Premier League Gameweek 33-35

GaryLifo

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Would be nice if they could just for once have the bad rub off the green. E.g. go behind to a deflected goal, then get someone sent off and have a really tough match. I swear when we were good we had numerous games every season where we had to overcome some adversity. It's infuriating

Instead the opposition give up in the tunnel and squander any chances they do get to punish Liverpool and their high line.
 

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Liverpool relying on VAR to score an undeserved victory yet again.
Yeah, Newcastle more than merited a draw in a game they were second best in. Plus, VAR didn’t overturn any decision but nonetheless it’s a disgrace!
 

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We should have scored 3 or 4 but a win is a win. Controlled the possesion and controlled the match with no controversy regardless of the VAR conspiracy theorists.
Milner somehow still get’s it done so Klopp got it right yet again.
 

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Their recruitment is just insane. Keita was supposed to be their big fee flop for goodness sake. The guy is unplayable at the moment.

They made the most in-form team in the league (besides themselves) look devoid of confidence and threat today.
 

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VAR didn’t overturn a decision, right?
No, but how can it miss Mane red card? Liverpool scoring goal after tackle from Milner doesn't exactly help the case either.

You are good team. Very, very good team. But VAR have been on your side since it was introduced.
 

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The two missed penalties in the Everton game were far worse than anything today.

Never was there a better example of home team bias than those not being given. Note here I'm not saying Liverpool bias.

All this said, I'm not going to do what Liverpool fans did when we were great and say it's all down to bias and luck. They're a brilliant team with a brilliant manager. If not for City they'd win the league unopposed for the next 2-3 years at least, and even then may win it anyway.

I don't like it, but our own team have done nothing to stop it happening and that's where we need to focus.
 

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Would be nice if they could just for once have the bad rub off the green. E.g. go behind to a deflected goal, then get someone sent off and have a really tough match. I swear when we were good we had numerous games every season where we had to overcome some adversity. It's infuriating

Instead the opposition give up in the tunnel and squander any chances they do get to punish Liverpool and their high line.
They obviously will have a game where things won't go their way.

I thought Everton and Spurs would be their toughest matches in the run in and for 45 mins Everton did hold their own. The Spurs game is interesting because a draw is no use to either side, especially if their rivals keep winning.
 

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No, but how can it miss Mane red card? Liverpool scoring goal after tackle from Milner doesn't exactly help the case either.

You are good team. Very, very good team. But you have had VAR with you since it was introduced.
The Milner challenge was fair. He was the ball. Got kicked by the late Newcastle player.

Mané wasn’t a red.

I’d be fascinated to see what metric you’re using to suggest VAR favours Liverpool. The tables I’ve seen over the past year or so indicate Liverpool are unlucky with VAR.
 

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The Milner challenge was fair. He was the ball. Got kicked by the late Newcastle player.

Mané wasn’t a red.

I’d be fascinated to see what metric you’re using to suggest VAR favours Liverpool. The tables I’ve seen over the past year or so indicate Liverpool are unlucky with VAR.
Then there's really no point to this discussion
 

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I don't think Milner was 'in control' of that tackle despite getting a touch on the ball. They could easily have ruled that a foul. Thankfully, they've got the 5th official - Jurgen Klopp, camped in the ear of the 4th official for the entire 90 minutes to ensure the referee is aware of what Klopp thinks of every decision.

My wife isn't into football at all and she even said to me recently "why is the Liverpool manager allowed to stand next to the referee (she didn't realise it was the 4th official) and tell him what to do?"
 

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The myth that VAR isn't used on certain things is just that. VAR looks at everything. Just because the game wasn't paused for 3 minutes, thats because they had a quick look realized they can't overrule the referee for whatever reason. But VAR looks at everything.

The Mane one was lucky but it was also an interpretation (and he's gotten lucky with the refs interpretations a few times, might be the badge on his shirt) but if the ref gives a yellow and the VAR thinks its 70/30 a red, unless the ref missed it than they go with the on field decision and play goes on. Its not stonewall and not a clear and obvious error.

Blame the "we don't wanna ruin the feel and flow of the game" crowd.
VAR can't win - People in the VAR make a decision "Why don't they stick with the ref". VAR sticks with the ref "Whats the use?" Of course it depends on who the decision goes for and against.

Manes had a few refs bottle big decisions but it is what it is.
 

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The Milner challenge was fair. He was the ball. Got kicked by the late Newcastle player.

Mané wasn’t a red.

I’d be fascinated to see what metric you’re using to suggest VAR favours Liverpool. The tables I’ve seen over the past year or so indicate Liverpool are unlucky with VAR.
Milner tackle left Newcaslte player injuried. It was at best 50/50. You know that Liverpool would get freekick for that in same situation at Anfeld.

Mane wasn't red? So studs on knee is not red? I guess it just another rules for Liverpool. And you might be right.

You don't have to have stats. It is enough to watch games.
 

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The two missed penalties in the Everton game were far worse than anything today.
The consensus on Totally Football, Second Captains and MOTD was that Gordon wasn’t fouled and he invited the pen. All neutral outlets.

The only place I’ve seen folk determined to suggest it was definitely a pen is on here and wild blues on twitter.
 

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Then there's really no point to this discussion
VAR will have checked it. Yellow card.

Some mythical pro-Liverpool agenda isn’t sufficient enough to counter the fact that it would have been a very harsh red.
 

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The two missed penalties in the Everton game were far worse than anything today.

Never was there a better example of home team bias than those not being given. Note here I'm not saying Liverpool bias.

All this said, I'm not going to do what Liverpool fans did when we were great and say it's all down to bias and luck. They're a brilliant team with a brilliant manager. If not for City they'd win the league unopposed for the next 2-3 years at least, and even then may win it anyway.

I don't like it, but our own team have done nothing to stop it happening and that's where we need to focus.
That's literally most of the posters in RedCafe are doing. This forum is becoming as deluded as Rawk. 10 threads are being created everyday elevating the delusion, suggesting conspiracy theories about doping and whatnot.

I sincerely hope that Ten Hag turns your fortune around soon, because this forum deserves better posts.
 

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The consensus on Totally Football, Second Captains and MOTD was that Gordon wasn’t fouled and he invited the pen. All neutral outlets.

The only place I’ve seen folk determined to suggest it was definitely a pen is on here and wild blues on twitter.
First half, TAA used his right hand to push Gordon over from behind... how does he invite that? It's a penalty and a yellow card.