Maybe you misunderstood, generally he'll be remember as a member of a team which won the world cup (one of the ugliest world cup winner teams as far as I remember but that's for another thread, games wise) but as far as United is concerned he'll be remember as just a mere footnote in our club's history.
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I'm not downplaying him. He was good to very good in ranges. He was not "unbelievable". Unbelievable is reserved for the performances of Ronaldinho 2002, Zidane 2006, Ronaldo 2006, etc.
I don't use that term so frivolously. Unbelievable to describe Pogba in the France World Cup was overcooked.
I cant find it on prime?
I am just wondering how he thought that documentary might be a good idea. Makes him look a total prat.
No problem then. I got your point.
Its on Amazon Past His Prime
He has an extremely inflated sense of his importance and level as a player. He has a phenomenal technical and physical abilities of course, but if you don't have professionalism and consistency that doesn't mean much. If you were to be a little harsh, you would say he hasn't really achieved anything in club football.
When it first became clear that he would be leaving us, I had mixed feelings about it, but I am more and more delighted for every story that comes out.
What fascinates me is what led the club to even offer him an increase? He was barely ever "fit" and when he was he was not exactly tearing the league apart or even playing at a consistent level. The arrival of Bruno was supposed to lift him and bring the best out of him apparently but all it did was expose him as Bruno actually tried and put in the performances and numbers we have all expected from Pogba.
He was coasting at the club, earning loads of cash, and he played whenever he wanted to. The fact that he released a documentary at the end of one of the club's worst seasons in recent history makes me wonder how "injured" he really was. He came out many times and spoke about Madrid and flirted with other clubs, but in the same breath posts on Instagram after a bad result saying the club and fans deserve better!? He did not and does not give a single crap about anyone else other than Paul Pogba, he can have all the talent and ability in the world but his egoistic behavior trumps all of that!
I was someone who used to back him, but in the last few months I have wanted him out of the club and I could not be happier that he is gone.
Go coast in the serie A or ligue 1 and pretend to be some sort fo GOAT midfielder that deserves better
Good fecking riddance!
He was coasting at the club, earning loads of cash, and he played whenever he wanted to. The fact that he released a documentary at the end of one of the club's worst seasons in recent history makes me wonder how "injured" he really was. He came out many times and spoke about Madrid and flirted with other clubs, but in the same breath posts on Instagram after a bad result saying the club and fans deserve better!? He did not and does not give a single crap about anyone else other than Paul Pogba, he can have all the talent and ability in the world but his egoistic behavior trumps all of that!
I was someone who used to back him, but in the last few months I have wanted him out of the club and I could not be happier that he is gone.
Go coast in the serie A or ligue 1 and pretend to be some sort fo GOAT midfielder that deserves better
Good fecking riddance!
One of the main things Pogba had going for him was the perception of him being a nice guy, model professional etc. He also had the shield of Raiola as his supporters could always claim the comments coming through the press were just his agent going rogue.
This documentary seems to be torpedoing all of that with all the greed, comparisons to Jesus, seduction metaphors. He just seems like a bit of a knob now, or at best - stupid.
Wouldn't surprise me, it's become increasingly apparent this guy while insanely talented doesn't really give a shit about football. I can't work out if he doesn't realise what a tragic waste of his talent it's been to be where he's at at 29, or he literally doesn't care because he still has the profile and the money - because the way he talks himself up does not seem to suggest he realises he's had a fairly mediocre career relative to his potential.
Pogba goes missing again
It is worrying to me that some of the talented academy lads, always turn out to be bad eggs.
Morrison, Pogba, Lingard, Januzaj, MG11 have all had attitude problems of some sort.
Worrying.
Morrison, Pogba, Lingard, Januzaj, MG11 have all had attitude problems of some sort.
Worrying.
Add Rashford to that list.
The reason I think it happens with some is because the club and fans blow so much smoke up their backside that they think they've made it, when really the hard work should just be starting ie becoming a first team player and then a mainstay in the first team.
Was thinking the same thing myself yesterday.
Could potentially throw Rashford into the mix there as well. I seem to recall some quotes regarding James Wilson as thinking he'd made it overnight too. Pereira also seemed like a bit of a moron (wasn't he and Januzaj dropped from the youth team for trying to score every time they took a corner?)
Would absolutely add Henderson to that list too, he thinks he's the absolute dogs bollocks that lad and I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn he has been leaking to the press.
I'm fairly sure Nicky Butt (or maybe another recent youth coach?) had a bit to say about the attitude of players coming through the Academy.
I did(because his attitude on the pitch stinks) and then deleted, because I thought my larger point will go amiss, and this will turn into a debate about whether Rashford(MBE) does or does not have attitude problems.
He's one of the worst, for me. Obviously Ravel had his demons but he came from a different background and upbringing to Rashford. Whilst it's not an excuse, a lot of the bad stuff with him happened when he was still a child really. Rashford has got worse with maturity and age.
He decided to go Miami and he wonders why the manager didn't like it?
Come on now. Rashford has mental issues on the field as per Steve Mclarren's assessment.
Outside of the field he has been a model citizen.
Yeah I don't buy it. I've heard stories too that point to his off the field character pretty much stacking up with his on field character. I pointed this out when I first started to notice his demeanour on the pitch last season, but nobody believed it. Now it is universally accepted that he has a bad attitude. From what I've heard he's an arrogant c*ck, and I can fully believe it given everything we've seen on and off the pitch this season, plus his ridiculous PR crap.
I had an ex who worked for Manchester Hospital Children's Charity.
She showed Rahford and Lingard round during the teams Xmas visit. Said they were the rudest, most arrogant players she'd worked with. Unsurprisingly Mata was meant to be lovely and he'd stay way beyond his alloted hours talking to the kids and their families.
I did get a shirt signed by them both though.
'I should get the parachute because I'm great. In fact I think I should get both parachutes in case one doesn't work!'
Yeah sounds like what I heard. Rude and arrogant. This was from a guy that Rashford phoned in to go and help him sort something out at his house. I know it anyway just from watching him play football, his starting on supporters and his ridiculous entitled attitude that his PR team take.
And you could have guessed that about Mata! I'm glad at least one of them represented the club well for those kids.
I'm saying it now. Good cause or not, Rashford only got so involved in the school meal stuff because of the PR and clout he got. His ego since then has seemingly been out of control. Yet the club will continue to enable it and, at the same time, wonder why there are problems in the dressing room and a poor attitude spreading through the team. He's a shite role model for our youngsters and should be shown the door.
So he is a joke if he takes less money to go to Juventus, but looks worse when you found out he took more money going to Juventus?Ok sorry my bad, that makes him actually look worse
Is there a move he can make that won't look bad to you?
Pretty much. Also doesn't help that we offer ridiculous contracts as quick as we can, further adding to their ego. £250k a week for Martial ffs!
We need to stop gassing up any youth player that comes in and does better than expected, calling them the next Scholes or Giggs or Ronaldo or whatever.
Rotten culture at the club. Period. Could you imagine any of that lot back in the great teams of 99/08.
He got a higher salary.And hes had to settle for a lower salary as well. fecking prick
Well it seems he just signed a bumper contract with Juventus which is higher than what we can offer, so it doesn't seem like he's struggling with income.
Other clubs seem to think he deserves one.
He took no pay cut. He received a bigger offer from Juve, which is why he is leaving.
There's certainly some truth in this.
I think we found a new fan.
Maybe with Lingard gone Rashford will be a bit more normal so to say.
Imagine that, Jose sent Mino a message which Pogba didnt like.
Yes how about not leaving for a free for a 2nd time and not talking shit about the club?
Man you Pogba fanbois should follow Pogba to his next club, your loyalty is not with the club that is for sure.
Yeah, talk about taking liberties. Fergie would've thrown a shoe across the Atlantic.
Well if you don't want him to leave on a free then pay him what he is asking for. Wasn't he asking for 500-600k a week? I'm sure Juve made an offer that is close to that with the bonuses and signing on fee.
And no I'm no Pogba fanboy. I wanted the club to get rid of this cnut and back Jose to set the culture straight. But of course the club choose to do otherwise and let the fans shit on Mou and let him take the blame.
Well now we have just become a hateful club that simply shits on everyone who comes through here, that is simply unlikable and not fun to watch. How many people have we shit on again? Mou, Lingard, Pogba and soon Henderson. Every single one of these guys I'm sure will have done much better if they weren't here.
Not like I care about them. They are still rich multimillionaires. But we really suck as a club.
I wonder how many footballers have a live-in lawyer like Pogba.
Lifestyle they show in the doc is exactly what you'd expect. Living with 2-3 employed sycophants no wonder their egos go out of control.
Lifestyle they show in the doc is exactly what you'd expect. Living with 2-3 employed sycophants no wonder their egos go out of control.
As others have already pointed out, the tax regime in Italy means he will cost Juventus a lot less than he was costing us. He seemed to think we should have dedicated even more of our wage bill to reward a player with a terrible injury record and an inconsistent performer when he was fit. He was wrong, obviously.
The move is less of a financial commitment from Juve. And we’ve seen how players that struggle with the intensity of the PL can succeed in Italy, so probably a risk worth taking for Juve. Definitely not a risk we should have taken based on his career at United so far. The fact he seems blissfully unaware of this speaks volumes about his capacity for self-reflection (and hence improvement) It’s why he’s a no better player at 29 than he was when we signed him.
Miami? I mean he's not really helping his case with these quotes, is he? More like he's proving Mourinho was right
Yeah and this is what I mean. With this documentary nonsense everybody got the proof as he himself is talking BS in front of the camera. If I was someone at Juve being involved in recruiting my alarm bells would ring.
Sure, he is free but comes with hefty wage demands. And little consistent output.
Juve is not the team anymore he used to know, chances are he will not be that happy and then you are bound to pay a lot of money to a player who is not worth it.
I have not really followed the situation, but are there any other clubs really interested in him?