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I think you need a lot more speed or a lot bigger object for the kinetic energy to really be a problem, right? You don't make something go 3500mph and then not put anything on it, I think.
I’m not saying you don’t put a warhead on it, I’m just saying 10,000lbs at 3500mph would feck a lot of shit up all on its own.
 

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I've always believed in MAD... :nervous:
MAD applies regardless of hypersonic missiles, not least because no amount of these is going to hit even one of the nuclear-launch-capable submarines when it can't find them.
 

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Whether true or not (and some people in the thread vouch for the guy), it's an interesting read:

 

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Whether true or not (and some people in the thread vouch for the guy), it's an interesting read:

Gosh I actually think this is legitimate based on who's vouching for him. The guy who is vouching for him is confirmed to be sending drones and other equipment to verified soldiers like James Vasquez (@jmvasquez1974). Also some prominent people are following this account, in contrast to what I've seen with some other fake accounts.
 

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Actually unreal how Russia's invasion has emboldened its neighbours against it. Literally the exact opposite of what was supposed to happen.
They were doing a good job behind the scenes before the war, causing havoc internally. Without the war, maybe Le Pen would've given Macron more of a run for his money, have Trump pushed again in couple of years time, Nord stream 2 would've tightened the screw around german balls. Fruits of Putins 20+ year reign are being undone in a matter of months, perhaps, he was always going for this endgame, and now just felt with himself getting on, his time to seize glory was running out, and he didn't want the next guy taking all the credit.
 

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I don't know how this will end but as of now, Putin is having a disasterclass.
 

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The entire mythos of a "powerful Russian military" has been completely wiped away. The only thing they have left is nukes and if they use them, there's not going to be a Russia anymore. Putin's regime only remains viable because of nukes and all the invasion did was reaffirm that they truly are the backwater of Europe.

Russia's influence over non-Nato states ceased the minute the tank that is now scrap metal crossed the border. A weak, wounded angry man that has deluded his population into madness and clings to power by hovering his finger over a big red button.
 

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Just read about the ukranians being forcibly deported to russia, grim read, hopefully someone' keeping track of this and they can be found when the war is over. I knew it was happening but had no idea of the numbers.
Yeah, there’s a net of volunteers that are helping them at the moment, including helping them move towards Europe or settle in in Russia (surprisingly, some prefer to do it, especially if they have relatives somewhere, although it’s obviously a minority by far).

The scariest thing is the “filtration” that happens when they cross the border the first time — because we don’t really know what happens with those who fail it. Some were found in Russian prisons, I believe, but there are certainly Nazi vibes about that whole procedure and I’d fear for the worst.
 

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No, because as I've already said, no one thinks that NATO would even remotely consider invading a nuclear-armed Russia.

If Russia has the right, in your eyes, to invade Ukraine because it's on the Russian border and Russia doesn't like Ukraine's west-ward leanings, then presumably you also think that Finland has the right to invade Russia ... because it too has a border with Russia and doesn't like Russia..

feck the Monroe doctrine - I'm not here to defend some 19th century BS. There are zero excuses for Russia's actions in Ukraine.
I agree. We know why they did it. but its unjustified.
 

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Yeah, there’s a net of volunteers that are helping them at the moment, including helping them move towards Europe or settle in in Russia (surprisingly, some prefer to do it, especially if they have relatives somewhere, although it’s obviously a minority by far).

The scariest thing is the “filtration” that happens when they cross the border the first time — because we don’t really know what happens with those who fail it. Some were found in Russian prisons, I believe, but there are certainly Nazi vibes about that whole procedure and I’d fear for the worst.
Could anyone doubt they're killing all the people they don't like that they take? I don't.
 

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Anyone wanna see Finland get their WWII land back?
 
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Isn't this a remarkable lack of discipline? Depending on the level of detail and accuracy, couldn't this kind of information potentially be used for artillery strikes on areas with high concentration?
 

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Isn't this a remarkable lack of discipline? Depending on the level of detail and accuracy, couldn't this kind of information potentially be used for artillery strikes on areas with high concentration?
Aye there's clearly little disapline there. They could try to confiscate the phones but most troops will know they are never getting it back so...
 

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I know British paras have to hand their phones in before embarkation, even in peacetime.
I mean even if there is no base station to connect to, the gsm is always trying to broadcast and find one, at a higher power than nominal. Its very easily detectable from the air.
 

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Isn't this a remarkable lack of discipline? Depending on the level of detail and accuracy, couldn't this kind of information potentially be used for artillery strikes on areas with high concentration?
Some units could still be more disciplined than others, so the map might not be as useful as you think.