bloody NOW
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We need two. And a box to box

then a top three of Ronaldo, Bruno, Greenwood (or sancho or elanga) and we are good. Because the midfield will bring the balance. Should be a 4-3-2-1 with the fullbacks pushing width and the new cdm signings covering for them when they are pushing high. We have so many attacking midfielders and attackers it’s crazy.

but over all hats off for the first parts of the game today becuase in many ways we had a lot of positives. Just needed a Sub in midfield and at the back 4 tbh. Bissaka Should have came on once we were up by two unless he was injured
 

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Said in another thread this feels like a season where we finish 7th unless we stumble on something good in terms of formation/team shape. It's quite hard to have hope and feels like yet another "transition" year :(

One day we'll get it right though (maybe)
 
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