Everton 1:0 Manchester United

arthurka · Apr 9, 2022

Mike Oxard said:
Hard to sign top players when Utd are out of the top 4, the existing players not up to it, no CL etc. This will be a long, hard slog that will probably see the rest of the decade out before there is any real challenge for the top trophies.

That might actually be a blessing given our hit rate with top players.

Mr Pigeon · Apr 9, 2022

Hernandez - BFA said:
Not one of these players give a shit.

Start from scratch with a fresh bunch who actually want to fight.

I hope they played shite because they've been told to feck off at the end of the season. I don't want to see many of these cnuts anywhere near my club next year. If we start handing out new contracts in the coming weeks then I'm honestly going to dig a massive hole in the ground and just go live in it.

Majima · Apr 9, 2022

Majima said:
Everton ran 10km more than us today. This stat perfectly encapsulates everything rotten with the club.

One team's players who're fighting for their immediate futures, the others who're perfectly content in the knowledge that their wages are going nowhere regardless of what happens to the club.

UnitedSofa said:
So that implies that United had much more control of the ball……so in effect, United dominated possession, which they did.

There's a difference between having more possession, and letting the opposing team run 10km more than you in a match you lost.

By your logic Man City should have the least work rate in the league? No, they regularly rank near the top of the league for running stats.

Pep on importance of running:

“Without the ball these players are top quality,” “I try to convince them to run like the most humble team in the world.

“If they don’t do that they don’t play - they sit beside me on the bench. I can forgive everything - but if they don’t run, they don’t play.

“You have to run in football. People say a lot of things. Our physicality is always good. That is one of our secrets - more than tactics, spirit. you try to run.”

This is something we don't know the meaning of at this football club anymore.

manichester · Apr 9, 2022

Pro footballers playing for Manchester United
Can't make simple passes.
Don't put in enough effort.
Walk around and hang on to the ball too long.
Give up after conceding a goal.
No one can get a tune out of this lot.

tenpoless · Apr 9, 2022

OrcaFat said:
Our players ARE average.

I mean average as in placing random players that play for other lower-mid table teams. Because I've seen more competitiveness from a non professional footballer playing in an unofficial match. This is very worrying because even if they have a new manager, there's no guarantee it will change their outlook on football. A lot of change in players have to be done to reset everything I'm afraid.

Red00012 · Apr 9, 2022

Post match is basically we have the most unlikeable squad I have supported in 20 years

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

manichester said:
Pro footballers playing for Manchester United
Can't make simple passes.
Don't put in enough effort.
Walk around and hang on to the ball too long.
Give up after conceding a goal.
No one can get a tune out of this lot.

Sorry. I thought this was going to rhyme. Was going to ask what tune I should sing it to. You are right though.

Amira · Apr 9, 2022

Arsenal losing again makes this performance hurt even more

RuudTom83 · Apr 9, 2022

When you let the players get away with it…even worse rewarded for it! Then you get what you deserve.

Ralf is not the type of guy to pander to their egos and tell them how great they are.

pauldyson1uk · Apr 9, 2022

DDG slaming the team.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...LMvCSrD36zM5iPquIliCj6WbXnXX7GfnMdaZ58TBDO-lU

RedAlways78 · Apr 9, 2022

Our goal difference is +7 and 7 games to go. This must be our worst season. That performance was dire.

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

pauldyson1uk said:
DDG slaming the team.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...LMvCSrD36zM5iPquIliCj6WbXnXX7GfnMdaZ58TBDO-lU

Thank goodness one of them seems to realise it.

Whatsername · Apr 9, 2022

DomesticTadpole said:
Sorry. I thought this was going to rhyme. Was going to ask what tune I should sing it to. You are right though.

I was hoping it was a new chant for next Saturday.

VanDeBank · Apr 9, 2022

Disappointing. Conference League is looking further and further away now.

Fridge chutney · Apr 9, 2022

Solius said:
Didn’t turn it back on after half time and won’t be watching any of the 7 remaining games.

This

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

Think they need to have a home truths session.

Crashoutcassius · Apr 9, 2022

can anyone point me to the 'style of play' i was guaranteed under a modern coach?

and if you cant, what is the reason for this, without mentioning ole who is gone several months

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

Whatsername said:
I was hoping it was a new chant for next Saturday.

The home crowd need to let them know how unhappy they are. We will get a 1-0 win and lots of photos being taken.

TheLord · Apr 9, 2022

My only worry is if we are more than one top manager away from even the top-four.

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

TheLord said:
My only worry is if we are more than one top manager away from even the top-four.

We will be if we let things roll along as they it have up to now.

arthurka · Apr 9, 2022

pauldyson1uk said:
DDG slaming the team.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...LMvCSrD36zM5iPquIliCj6WbXnXX7GfnMdaZ58TBDO-lU

Oh please he is the captain of FC Softasshit always the same shit. Spinless bunch of primadonnas.

NewGlory · Apr 9, 2022

This season is trashed. We need to bench most of these assholes and play young players for the rest of the season. Give young guys chance and experience at least if we are gonna lose to the likes of relegation Everton, anyways

It requires Ten Hag deal to be done as RR must consult with him which senior players, if any, should still play, but it should be half of them at most

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

arthurka said:
Oh please he is the captain of FC Softasshit always the same shit. Spinless bunch of primadonnas.

Not a lot he did wrong today. Also he is the poor sap that gets rolled out to answer for the rest of them time after time recently. Where is Captain fecking Fantastic. To me if you have that sort of performance the captain should be facing the music.

justsomebloke · Apr 9, 2022

What gets to me is the way in which this team lose, or fail to win. We don't get outplayed, we're not overrun, the opponent doesn't play very well. This game, we had more than 2/3 possession, more shots, more shots on goal, twice the xG of the opponent. And still it seems completely logical and appropriate that we lose. Because we're so fecking TEPID it makes you want to scream. No sharpness, no confidence, no fight. And - and this is to some extent on Rangnick I think - we basically don't have an offensive game, haven't had one for ages. Other than feeding off opposition mistakes. We are a much worse team than last season, and we're not getting better, or show any indication of being on the way to getting better. I'm almost beginning to hope we end up in the ECL next season, that's about our level right now and what these losers deserve.

Bobski · Apr 9, 2022

NK86 said:
Check our running stats against City then.

Yes, it is an ongoing problem with this squad. To be fair to Rangnick I don't understand the choices made around squad composition with the nature of the PL in mind. We don't have any senior attacking players(maybe outside of Lingard) capable of playing with physical intensity for 90 mins. That is why Elanga has got a run, not on ability at this stage, but on workrate and willingness to run. To add Ronaldo and Sancho to an attacking group of Rashford, broken down Cavani, Greenwood, Pogba, Bruno, Matic, low intensity full backs in Shaw and AWB was never going to work.

McFred get a lot of stick but they didn't have a chance with group around them.

Gordon S · Apr 9, 2022

So this team, without the summer additions of Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho, reached a second place in the league last season, and a EL final. And that with a (supposedly) much worse manager. Makes sense.

Forgot we had early kickoff and missed the entire game, not gonna lose sleep over it

Pickle85 · Apr 9, 2022

DomesticTadpole said:
Not a lot he did wrong today. Also he is the poor sap that gets rolled out to answer for the rest of them time after time recently. Where is Captain fecking Fantastic. To me if you have that sort of performance the captain should be facing the music.

Agreed. Not sure what people expect him to say really. If he said 'we played well and were unlucky' the same people would be slamming him for not taking responsibility etc.

amolbhatia50k · Apr 9, 2022

A part of me thinks we should actually clear many first teamers (somehow) to send a clear message as to the standard of effort and application required. And I'm not just talking about the ones that are anyway goners.

Kopral Jono · Apr 9, 2022

I missed the game. Thank goodness.

arthurka · Apr 9, 2022

DomesticTadpole said:
Not a lot he did wrong today. Also he is the poor sap that gets rolled out to answer for the rest of them time after time recently. Where is Captain fecking Fantastic. To me if you have that sort of performance the captain should be facing the music.

He is as much of a problem with the mentality of this group as the next man. But I agree with you on why the so called captain is a no show. We weren't good enough bla bla we go again bullshit.

justsomebloke · Apr 9, 2022

redmanx said:
I fail to see where we've improved since Ole went.

I think our basic game looks better - more structure and solidity. But on the other hand, we seem to have completely lost our killer instinct, and our attacking game, which at times was very good under OGS, has just disappeared. And the results aren't better. Not even compared to OGS' record this season, never mind the previous two.

But, ultimately as I'm sure you'll agree it's a pointless comparison. Whatever OGS had going simply collapsed this fall, there's no way back from that. But it all leaves us in a grim place.

JohnnyKills · Apr 9, 2022

DomesticTadpole said:
I would be thinking about the future of the club, change the way you lengthen contracts (which they already showing stupidity), put the right sort of incentives in, stop rewarding players too early. Look if players have the right character before you sign them. You need to have the skin of a rhino to play for United, too many fold under the slightest criticism, instead of using it to prove us wrong. If somebody is the wrong fit, sell them, do not be embarrassed to admit you got it wrong.

Agree

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

Pickle85 said:
Agreed. Not sure what people expect him to say really. If he said 'we played well and were unlucky' the same people would be slamming him for not taking responsibility etc.

Think as a goalkeeper you can see everything that is wrong. He has a ring side seat.

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

arthurka said:
He is as much of a problem with the mentality of this group as the next man. But I agree with you on why the so called captain is a no show. We weren't good enough bla bla we go again bullshit.

In a way I can understand why they look at Declan Rice, not just for his midfield prowess, but can also slot in at CB. The big thing to me is, that he is a captain.

Red00012 · Apr 9, 2022

Was a mobile phone thrown at Ronaldo

MiracleInMadrid · Apr 9, 2022

DomesticTadpole said:
I would be thinking about the future of the club, change the way you lengthen contracts (which they already showing stupidity), put the right sort of incentives in, stop rewarding players too early. Look if players have the right character before you sign them. You need to have the skin of a rhino to play for United, too many fold under the slightest criticism, instead of using it to prove us wrong. If somebody is the wrong fit, sell them, do not be embarrassed to admit you got it wrong.

Totally agree.

And start being more cynical in terms of selling players. If they are demanding crazy money when renewal of contracts are due, put them on the transfer market.
Stop renewing players in the hope of them turning good suddenly. Get rid and get on. We seem scared to sell players who somehow maybe turn out valuable in the future.

I wonder how much money/room for new players we have missed out on by holding on to the likes of Lingard, Pogba, Rashford, Henderson and so on.

cj_sparky · Apr 9, 2022

Red00012 said:
Was a mobile phone thrown at Ronaldo

He slapped it out of some ones hand I believe.

BaneIsPain · Apr 9, 2022

Looking forward next season with nine new first teamer.

DomesticTadpole · Apr 9, 2022

MiracleInMadrid said:
Totally agree.

And start being more cynical in terms of selling players. If they are demanding crazy money when renewal of contracts are due, put them on the transfer market.
Stop renewing players in the hope of them turning good suddenly. Get rid and get on. We seem scared to sell players who somehow maybe turn out valuable in the future.

I wonder how much money/room for new players we have missed out on by holding on to the likes of Lingard, Pogba, Rashford, Henderson and so on.

Definitely. We hand out stupid contracts for far, far too much money and then don't sell players because of another team not agreeing to a few million more on a fee, when they should just get what they can for them to get their wages off the clubs books. If they weren't on so much money we would likely find it easier to shift them.

KeanosMagic · Apr 9, 2022

Amira said:
Arsenal losing again makes this performance hurt even more

For me its the opposite. I hope Spurs win later and Arsenal miss out on top 4. That along with Liverpool missing out on major honours are all I have left to hope for this season. Completely lost hope in this squad of players.

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