Intrigued by your choice of player here. Given the hit rate of Klopp’s transfers, using Keita as some counter-point is a tad flimsy. While unspectacular and hasn’t hit the heights, he was a near-regular in a side that won nearly every week after Christmas. Hardly a total bum of a signing.
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Greenwood beat him for the spot
There just be some sort of pressure on Klopp to beat Pep to the title now, surely?
Kid is done let’s not immerse this thread with memories of a ghost
No.Goofy need one or two injuries to hide behind that we didn't have back up so little to spend other than some 100 mn euros.
I know they’ll be something if they fall way behind. I’ve said this many times since January, Klopp is literally under no pressure to beat Pep. He and his fan base are happy to try and tie each other together..City AND Liverpool are ahead of the rest.. rather than actually expect Klopp to reign City inNo.Goofy need one or two injuries to hide behind that we didn't have back up so little to spend other than some 100 mn euros.
Yes I have a feeling you're right. This donkey is nowhere near as good as our new signing Haaland.
Oh wait.......
We don't need Haaland, we need a miracle..
We have to move on gutting as it is
I think there will be some pressure from the owner. But the fanbase and media will probably not say anything against him.
This is Klopp’s chess move to Pep’s Haaland signing. Also would love to hear Klopp’s view about clubs spending 100 million quid on a player now. He’s spent some serious cash at Liverpool, don’t let the media fool you otherwise with this nett spend nonsense.
Where do you reckon this pressure will come from? Doubt it'll be from Pool fans.....maybe the Caf?
Yes, let's do it for United! Klopp is shoite! Wastes money on Dross....get it trending
Agreed.
Giving all the power to the manager then realising said manager had made a mess of recruitment is what got us into this mess in the first place. Our scouting network was completed in 2016 according to reports and we naively still allowed the managers to identify players whilst utilising their personal scouts.
There's reliable reports stating Ole pushed for the Ronaldo signing and Van Gaal name dropped di Maria in a press conference saying he didn't have a player like him. No sensible club gives total autonomy to the head coach in the game today. The head coach/manager cannot compile thorough and detailed scouting reports without the aid of the recruitment department which has the capacity to provide detailed analysis/information on different players.
But unfortunately we allowed the manager to work independently from these departments whilst he utilised his personal recruitment staff. And then when the managers strategy came a cropper, the club put a stop to his scatter gunned approach to recruitment and the fans were incensed that the Manager wasn't backed for a 3rd CB after he'd wasted a large sum on signing two CBs previously or in Ole's case with a CB and fullback for a combined £130m and then tried again to sign another CB (Varane) and fullback (Trippier).
Would say maybe we should have let Ronny go to get him, then again like I said in previous post we couldn't afford De Jong and him.
Nobody suggesting Klopp doesn’t spend but Liverpool’s model is spending what they earn through lucrative sales and often buying players before they peak in value. It’s astute business which is why it’s praised - particularly in the backdrop of other clubs spending large sums badly.
No, Klopp can’t beat Pep and isn’t the man to take the league off him? Hundreds of millions spent and it’s one league in 30.Where do you reckon this pressure will come from? Doubt it'll be from Pool fans.....maybe the Caf?
Yes, let's do it for United! Klopp is shoite! Wastes money on Dross....get it trending
At what point does the board look at Klopp and say we really need to start regularly winning the league now? CL? As good as 3 finals is it’s still one win (not knocking that).
Looking at it now, they buy Nunez and say it’s another second place. Why should the board back him again next summer for more eye boggling amounts? Would Zidane actually get the job done with the squad or maybe even less to spend? Maybe Zidane actually sells Mane and Salah for what they’re worth and gives the club a break that way instead of it potentially being 40m for two of the best players in the planet.
As I have said on here, if Klopp can’t get the best of Pep and he has one league win to show for it then it’s bordering on a failure. He is one inspired Ten Hag season away (2/3 seasons away at best but humour me here)from only matching United in league titles despite the absolute difference in quality between the two clubs for a good 6/7 years now.
The difference between the two sides seems to be head to head now and Pep honestly seems to have that figured out. I actually agree with their fans saying a change is needed but Klopp neeeds to start getting them over the line for the big trophies simply because they really are one of the two best sides in world football
Why?
Fantasy stuff this. I’m also devastated at Klopp’s single league in 30 years.
Top effort for creativity.
Yep, happy with second place. You’ve just backed my point up here.
I’m happy with your 1 league title in 30 as well, long may Pep reign.
#KloppOut
Will flop harder than Martial
Not if you’re happy with second place.
#Kloppforvicepresident
Surreal seeing our fans trying to make out Klopp needs to do better.
Maybe. Fingers crossed he won go 8 years without being coached to be a better footballer.
You’re convincing me.
Not sure this nonsense is getting us anywhere.
At least we agree it’s nonsense
But is wanting to buy a new player when the previous attempt was unsuccessful really a bad thing?
Guardiola has the DoF structure, the best in class football hierarchy, and he buys players until he gets one that actually works in his system. I don't get how and why do we say failed transfers is such a big deal. No manager is an oracle. They agree to transfers because they hope the incoming players will be a net positive for the squad. Sometimes it doesn't work out.
You seem triggered. Honestly have I touched a nerve here? Is Klopp having the same last two league finishes as Ole in his last two full seasons at Utd starting to sting?
Edit blocking you now to stop the urge to reply to one sentence wonders here and to get the thread back on track.
I haven't watched him play a full game. He is a workhorse by all accounts though. This seems to be a trait that Liverpool always seem to zone in on.
I'm glad to see the back of Mane
(though obv Diaz is his replacement) but that doesn't mean Nunez won't rip it up either. Jota is prob going to be 4th choice?
I'm glad to see the back of Mane
(though obv Diaz is his replacement) but that doesn't mean Nunez won't rip it up either. Jota is prob going to be 4th choice?
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They've definitely over paid, I think he's a very good striker but I can see why we pulled out of the race.
Klopp will love him though, the type to run through a brick wall for his manager.
Klopp will love him though, the type to run through a brick wall for his manager.
It's only been 7 years
Honestly you're reaching here mate.
I'm on board for a Ten Hag wonder season obviously...... but I'd be made up if we were even in the equation, irrespective of the fact that we still outspend Pool (grossly and more annoyingly fekkin drossly).
Even with this new lad (didn't want him at United, don't reckon he'd work out for us and beside we've definitely got bigger priorities) their spending is probably still lower than a good few of the other teams in the premier league.....all of which are absolutely light years away from City.
And TBF the 30 year thing isn't on FSG, they've been there about 12 years. And their asset has got to be worth more than ten times what they paid for it...... they're not getting shut of Klopp mate, that fekker's there as long as he wants the bastard job.
I agree with what you're saying somewhat, but when those players cost a combined transfer fee of £130m and are both deficient in playing in the approach the manager spoke of implementing in a high defensive line, then the strategy from the manager and his team leading the football department at first team level has to be called out imo. Solskjaer had his personal recruitment staff to aid him in making those decisions as well.
I also agree with you about Man City and don't believe their DoF (Txiki) has done anything outstanding and I doubt he'd be at the club if he wasn't mates with Guardiola.
But when you have a nation state backing you, then it's easier to absorb the hits of big money failures and regroup pretty quickly.
We can't do that and neither can Liverpool, and Liverpool have made up the deficit by having a proficient scouting/data analytics teams who have done remarkably well to minimise the mistakes post Brendan Rodgers who reportedly spent a large chunk of his tenure at Liverpool fighting with the club's recruitment department led by Michael Edwards. Klopp came in and embraced the existing structure and the existing structure has excelled. We've been operating similar to how Liverpool were under Rodgers who wanted to control all aspects of recruitment.
Some of these Mickeys seem to be biting easily tonight
Oh I’m not saying Ten Hag will do it or even come close. It’s the threat of Utd only being that 1 season away from matching his league title haul despite the team Liverpool have had for quite a while now. The team is so well developed that this summer actually feels like the start of a new cycle but it’s still one league title.
I’m not saying Klopp out or anything similar to that crying scouser. I’m saying there really needs to be more pressure on Klopp to actually get the better of Pep now. Klopp has used more mind games on United than his actual rival in City
Far too much money for me. He had one good season would not like us buying him for an insane amount. Klopp can turn shit to world class so would not rule him out for them, but Liverpool could have gone for cheaper players.
Well the co-host is no longer in the living world so that'll change things too.
I did not call him a total bum of a signing, I just don’t think he’s something special nor that the sum paid for him has been justified
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