How wonderfully pro-life and Christian.
19 children and 2 teachers killed in Texas school shooting (24 May 2022)
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It wouldn't be too difficult to say that you have to be over 25 (or whatever) to buy one of these powerful rifles. It would stop these kids buying them legally.
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Literally like something from a nightmare.
I think we’ll eventually see the US split into two separate countries. The pro-life, pro-gun southern states and then the rest.
Seems like it. To be honest i was about to post a comment/question. On where this all built up situation with US is going to lead them as a country. I can taste it in every comment yearning for solutions that seems that are not going anywhere but even getting worse. Of course on my political spectrum way of thinking (non GOP)
We could see the first signs with the 2016-2020 Trump stint that finish with an unthinkable insurrection(?). There is an obvious fraction on 2 ways of thinking
And trump will at least stir the shit pot in 2024 and if he wins, that might be the downfall as i dont know if the democratic institutions will be able to hold the legitimacy of his second coming
Which is US future? Looks very grim atm
And is a reflection on the many changes the the world in turmoil
In bits watching that. Fecking hell.
So apparently the police not only unsuccessfully encountered the shooter before he went into school, they lied about the shooter wearing protection and then went on to wait an hour before backup arrived. In front of a school. Where there was a murderous rampage going on. They just sat there, with their guns, their training and waited for guys with even bigger guns and more training. For an hour. While children were being killed.
While these policemen sat outside and did nothing, multiple teachers gave their lives, trying to protect the children. They were unarmed and untrained.
The disgust I feel for these policemen can’t be put into words. Unwilling to deal with a single 18 year old guy, while children are dying.
I don’t think I’ve ever read about a more severe and terrible instance of cowardice than this. Every single one of those officers should go to jail. Imagine becoming a police officer and literally refusing to engage with someone killing children.
While these policemen sat outside and did nothing, multiple teachers gave their lives, trying to protect the children. They were unarmed and untrained.
The disgust I feel for these policemen can’t be put into words. Unwilling to deal with a single 18 year old guy, while children are dying.
I don’t think I’ve ever read about a more severe and terrible instance of cowardice than this. Every single one of those officers should go to jail. Imagine becoming a police officer and literally refusing to engage with someone killing children.
So teachers should be armed and trained with bigger guns?... Or at least that is what the NRA will tell us along with a few lets go Brandons and USA USA USA
Yes it looks that way and apparently people were begging for them to go in. This is in contrast to firefighters like the ones in 9/11 who went into a burning building and do so many times with no hesitation. They chose their profession and they should live with the fact that they might have to be in serious harms way to save lives. It’s their job.
It's like a nightmarish satire show.
If you asked most people in other countries "what do you think about this as an idea?", they'd look at you like you're an idiot or laugh/assume it's a dark joke.
But in America, it's now only allowed, the "best" judges in the land majority agree with it.
I always knew it but the last couple of days, comments, additional things I've learned about America, etc have confirmed it. You're fecked.
Not as a major power or a country that can create and drive new ideas (you'll always have that because they bring power and wealth... the important things) but in terms of basic common sense principles and how the country is politically and legally run. Again, like a bad satire... but reality.
Cowards. A sad bunch of complete and utter cowards. I hope they’ll get shamed every day of their lives until their cowardice is finally ended by death.
Similar cowardice was on display at Parkland too by one or two initial cops on the scene.
It is also in contrast to the north Hollywood shooting when the police were without body armor and with pistols against two fully armored from top to bottom with ak 47 with drum like magazines that could hold hundreds of rounds . And still engaged them, suffering many casualties (but somehow no fatalities)
Well there you go. You had good guys with guns and they did nothing.
I know where you're coming from, you're trying to be realistic and know that if anything is going to happen, it'll probably need small steps.
I just think 'ban them entirely unless used at a gun range, under supervision, with the ranges guns only which stay there'.
Why the feck would anyone want/need an assault rifle unless in the army, police, etc?
For most non Americans to understand the American desire to have guns, it's pretty much impossible because our brains just won't compute it. Must be heartbreaking to live there, want gun change and know it's almost certainly not going to happen and these tragedies are going to continue.
Obviously not enough. You need toddlers with guns next. After that, special guns for newborns. Pro life.
Come on now. They didn't sign up for this. They expected to spend their days issuing traffic fines, playing with tasers, and shooting at unarmed black kids. Charging in to take down an equally well armed perpetrator isn't in the brief.
What I can't understand is the gun lobby. Is it really that big of an industry in a $21 trillion economy. How does it wield so much power?
Don't think he means that.
Here’s a good article posted yesterday that quantifies it…
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...nited-states-gun-lobby-and-how-powerful-is-it
I don’t think @sun_tzu is saying he is, he’s just (correctly) stating what the right is gonna push for now. Multiple politicians have already started saying teachers should be armed, it’s on social media all over, hell, high school students are even saying teachers should be armed.
This was EXTREMELY hard to watch. Anyone that can watch this and still think gun control isn’t necessary is just heartless.
That kind of further supports my question. Gun lobby groups spent $170m on lobbying and $155m on other support. Whilst big numbers to you or me, they'd be little more than rounding errors on the accounts of an Amazon or a Facebook. So i still don't understand how they have the US government so bent over a barrel when they represent such a tiny portion of US industry.
Any info on how the shooter got his gun?
Isn't it more a voter thing than a lobbying thing? Aren't gun folks a powerful voting bloc?
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Just to be clear, the police locked the gunman in the school with the children inside it and then spent an hour stopping parents from going inside to save their babies.
By locking him in the school with the children, they were protecting themselves from the gunman at the expense of the tiny children and their teachers.
By locking him in the school with the children, they were protecting themselves from the gunman at the expense of the tiny children and their teachers.
You have to combine the money spent with the understanding of how ingrained 2A is in the minds of voters. I imagine a large company like Amazon, who benefits financially from gun rights voters using their service, takes that into consideration.
Purchased legally
That would be madness. One teacher on the point of a nervous breakdown, with a gun, in a classroom full of kids/students. The only people who should have guns are the ones who need them in their work, armed forces, police and the like of park rangers for peoples safety.
And by preventing others from intervening, they actively helped the shooter.
I couldn't finish watching.
Agreed. But I can guarantee that’ll be what you see talked about from conservatives.
I know. I am waiting for instead of baby showers people throwing gun showers and babies being well armed before they are even born.
Btw guys, since 1997 the USA has banned Kinder Suprise Eggs (the ones with the toys in it; other kinder chocolate products are allowed) and the importation of Kinder Suprise Eggs…
…because of the choking hazard that it poses to children. You cannot make this up.
…because of the choking hazard that it poses to children. You cannot make this up.
https://freedomalleyshootingsports....in-the-baby-shower-with-tacticalbabygear-com/
well that was a short wait
Agreed. We need someone with a crap ton of money (instead of using it to buy twitter) to go after all of the staunch amendment 2 politicians, the ones unwilling to do anything to restrict gun purchases.
I think I would go along with this. Start with the teachers of the children of these brave politicians that have suggested this and lets see what they say then.