This is a whole level of cowardice I've never seen.
19 children and 2 teachers killed in Texas school shooting (24 May 2022)
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It’s a topic in the Cops in America thread
Beyond grim.
”The widower of a Texas elementary school teacher killed in a shooting has died of a heart attack days just days after his wife was killed.
Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, suffered a fatal heart attack on Thursday, two days after his wife died in a mass shooting at the Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas”
https://abcnews.go.com/US/widower-teacher-slain-texas-elementary-school-dies-heart/story?id=85000519
”The widower of a Texas elementary school teacher killed in a shooting has died of a heart attack days just days after his wife was killed.
Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, suffered a fatal heart attack on Thursday, two days after his wife died in a mass shooting at the Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas”
https://abcnews.go.com/US/widower-teacher-slain-texas-elementary-school-dies-heart/story?id=85000519
I saw this today. I guess you can die from a broken heart.
The right wing in America has, for decades, introduced a mentality that essentially treats the US Constitution like an infallible religious text. Of course, that depends on their interpretation, but they spin it like their interpretation is "originalism" and that is the only valid view.
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Even if that's true, even if say, ranchers use the to chase off predators attacking their livestock, couldn't he say "there are use cases for weapons like that for ranchers and we should look into having specialty licenses for ranchers with a work need for them that includes proper training and accountability for the weapon." Instead, he goes to the "rights" trope. What a feck head.
Not to mention, the type of AR constantly used in these shootings is the one chambered in the barely recoiling 5.56 NATO (.223 caliber) round.
AR platforms for feral hogs are firing .30 and .40 caliber rounds and hold 10 bullets per magazine. It’s apples to oranges but he knows the average reporter won’t know that.
Edit - not to mention, you don’t “need” an AR for feral hogs. I’ve hunted them with lever and bolt action rifles and have done just fine.
Un-fcken-real
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The AR is a rifle. Quite a lot like other gas operated semi-automatic rifles out there as far as function goes. The destructive power of a firearm is generally down to the cartridge. The average AR round doesn't rank that high. It produces very high muzzle velocity but the projectile is on the lighter side meaning its muzzle energy is on the lower end of things. At short range the energy generated is relatively redundant and the more important factor in destructiveness for the AR platform becomes the 30 round magazine.
Border guard was off duty as well.
From a couple of years ago. Sammy J is a comedian who uses this character for comedy (normally) but made this in response to a terrorist attack a couple of years ago. Nothing about gun control but worth a watch imo.
Oh, and it gets even better (sarcasm intended).
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That is ABYSMAL. It's worse than the entire Manchester United team this season when it comes to downing tools. Sack the whole lot.
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All Cats Are Beautiful.
I don't think sacking is any kind of justice. They should be prosecuted. The policemen, by refusing to perform their primary duty, have become accomplices in the mass murder.
I'm sure the victims' relatives will take those policemen to court. But all identifiable officers who did nothing should be immediately sacked from the police department before they get struck by further prosecutions on charges of being accomplices to mass murder.
It's human nature to want to protect the weak and vulnerable. It's inexcusable when your job description is to built on protecting and yet you do nothing. That 40 minutes must have felt like an eternity for those children. That was pure undeserving hell and nobody especially children, should ever have to endure that.
The unions and their lawyers will already be working overtime to remove key evidence and ensure than none of them get any kind of punishment. Some of them maybe awarded for what they did as well
In 2005, Jessica Gonzales sued Castle Rock, Colorado police for failing to arrest her husband, who had violated a protective order, resulting in the murder of her three children. Her case went to the U.S. Supreme Court in The Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales, where she lost because even though the order required arresting her husband upon violation, then-Justice Antonin Scalia successfully argued that “a well-established tradition of police discretion has long coexisted with apparently mandatory arrest statutes.”
This case builds upon Supreme Court precedent in Deshaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services (1989). In that case, a young boy was repeatedly abused at the hands of his father, something that county Social Services was aware of, but made no effort to remove the child. His mother sued once the four-year old entered a vegetative state, and the Court ruled that that the state did not have a special obligation to protect a citizen against harms it did not create.
Based on these precedents, Lozito was told in the New York City case that “no direct promises of protection were made” to him, and therefore he could not sue the police for failing to come to his aid. In other words, the police do not have to act if someone is actively being harmed, they do not have to arrest someone who has violated orders, and they do not have any obligation to protect you from others.
People are still expected to call the police, and many still do, especially given the lack of alternatives. But to criticize their effectiveness in solving crimes in the aftermath furthers the propaganda: It assumes that the police are acting in the interest of the public, when there is no precedent that says that they have to.
https://prospect.org/justice/police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-public/
Great!!!
I'm alright Jack, feck everyone else.... The exact same line of thinking that goes against social benefit systems and Universal Healthcare ...
It's the American way.
Absolutely disgusting. Then cops should simply not take the oath of service unless (and until) they understand what it actually means.
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The highest court in the land thought they are doing marvelously.
America is fecked. It will devolve into a fascistic theocracy, or a barren wasteland in perpetual civil war, there’s no fixing this.
Wouldn't making it cost deterrent be against the 2nd amendment?
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Not really as the are lots of weapons that cost more and it wouldn't effect the sales of other firearms but it would be labelled as that by the nra and politicians so would never happen.
The husband of Irma Garcia (who was one of the teachers killed) has died of a heart attack at 48 years old. They were high school sweethearts and have 4 children, two of whom are young teens. The tragedy goes on and on.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/26/texas-school-shooting-teacher-husband-heart-attack
edit - and the police were cowards and disgusting.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/26/texas-school-shooting-teacher-husband-heart-attack
edit - and the police were cowards and disgusting.
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One of our teachers at school punched someone once cause she couldn’t control the class at all. Felt sorry for her but thinking of her having a gun terrifies me.
You missed a zero.
Teachers have to deal with some pretty obnoxious kids. Giving your teacher a gun doesn't sound like a good idea.
The idea of arming teachers is ludicrous for so many reasons, but I’ll just pick one. If the whole idea is to prevent school shootings, do we really want teenagers having access to dozens of guns on campus every day? Hell, I know 15 year old me was not a rational thinker.
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From what I gather (some gun nut here might correct me), an AR-15 is a semi-auto rifle not too disimmilar from some hunting rifles, although more moddable, easier to use, etc. So they could ban whatever they count as an "assault rifle" and there would still be similar stuff out there.
It wont' stop everything, but it would still stop something. Its a step forward to at least adressing the gun culture kids fall into. They are much less likely to out and buy a Ruger Mini-14 when they turn 18 because it doens't look anywhere near as cool as an AR-15, despite being pretty much just as capable.
I don't think anyone is talking about banning AR's as if that will solve this problem, it it just one of many suggestions alongside background checks, waiting periods, licences, etc.
Probably because it is the richest country in Earth, home to the biggest companies, it is the forefront of the research (does more research than the rest of the world combined), the most technologically advanced country, has by far the best universities in the world, and by far the best hospitals. And a few other things that I forgot.
I thought that wasn't the case anymore?
You must be a huge fan of China as well (or will be in some time).
Who gives a feck if people cannot be safe in their schools or supermarkets, at least our billionaires are making more billions. That's what matters!
This can't be true, if it is there will be riots.
It's 100% true. There won't.