Nordic Goal Yeti | Haaland at City

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That’s the take I thought most of you would agree with. As long as it stops Liverpool then let City keep getting bigger and better and dominate the league like no ever has, more than even the great Liverpool and united teams in years past. Great isn’t it.
Yes because their success means feck all in the grand scheme of things and never will.
 

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so if he's a £200m striker does that mean Real have signed at 29year old Rudiger as a £100m defender, and even if it is £200m Kane would have been closer to £250m in that case so it's still a better deal financially
I feel like you picked up on completely the wrong point I was trying to make.
 

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Ahh yes I’ve seen this is the new delusion over on the blue side. That United are somewhat comparable to City due to the owner spending his own money over 100 years so ago. It’s beyond stupid and clutching at something which is in no way the same.

Utterly bizarre you can’t just accept what you are and deal with it instead of coming on to a United forum to try and justify yourselves. Everyone knows.
How dare you. I'll have you know City were an established PL team for all of 5 minutes before they were taken over by a State. If Abu Dhabi hadn't come along i'm sure there would have been a slew of other trillionaires willing to spend their cash on Ardwicks biggest club. It's a well known fact that the likes of Aguero & Guardiola dreamed of nothing more than joining the pantheon of legends such as Goater & Pearce.
 

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How dare you. I'll have you know City were an established PL team for all of 5 minutes before they were taken over by a State. If Abu Dhabi hadn't come along i'm sure there would have been a slew of other trillionaires willing to spend their cash on Ardwicks biggest club. It's a well known fact that the likes of Aguero & Guardiola dreamed of nothing more than joining the pantheon of legends such as Goater & Pearce.
I heard Dias and Laporte have posters of Keith Curle on their bedroom walls from Shoot magazine whilst Aguero dreamed of following in the footsteps of Uwe Rosler. A dream Haaland can now follow himself.
 

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Interesting that City are changing their recruitment strategy, especially when you consider most big transfers ultimately fail. Will also be interesting to see how Haaland fits into a Pep system, as it feels they're going down the United path of signing the best possible players available without any regard as to how they will fit them into the system.

Part of me hopes this is the beginning to the downfall, like when United went and signed Lukaku, Pogba etc and ruined the dressing room and wage structure, but I'm fairly sure Haaland will be some sort of success. Going to be really difficult to throw excuses out next season when they don't win the CL again after spending £200m on a striker.
Where did you get that from? Reports say £51.2m
 

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I think anyone that truly believes City are paying only £50m for Haaland are off their heads. It’s widely reported how much fees were during the move to Dortmund along with the insistence of a release clause. Both these factors put United off going for him (confirmed by Dortmund CEO).

Does anyone think these fees will suddenly now be non existent? Or given the success he’s had that they have actually sky rocketed? It’s obviously the latter. Ultimately this was one of the reasons a minimum release was inserted to ensure he could move on from Dortmund and maximise what he and his family made from a future deal.
 

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You see - this is the trap that some United fans keep falling into. Constantly using City as a diversionary tactic for the ongoing failings at your own club. You can moan about City's lottery win as much as you like (in any case, it's not like United haven't had lottery wins themselves during their history as both John Henry Davies and James Gibson would testify if they were still alive today but I digress), but the fact remains that over the past decade United have been the world's highest net spenders and I think it's fair to say that you haven't come close to getting enough bang for your buck. Indeed, I think it wouldn't be that outrageous to suggest that in relative terms of outlay over such an extended period or time, United must be up there as returning the least amount of success than any other club on the planet. Ever. No amount of complaining about City changes that and it's hardly City's fault that you've been so badly run as a club since Ferguson retired. And there really is no excuse for that considering how much you've splashed out.
In the past 14 years united owners took 1.5 billion out of the club in dividends and to pay their debts. City owners pumped 2 billions into the club at the same time. You must be very silly or ignorant to say a gap of 3.5 billion will not show. Do you understand what 3.5 billions mean?
 

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I think anyone that truly believes City are paying only £50m for Haaland are off their heads. It’s widely reported how much fees were during the move to Dortmund along with the insistence of a release clause. Both these factors put United off going for him (confirmed by Dortmund CEO).

Does anyone think these fees will suddenly now be non existent? Or given the success he’s had that they have actually sky rocketed? It’s obviously the latter. Ultimately this was one of the reasons a minimum release was inserted to ensure he could move on from Dortmund and maximise what he and his family made from a future deal.
of course it's not, but as Crossy say's it's about £200m including 5 years salary, so £40m a season, considering it was reporting it was going to be around £350m for 5 years it's still a good deal, for context Rudiger at 29 is going to Madrid on a free, but it's not really, all reported costs and wages are close to £100m
 

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I'm not anti Scottish, I just wanted Moyes out.
I think anyone that truly believes City are paying only £50m for Haaland are off their heads. It’s widely reported how much fees were during the move to Dortmund along with the insistence of a release clause. Both these factors put United off going for him (confirmed by Dortmund CEO).

Does anyone think these fees will suddenly now be non existent? Or given the success he’s had that they have actually sky rocketed? It’s obviously the latter. Ultimately this was one of the reasons a minimum release was inserted to ensure he could move on from Dortmund and maximise what he and his family made from a future deal.
In that case, let's not believe any transfers stated from now on. Maybe we paid 200m for Maquire combined fee's from transfer, agent, player fees and salary. Either we refer to what's officially stated for a transfer when talking about it or we can just come up with any number we like, 180m for Sancho.
 

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Why do we have so many citeh fans in our forum? ffs I once took a look at their forum and it is a sh*t storm of ignorance but I could not find 1 united poster there.
 

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In that case, let's not believe any transfers stated from now on. Maybe we paid 200m for Maquire combined fee's from transfer, agent, player fees and salary. Either we refer to what's officially stated for a transfer when talking about it or we can just come up with any number we like, 180m for Sancho.
Weird post
 

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I usually hope Norwegians do well in PL, even Ødegaard, who seems like a nice guy, but i'll have no problem if Haaland miss every shot and ends up being a flop.

It will be more fun than annoying hearing English speakers pronounce his name wrong every time too :lol:
 

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So I'm guessing this was just a PR thing:
PR stunt from the federation yes. As the calls for 'boycott Qatar' were getting louder and louder, the football federation had to do something to defuse the situation. This was their solution and they could say "at least we're doing something". To be fair to the federation if they had agreed to boycott, that would've been the end of them as a governing body. Boycotting would've meant severe sanctions in return and basically killing off their major revenue streams. And for what? A country that never qualifies for tournaments deciding to boycott a tournament they most likely weren't going to qualify for anyway would have zero effect.

From Haaland's perspective, he never really cared about the protests beyond wearing the t-shirts. Always standing half a yard behind or not raising his hand like the rest of his teammates. Guess he was aware what his next career move was going to be :lol:




 

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In that case, let's not believe any transfers stated from now on. Maybe we paid 200m for Maquire combined fee's from transfer, agent, player fees and salary. Either we refer to what's officially stated for a transfer when talking about it or we can just come up with any number we like, 180m for Sancho.
What do you mean we paid 348m for Sancho?

(This is actually fun, because there obviously no reason apart from under the table payments that anyone would want to join City...amirite?)
 

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Haaland is a really good player. I think we may have to get used to City winning the league consecutively for 3 to 5 years.
 

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What do you mean we paid 348m for Sancho?

(This is actually fun, because there obviously no reason apart from under the table payments that anyone would want to join City...amirite?)
Don’t you mean Pepe? Sancho signed for Man Utd. Arsenal signed Pepe for a similar fee.
 

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I'm pretty sure City have just won next season's Premier League...
 

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Interesting that City are changing their recruitment strategy, especially when you consider most big transfers ultimately fail. Will also be interesting to see how Haaland fits into a Pep system, as it feels they're going down the United path of signing the best possible players available without any regard as to how they will fit them into the system.

Part of me hopes this is the beginning to the downfall, like when United went and signed Lukaku, Pogba etc and ruined the dressing room and wage structure, but I'm fairly sure Haaland will be some sort of success. Going to be really difficult to throw excuses out next season when they don't win the CL again after spending £200m on a striker.
Seeing how Haaland adapts to Pep's system certainly is going to be fascinating. You could make a case either way really. On the one hand, he won't get much running into space on quick transitions if City continues to play the same way, and he doesn't do a huge amount of passing and link-up play. On the other hand, perhaps Pep will adjust to take more advantage of his deep runs, and Haaland does have a knack for gifted movement, also in confined spaces. He'd be a more obvious fit for Liverpool, maybe?
 

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of course it's not, but as Crossy say's it's about £200m including 5 years salary, so £40m a season, considering it was reporting it was going to be around £350m for 5 years it's still a good deal, for context Rudiger at 29 is going to Madrid on a free, but it's not really, all reported costs and wages are close to £100m
Nah...the cost for Haaland is £2 billion. The rest of the money is given to Haaland's family in cash put under his bed. Man City bought success..blah blah blah. it is money, money, money.
 

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The only way this doesn’t bother me is if we sign Nunez… it will kind of soften the blow a little. Don’t get me wrong haaland is probably miles ahead but Nunez can just be as good and he’s still very young.
 

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Do we really have to suffer with a thread of him now that’s he’s at City. :(
I really don’t want to read after watching MOTD of how well the Cnut plays. Fortunately we have a ignore button.:lol:
 

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Both clubs paid whatever the other club was willing to sell for. I fail to see why people get so hung up on it. Not like the other half has been off to Harrods and maxed the credit card...
That’s just bollocks. We paid 80 million for a dud.That doesn’t concern you?
 

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In the past 14 years united owners took 1.5 billion out of the club in dividends and to pay their debts. City owners pumped 2 billions into the club at the same time. You must be very silly or ignorant to say a gap of 3.5 billion will not show. Do you understand what 3.5 billions mean?
The kicker is it was our status that made them a more attractive buy than Everton. Instead of their "jelly and ice cream" s***e directed toward Fergie they should really be thanking him. When their supporters were in literal tears because in a season they achieved 100 points they didn't win the title against us, it put into perspective how far away they are from their rivalry with us being on mutual grounds as ours is with Liverpool. Our mere existence raises their ire, while we'd rather see them win another 10 leagues than Liverpool win one more.
 

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Seeing how Haaland adapts to Pep's system certainly is going to be fascinating. You could make a case either way really. On the one hand, he won't get much running into space on quick transitions if City continues to play the same way, and he doesn't do a huge amount of passing and link-up play. On the other hand, perhaps Pep will adjust to take more advantage of his deep runs, and Haaland does have a knack for gifted movement, also in confined spaces. He'd be a more obvious fit for Liverpool, maybe?
Yeah exactly, that’s what I was thinking also. Feels like there could be shades of Grealish about this move or he could completely smash it.
 

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In that case, let's not believe any transfers stated from now on. Maybe we paid 200m for Maquire combined fee's from transfer, agent, player fees and salary. Either we refer to what's officially stated for a transfer when talking about it or we can just come up with any number we like, 180m for Sancho.
I would say that's a good starting point.
 

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Unless every team plans on just putting 10 men in the box, he will have space to run behind the defensive line.

I get the idea of the uncertainty about where he fits in, but this ist nearly the problem its being made out to be. I mean I hope it will be, but thats praying for a bit much. The player thrived against all "top tier" teams in the CL and they werent giving anything away, I dont think it will be different against Leicester and Fulham.

City tends to be really good at breaking down essentially every teams defense. The difference is that they have a striker to cross to who will get first to the ball if the run with the defender is even.

I do like the already active shitjournalism though: http://sportwitness.co.uk/haaland-s...ty-dressing-room-timing-announcement-problem/

The French outlet explain the numbers that have been reported in the press about Haaland’s wages have annoyed more than one in Pep Guardiola’s squad, including some described as ‘loyal’ to the Spanish manager, as they now feel ‘less valued than the new recruit and aren’t hesitating to make it known’.

Unless you are rated as a legitimate generational talent, why even speak up, no one in that club doesnt earn bank.
 

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I think anyone that truly believes City are paying only £50m for Haaland are off their heads. It’s widely reported how much fees were during the move to Dortmund along with the insistence of a release clause. Both these factors put United off going for him (confirmed by Dortmund CEO).

Does anyone think these fees will suddenly now be non existent? Or given the success he’s had that they have actually sky rocketed? It’s obviously the latter. Ultimately this was one of the reasons a minimum release was inserted to ensure he could move on from Dortmund and maximise what he and his family made from a future deal.
Has anyone said they believe that? I think you would have to be very comfortable living under a rock if you arent aware agent fees and a sign on bonus doesnt factor into the transfer fee itself which is the actual release clause. Every other cost is something else.

What Dortmund has stated is that without the release clause, Haaland would have signed for Manchester United. As it stands, even a future transfer is completely out of the question.
 

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In the past 14 years united owners took 1.5 billion out of the club in dividends and to pay their debts. City owners pumped 2 billions into the club at the same time. You must be very silly or ignorant to say a gap of 3.5 billion will not show. Do you understand what 3.5 billions mean?
This is silly. The Glazers being able to take out 1.5B while the club continue to spend big on players is because of Utd's power as a financial institution, something that City don't have to that level. Glazers taking money out of the club is irrelevant. Even if they didn't and they gave it to Utd to spend instead, why would you think the results would be any different? We literally have 0 trophies from the past 5 years.

I think pretty much nobody spent more than Utd on the planet since 2013 and City have a very similar number.

People can make the case also that Pep replaced defenders like you replace your socks, so easily done without thought. Yeah that's true but they still spent wayyyyy better than we did overall. We don't have to compare ourselves to City here, we did so badly we made ourselves look like mugs.
 

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This is silly. The Glazers being able to take out 1.5B while the club continue to spend big on players is because of Utd's power as a financial institution, something that City don't have to that level. Glazers taking money out of the club is irrelevant. Even if they didn't and they gave it to Utd to spend instead, why would you think the results would be any different? We literally have 0 trophies from the past 5 years.

I think pretty much nobody spent more than Utd on the planet since 2013 and City have a very similar number.

People can make the case also that Pep replaced defenders like you replace your socks, so easily done without thought. Yeah that's true but they still spent wayyyyy better than we did overall. We don't have to compare ourselves to City here, we did so badly we made ourselves look like mugs.
It is like the club is only transfer windows since 2014. Well football did not start 2014 and football is not just transfer money. City as a club is ahead of us on every aspect and that is because of the money they spent since 2009 not 2014. I swear people don't even bother to read the numbers correctly. Do you think a difference of 3.5 billions in investment from both owners is not enough to show in the long run?
 

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How dare you. I'll have you know City were an established PL team for all of 5 minutes before they were taken over by a State. If Abu Dhabi hadn't come along i'm sure there would have been a slew of other trillionaires willing to spend their cash on Ardwicks biggest club. It's a well known fact that the likes of Aguero & Guardiola dreamed of nothing more than joining the pantheon of legends such as Goater & Pearce.
And Kinkladze. That's their 'holy' trinity.
 

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Anyone think he'll flop?
Very unlikely. He will probably score a lot less goals where he just bulldozer his way but he will still gets 20/25 with the cast behind him.