Liverpool's inevitable q̶u̶a̶d̶r̶u̶p̶l̶e̶ tr̶i̶p̶l̶e̶ dibble/ The Hala Madrid Thread

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The title of this thread is extremely presumptuous.
I highly doubt they'll win all 4.
 

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I can bet any money on here that City lose to West Ham tomorrow, thus knocking United into the ECL and Liverpool into pole position for the title. They’ll then give Southampton their annual 9-0 thrashing, before Gerrard contributes positively to a Liverpool title challenge for the first time by holding City on the final day, allowing Liverpool to drop points to Wolves and still win the league.
Christ, that’s depressing.
 

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What this awful season is proving is how bloody fit they are. Their fitness and nutritionists must be off the charts. They’ve got to both domestic cup finals playing 120 mins in both, and have a CL final to come. It’s quite ridiculous that they aren’t coming up short physically but no signs. Imagine putting one of our squad in theirs purely to compare fitness levels. When will this season end.
I thought most looked dead on their feet during extra time. Let’s see how they recover for the next matches
 

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Did he forget to credit the fortune teller he also consulted?

Klopp is losing it, seriously.

That said, I am getting a sense this FA Cup is the last trophy they win this season. No EPL title and no UCL. Quadruple my arse.
Why is he losing it based on that?
 

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Side point but it's interesting that they brought in outsider neuroscientists like that. Previous tweets about them:


This alongside that other example of them having a throw in coach shows why we are so far behind them. At the top level it's the really small margins that make the difference. They are looking at innovative ways to stay ahead.
 

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Did he forget to credit the fortune teller he also consulted?

Klopp is losing it, seriously.

That said, I am getting a sense this FA Cup is the last trophy they win this season. No EPL title and no UCL. Quadruple my arse.
So..... you're getting 'a sense' that this is the last trophy they win but not you're crediting the 'other' fortune teller Klopp should have credited for consulting?

For fecks sake we gotta stop with this bollox it's degrading.....do people not realize that unfriendly eyes are looking on?
 

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Why is he losing it based on that?
Thanking neuroscientists for the win is nuts :) Penalties are basically a gamble. Many things can tip the odds in your favor, one of them could have been whatever voodoo they did or didn't do but overblowing it is nuts
 

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So..... you're getting 'a sense' that this is the last trophy they win but not you're crediting the 'other' fortune teller Klopp should have credited for consulting?

For fecks sake we gotta stop with this bollox it's degrading.....do people not realize that unfriendly eyes are looking on?
Based on my thorough analysis of the facts (no fortune telling) I am certain they are not winning EPL and I say it is 80% odds that with current injuries they are not winning UCL

Better?
 

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Thanking neuroscientists for the win is nuts :) Penalties are basically a gamble. Many things can tip the odds in your favor, one of them could have been whatever voodoo they did or didn't do but overblowing it is nuts
It's not a gamble. Kick hard to one corner perfectly your penalty can not be stopped by mortal goal keeper.

Takers that trains harder and mentally more prepared gets the score. It's hardly a gamble
 

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They'll win two. City will win the league from here and Madrid will win the Champions League. They've got the luxury of resting their best players and Liverpool are running on fumes.
 

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I actually think this is going to happen. City draw tomorrow and its the nightmare scenario gets very very real.
You think City needing to beat Villa at home to win the league would fail to do so?
 

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The love for Man City baffles me , how the mighty have fallen eh , wouldn’t you rather a team that does things right win even though it would be 20
There's no love for City here, but I don't think anyone but Liverpool fans want the Scousers to win the quadruple as the noise would be unbearable. Plus, we have a league title record to protect.

What is your interpretation of 'doing things right' btw?
 
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Thanking neuroscientists for the win is nuts :) Penalties are basically a gamble. Many things can tip the odds in your favor, one of them could have been whatever voodoo they did or didn't do but overblowing it is nuts
I never understand people saying its a gamble or lottery.
Its like most things to do with the game, the more you work on it, at anyway, the more chance you will succeed.

They picked the right order clearly, if that is what happened.
 

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The love for Man City baffles me , how the mighty have fallen eh , wouldn’t you rather a team that does things right win even though it would be 20
Couldn't agree with this more.

Principles get chucked out of the window far too easily when it comes to the exploits of Liverpool. They were in the wilderness for the best part of 30 years. Yet, the majority of Utd fans are still praying to their Gods that City, a club backed exclusively by a corrupt, human rights ignoring regime, win everything instead.
 

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This alongside that other example of them having a throw in coach shows why we are so far behind them. At the top level it's the really small margins that make the difference. They are looking at innovative ways to stay ahead.
Tbh most managers do this now. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Case in point, Big Sam and Wenger.
 

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The love for Man City baffles me , how the mighty have fallen eh , wouldn’t you rather a team that does things right win even though it would be 20
It's not a love in. It's a lesser of two evils. As Neville said a while ago, it's like picking a new bloke for your wife

Ideal scenario if not United would be a different team but between these 2, City winning a league is a better option

Let's put it the other way around, how many Liverpool fans do you think would be championing us on if roles were reversed?
 

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Side point but it's interesting that they brought in outsider neuroscientists like that. Previous tweets about them:
Half of the job in a penalty shootout is to prevent the other team from scoring and Liverpool did terribly at this over two shootouts. Hard to take this narrative seriously.
 

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They'll win two. City will win the league from here and Madrid will win the Champions League. They've got the luxury of resting their best players and Liverpool are running on fumes.
It’s a weird situation. If City win today, title is done and Klopp will rest all his players until the CL final in 2 weeks.

If City drop points, then Klopp will field strong teams in the last 2 league games, which will make them more vulnerable for the CL final.

So the ideal scenario would be City to draw today, then beat Villa on the last day. That way it keeps Klopp playing his strong team upto the last day game.

Or maybe City just get the job done today, so we can all relax and enjoy the last day of the season without this nightmare scenario of them wining this Quadruple!
 

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It’s a weird situation. If City win today, title is done and Klopp will rest all his players until the CL final in 2 weeks.

If City drop points, then Klopp will field strong teams in the last 2 league games, which will make them more vulnerable for the CL final.

So the ideal scenario would be City to draw today, then beat Villa on the last day. That way it keeps Klopp playing his strong team upto the last day game.

Or maybe City just get the job done today, so we can all relax and enjoy the last day of the season without this nightmare scenario of them wining this Quadruple!
Can’t be won today. City would have +8 GD but a loss to villa could do it if they hammer Southampton and wolves.
 

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Half of the job in a penalty shootout is to prevent the other team from scoring and Liverpool did terribly at this over two shootouts. Hard to take this narrative seriously.
But they won. I remember them scoring a grand total of 1 goal in Klopp's first league cup final shootout. I don't think that's happened since.

In any case, the effect of this company may well be just placebo. But I admire them doing extra things like this and the throw in coach that could possibly boost the players mentally just that little bit when it really matters.

Plus over time, it'll become a self-fulfilling cycle. They and the media will repeatedly glorify a few select victorious shootouts and important goals that came from throw ins and there you have the story , "Liverpool are at the cutting edge of football, statistics, astrophysics and whatever".
 

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I saw comments from some Liverpool fans (though surely they’re part of a very small minority), who want Klopp and the team to go all out in the final 2 league games, even if City win today.

To me that would be madness, with Paris on the horizon and given the huge number of games they’ve played this season.
 

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Couldn't agree with this more.

Principles get chucked out of the window far too easily when it comes to the exploits of Liverpool. They were in the wilderness for the best part of 30 years. Yet, the majority of Utd fans are still praying to their Gods that City, a club backed exclusively by a corrupt, human rights ignoring regime, win everything instead.
As a Liverpool fan watching utd win what felt like everything under Fergie it was mighty painful believe me but I admired what you were doing so much , I don’t have an ounce of respect for anything city do because of how they have cooked the books so to speak
 

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Moyes to grab a point today and then all eyes on Gerrard next week. That is the plot every journalist wants to write about and Sky wants to show.
 

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Couldn't agree with this more.

Principles get chucked out of the window far too easily when it comes to the exploits of Liverpool. They were in the wilderness for the best part of 30 years. Yet, the majority of Utd fans are still praying to their Gods that City, a club backed exclusively by a corrupt, human rights ignoring regime, win everything instead.
Curiously, where are you from?
 

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It's an horrific situation as a football fan, reality is the money invested into City over the last ten years has been insane, unacceptable in my opinion. Football is about being competitive, being fair, each club spending what they've earned in the hope their manager can spring on a team capable of great things.

Think of Forest, Leicester, Everton in the 80's.

City have ripped up the rule book in my opinion, they can afford to buyer a player for 100 million and not actually worry about whether he will be a success as they can just replace him without a single worry about sell on value or the balance books. That for me isn't a fair field.

Liverpool and Klopp have actually given the City owners something to hide behind, without them the whole league would be hating City and their money. Liverpool have done things the correct way, they sold well and invested brilliantly and as much as I dislike him they have the best manager on the planet by far in my opinion.

All that being said I've hated Liverpool all my life, I'd still want the money of City to win it every time over them.

Just a horrible situation really.
 

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Moyes to grab a point today and then all eyes on Gerrard next week. That is the plot every journalist wants to write about and Sky wants to show.
Nah City are just going to hammer them today and Villa next week. They are in a different class at the moment where everything is coming off. If Grealish kicks on next year and with Haaland coming in I would say its the easiest bet next year for City to win 2 or more trophies.
 

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I forgot they won the League Cup. Also by defeating Chelsea.
 

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C'mon City for fecks sake, beat West Ham today and put it almost beyond reach for the scousers.

The most points Liverpool can get is 92 and City can go to that today with a GD at least 8 higher. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Southampton ship about 10 vs. the scousers on Tuesday.
 

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Absolutely enormous game today. The league is really for me the biggest one. It can either give them the quadruple or keep it at the CL and two others (not really the treble). If City lose today then there's every chance of it happening. Need City bagging a point today.
 

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You think City needing to beat Villa at home to win the league would fail to do so?
I think its possible. Unlikely but possible. Pressure on the last day can do funny things and you have the Gerrard angle to things too. I really hope they beat West Ham today. Going to the last day means something crazy could happen. Which is what you need to happen if you are going to win a quadruple or treble.