I think he could have Mount type of impact with us if we keep him next season. But it will also depend who we are buying in summer. If we get 2 new midfielders elsewhere maybe another season of loaning him wouldn’t be bad idea. But likely scenario due to reported budget, we may only buy 1 midfielder in summer and promote him to our first team to compete with McFred next season.
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Agree. I think that Scott’s passing is pretty poor, while Fred- though he does have errant periods- is actually a skilful and intelligent passer of the ball.
As for Garner, I’ve not had much chance to watch him this season. I really wanted him to be great when he came into the United side in those few games, he had a cool haircut and a good Manc attitude and all. However, his play was in fact pretty mediocre. He may have improved a lot since then- I hope so…
It was not only Moyes though. Zaha was loaned back to Crystal City right before the 2014 Summer window closed, then converted to permanent deal in the next winter window with peanut fee. That means LVG also did not rate him and let him go without much regret.
No, he didn't.
Biggest game of his career tonight. If they beat Bournemouth they’ll overtake them and go into the automatic promotion spot.
Does he pass like Carrick or does he pass like Scholes or does he pass like Xavi (bit more shorter spread)
LVG did not use wingers, he infamously put Januzaj at wingback. It was Moyes who inexplicably froze him out.
To me he had a sort of indie Barnet, which I liked… but each to their own
He's much more of a Carrick/Scholes than a Xavi.
If Forest goes up might be better for him to stay there next season
Definitely.
Starts as expected tonight.
It was a fairly small moment but he just pulled a lovely dummy which got the winger to the byline and created a chance. He's got a great understanding of the game.
Having an alright game so far. Nothing more nothing less.
Pretty sure the exchange started with people replying to claims such as: "This guy is already better Fred (he useless). Get him in!" (paraphrasing).
Comparing players is fair. No one randomly started talking about Fred in the wrong thread.
Fun game. Too bad Laird is on the bench. I see good stuff from Garner, but he doesn't impose himself. I bet he clocks a relatively low amount of touches per game.
Garner's barely been involved in the first half. Not completely his fault, as both teams are doing most of their work down the opposite flank (the right side for Forest). He has been quite passive though, often just walking/jogging around without any real purpose for his positioning as the game passes him by.
This is the first time I've watched him for about 6 months, so I was hoping he was making a bigger impact in games than he he was earlier in the season. Of course, this is a one-off match against one of the better teams in the Championship, so no idea if it's a good indication of how he's been playing the last few months.
This is the first time I've watched him for about 6 months, so I was hoping he was making a bigger impact in games than he he was earlier in the season. Of course, this is a one-off match against one of the better teams in the Championship, so no idea if it's a good indication of how he's been playing the last few months.
Have to agree with this. Not sure what that's about.
He does it often, but I cant say if it's on him or if it's tactical. It won't work in a big team and certainly not in an ETH team though.
Absolute passenger in this game so far. Think he's only touched the ball twice in the second half and he's given it away both times. McTominay vs Chelsea levels.. 
Forest have looked rubbish. Like they’re just waiting to be killed off. Garner is anonymous, which is disappointing.
He’s often like this when I’ve seen him. On the ball you see the quality but generally the game passes him by too much.
Ahh shame.
Hopefully they make it through the playoffs.
Hopefully they make it through the playoffs.
Forest corner in the last seconds to try get an equaliser and he hits the first man
He's never been more ready for United!
He's never been more ready for United!
Not his best game today. It can happen. He is for me a bit passive though, maybe thats down to tactics. I prefer Levitt and Galbraith.
This issue I have had with him always, just doesnt get involved enough. Yates, his CM partner, is usually the more active of two and then there is Colback as well a lot more involved in general play.
Yes he delivers a good set piece and will break once or twice with the ball from midfield but thats it. He needs to do more. The likes of Skipp and Gallagher were doing so much more in their loan spells
Yes he delivers a good set piece and will break once or twice with the ball from midfield but thats it. He needs to do more. The likes of Skipp and Gallagher were doing so much more in their loan spells
I see his potential as a mid/lower table PL player and this is probably the best time to sell him.
It's why he really needs a PL loan, ideally at Forest if they go up, I think he'd struggle quite a bit with the faster pace and better defences in the PL. He doesn't really impose himself. Whereas you watch Gallagher in any of his PL loans and you can see straight away he'd fit in at a top team, whereas with Garner it's hard to tell.
I like Garner but really dont see how he fits into our squad. We have a diablocal midfield, a lot of which we are losing. But either way we still have McFred and Fernandes and possibly we still have VDB. We also have Hannibal.
On top of that, we are cerrtainly signing a central midfielder, I would probably expect (ok hope more like), we sign two as we should have done last summer. So where would that leave Garner....as a squad option when its likely McFred will be along with Hannibal and VDB, dont see hwo het gets games and although I think he is a good player, from what I have seen, dont see him developing into the kind of player initially hoped
On top of that, we are cerrtainly signing a central midfielder, I would probably expect (ok hope more like), we sign two as we should have done last summer. So where would that leave Garner....as a squad option when its likely McFred will be along with Hannibal and VDB, dont see hwo het gets games and although I think he is a good player, from what I have seen, dont see him developing into the kind of player initially hoped
loan or sell McTominay and when you mean sign two CMs i hope you mean one (or honestly two) DMs. If Donny gets a chance it’ll certainly be a cm with more attacking role and with a proper DM Fred most likely would excel centrally with the option to roam forward, more box to box. A DM signing is necessary but we also need a backup, and if it isn’t Garner then we need to sign a younger more prospective squad player
Garner isn’t really a DM though is he?
Yes he needs a loan in the Premier League as the next step for his progress and show that he can dictate play or influence games at whatever level he can and not wait for things to happen.
It’s a team sports. How can we expect a so-called manutd-level player has to be a Superman who can individually destroy the opponent by himself?
He can play in a number of positions in midfield.
I've watched Forest quite a lot this season and he has played in a double pivot, DM and further forward.
I prefer it when he's the furthest back, but it's a specialised technical position which doesn't necessarily look all action. Today wasn't his best game but he looked great in the FA cup games against Leicester, Arsenal and Liverpool.
There's a good chance that, given a little time with better players, he can improve even further. Who knows how much ETH can develop his game?
Sounds like Ward-Prowse a bit, and he took years to get to the level he's at. Points towards a loan to a bad prem team will play him. Maybe Southampton if Ward-Prowse leaves, as they really only have Romeu and Diallo I think. Leeds are short there, especially if Phillips leaves. Brentford if Eriksen goes. Palace if they don't replace Gallagher would be a risky one, but highest upside for him to get 20+ games on a team that plays football, as they play 3 in midfield and don't really have the bodies for it with Macarthur a year older, Eze maybe being a wideman and Kouyate and Schlupp are fine but nothing special. Will Hughes I think gets one spot, though, and he seems similar enough to Garner that it might be a bad fit.
CAF is desperate to see him bossing the midfield ala Scholes/Xavi tonight. Which is unfair to the lad to be honest.
Some of our fans massively over rate our academy lads. Like massively. It’s a huge blind spot for people. Who are the best academy players post co92? Pogba and Greenwood and they are more hype and technique than anything tangible.
What's not unfair to expect is for him to:
A. Be involved in the game
B. Show moments of quality on the ball
He did neither.
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He has always flattered to deceive for me.
He is capable lad but doesn't impose himself on games enough....didn't watch last night but forest fans I know have said he has good games and quiet games.
Still want him to get a chance under ETH,but needs a prem loan first to see if he can master the level.
He is capable lad but doesn't impose himself on games enough....didn't watch last night but forest fans I know have said he has good games and quiet games.
Still want him to get a chance under ETH,but needs a prem loan first to see if he can master the level.
Agree with this. Be a player who has some kind of impact on the game and show you're a level above, which is why you'll get PT at Manchester United one day. Do a few things of/with distinction and show your class against a team who will evidently be in the PL next season.
Garner's first port of call now looks to be whether he's PL standard let alone concerning himself with a team who is aiming for CL football as a bare minimum.
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