Music Kendrick Lamar | New album 13th May 2022
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Totally Honestly Un-Gangsta Life
Tupac went to ballet as a kid. 
I mean you will be in for a huge shock if you really believe what nearly all rappers say in their songs to be what they do in real life. The only one who I can think of that has some sort of claiming of really living that life was Eazy E.
But that's OK, a bit of variation and touching on different subjects is a good thing. If you watch the music video of 2 of Americaz most wanted it was just a amplified/dramatised version of what Snoop and Pac went through with their court cases. But for every gangster type song you had a only good can judge me or wonday why they call you B song on the album.
Tupac wrote Keep Ya Head Up, Brenda's Got a Baby, Dear Mama and Do 4 Love. He is solidified off of those 4 songs alone.
People here really calling Pac overrated? Ffs.
Go back to the Harry Maguire thread.
Go back to the Harry Maguire thread.
Bit off topic now surely.
Thats everyones favourite word these days
Was 2pac a Pep Guardiola is my idol?
Agree, maybe move the Pac stuff to the hip hop thread?
Kendricks discography is better than BIGs though
You could maybe argue on the influence point with regard to biggies impact but I'd have no problem putting kendrick above him in an all time list at this point . BIG is very much the one that got away in my mind, such tremendous ability taken so early in his career.
His early stuff was by far his best I only have a problem with his output at death row when he tried to be a gangsta which didn't suit him or his best flow.
Again it's just people's opinions but for a guy and it's the same as Biggie who are always rated on top five lists they are both very much overrated.
Would either Pac Or Biggie be doing what Nas is now with Hitboy turning out classics and moving with the times?
I seriously doubt it. Their legacy is based as much on the lives they lived and how they died as much as it is through their music.
Kendrick has a much better collection of work to his name than both Biggie and Pac
Disagree with this, both were pretty versatile and able to touch on multiple subjects (more so Tupac in this respect), this was proven in their short careers. With Tupac, every album he put out was a different style/subject matter. Think they would have adapted just fine. But I think Tupac would have quit rapping as he got older anyway, he preferred acting.
And BTW guys like Kendrick and Cole are offshoots of parts Tupac's style most modern rappers don't deny they have been influenced by him.
Issue with some posters is this is their bible.
Jokes on them I listen to MM…Food sometimes.Issue with some posters is this is their bible.
Leave @Moby alone!Issue with some posters is this is their bible.
Sees opinion disagrees with...posts nonsense meme to discredit it. Nice one. I do wish people could disagree with other people's opinions like adults...Issue with some posters is this is their bible.
Love how whoever had time to assemble that mosaic didn't have time to spellcheck it.
Issue with some posters is this is their bible.
Most modern fans I know like my lil nephew for example think Drake is old school which at least means they don't like him I guess they have never heard of Nas or Illmatic which kills me and only listen to Travis or Lil Uzi Vert.
I try and be happy they are kinda listening to hip hop even if it's terrible but hard to not die inside.
I mean the opposite could also be done with people who are a "90s hip hop head" too.Issue with some posters is this is their bible.
Never heard of him, is he any good?
Gonna listen to some songs of his tonight. He better be fecking good with all the shite ye talk.
He rhymed "cool" with "school" so he's special.
I’m a fan of Nas and have been to see him live, but this is nonsense. Nas hasn’t turned out a classic since Illmatic.
Like for the first time ever?
He's not someone you can just pick up and listen to a few tracks, you have to listen to his albums as whole to really appreciate his work. Imo this is one of his limitations. Some of his music is quite polarising too, you'll find opinions on both ends of the spectrum.
You must not like his style of rap, imo he has yet to put a bad album out. As for classic this is subjective but imo it was written and KD2 are for me.
Yeah, imagine randomly listening to "For Free" or "u" from TPAB for the first time with no context. You'd be completely lost.
You don't consider it was written a classic?
Classic is thrown out way to easily in hip hop.
The consensus seems to have changed with his discography. Originally there was disappointment when It Was Written was released as it wasn’t as good as Illmatic. He then followed it up with two poor albums before coming back with what I consider a classic, Stillmatic.
IWW going by old source ratings would be 4.5/5. Just below a classic but still great.
That's fair enough. It is hard to follow up Illmatic though. Arguably it is a perfect album and it was I believe the first album across genres to have lots of different producers on the album whereas everyone else had one producer one album. But for me had he never released Illmatic, IWW would be considered a classic. It's just that can't really ever beat Illmatic. Off topic but for me the only rapper I can think of off the top of my head who produced a classic in their first album and then produced another is Jay Z (Reasonable Doubt ---> 4:44) but I recognise that's an unpopular opinion.
I would agree Jay-Z might have done it, but with Blueprint instead of 4:44.
Dre also maybe.
Noone else imo. And those two are just maybies
Did you read the first part of my post? I've been listening to Nas for over 20 years and consider him to be one of the best. However, I wouldn't kid myself into saying that he has more than one classic album.Nope. Decent album, but far from a classic.
Anyway, this has gone a bit off-topic so I'll leave it there. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Ghostface did it with Ironman and Supreme Clientele tbf
As did the guy this thread is supposed to be about with GKMC & TPAB
Great great great albums, only one (Good Kid) classic imo.
Then again i feel like beeing classic is to easy in hip hop. If its a classic it should not really be debateble.
Of course, ATLiens-Aquemini is
. ATLiens still remains my favourite ever album.