Film Top Gun: Maverick

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Why did some planes have 2 pilots (the girl and the nerd) while others only one (like Maverick)? Were they flying different planes?
 

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Rewatched the first one with the missus and Monday and just got back from the movies for Maverick.

Loved every minute of it from start to finish. That was just a great watch.
 

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Why did some planes have 2 pilots (the girl and the nerd) while others only one (like Maverick)? Were they flying different planes?
Different variants of the same hornet. I believe the 2 seaters are used for electronic warfare (jamming etc) and training, but that may be a specialist variant. I note the tomcat was 2 seater due to the radar on the thing and needing a RIO to run it.
 

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Why did some planes have 2 pilots (the girl and the nerd) while others only one (like Maverick)? Were they flying different planes?
Different versions of the same plane. They use the two seater when there is a specific task required that can't be done by the pilot because they are too busy flying, usually something to do with electronic warfare.
 

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Ever watched a film that you remain in the moment for long after? And then see it again and still be star hit?

Best movie I've seen for the last 20 years or so in the cinema. Made me fall in love again with action films and respect cinema.

I already used to have a good opinion on Mr. Cruse. Now I'm a fanatic that dreams of more films like this.

10/10 and 10 out of 10. Can't wait to see it another hundred times.
 

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Ever watched a film that you remain in the moment for long after? And then see it again and still be star hit?

Best movie I've seen for the last 20 years or so in the cinema. Made me fall in love again with action films and respect cinema.

I already used to have a good opinion on Mr. Cruse. Now I'm a fanatic that dreams of more films like this.

10/10 and 10 out of 10. Can't wait to see it another hundred times.
I want him to do a sequel to Edge of Tomorrow.
 

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Ever watched a film that you remain in the moment for long after? And then see it again and still be star hit?

Best movie I've seen for the last 20 years or so in the cinema. Made me fall in love again with action films and respect cinema.

I already used to have a good opinion on Mr. Cruse. Now I'm a fanatic that dreams of more films like this.

10/10 and 10 out of 10. Can't wait to see it another hundred times.
@Pogue Mahone felt the same way.
 

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Just seen this. As soon as Maverick manages to survive a crash at Mach 10.4 you just knew this wasn’t a movie to take seriously.

Literally every scene which didn’t involve flying planes was shite. It isn’t even remotely comparable to the original.
 

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This was awesome

I really loved the original especially the sounrtrack. Overall I think it's better than the original (rewatched the original a few days ago)

So glad I got to see this in the cinema. Was surprised it was packed nearly a month since being released

Probably movie of the year
 

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Also was thinking, apart from the mummy I can't think of a tom cruise movie I didn't like

Even war of the world's was decent despite the shitty ending / final third
 

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Don't like Tom much but this movie was nothing but enjoyable. JC has been my crush since I saw her in the Labyrinth and she really doesn't disappoint. 9/10 Stingers
 

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Amazing ! best movie of the year and I wasn't even a huge fan of the original. Tom Cruise is a star.
 

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Saw it just now. Fun film, not sure why it's rated this highly though.7/10
 

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I mean that was fecking great. Just a fun, wild ride, that was meant to be watched on a giant screen. The last film I saw before this at the cinema was Doctor Strange, and I don't think I got anything more from that then I should watching at home... This though, the scope, the action, the sound... Bloody loved it.

It'll be a sad day when Tom Cruise stops making movies.

The only thing I'd say is this film should come with a PSA at the beginning to not jump straight into your car and drive home afterwards... Bloody dangerous stuff that.... :nervous:
 
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Just seen this. As soon as Maverick manages to survive a crash at Mach 10.4 you just knew this wasn’t a movie to take seriously.

Literally every scene which didn’t involve flying planes was shite. It isn’t even remotely comparable to the original.
The original is an awful movie though.
 

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Live die repeat and repeat has been in the works for a while. But that’s the planned sequel for the edge of tomorrow. Assuming it is still going ahead.
For such a great movie to have two shitty names is quite an accomplishment.
 

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The original is an awful movie though.
I’d need to watch it again (I don’t want to watch it again) but my memory of it is that it managed to take itself not too seriously. Knowingly camp and silly, with some funny one-liners. Plus the whole Goose dying thing gave it a bit of emotional heft. This ticked none of those boxes and only beats the original during the action scenes, which are admittedly a big improvement.

All in all, there’s not a lot between them. I definitely enjoyed the original a lot more than this one. Not least because it was actually original at the time.
 

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I’d need to watch it again (I don’t want to watch it again) but my memory of it is that it managed to take itself not too seriously. Knowingly camp and silly, with some funny one-liners. Plus the whole Goose dying thing gave it a bit of emotional heft. This ticked none of those boxes and only beats the original during the action scenes, which are admittedly a big improvement.

All in all, there’s not a lot between them. I definitely enjoyed the original a lot more than this one. Not least because it was actually original at the time.
I suggest watching it again. It’s really quite bad. The new film takes itself far less seriously. Though maybe that’s just you and I differing in attitude/humour/perception of them.

For me, after watching the original a week prior to Maverick, I was shocked at how far away my memory was from reality. In my head it was a great movie. It’s just average. Cult classics are rarely up to much.
 

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I suggest watching it again. It’s really quite bad. The new film takes itself far less seriously. Though maybe that’s just you and I differing in attitude/humour/perception of them.

For me, after watching the original a week prior to Maverick, I was shocked at how far away my memory was from reality. In my head it was a great movie. It’s just average. Cult classics are rarely up to much.
Yeah it wasn't great, I rewatched it with other half and it's choppy in some places and not as good as the sequel

Just seen this. As soon as Maverick manages to survive a crash at Mach 10.4 you just knew this wasn’t a movie to take seriously.

Literally every scene which didn’t involve flying planes was shite. It isn’t even remotely comparable to the original.
So ... You were taking the movie seriously up until that point? Hmm
 

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Also was thinking, apart from the mummy I can't think of a tom cruise movie I didn't like

Even war of the world's was decent despite the shitty ending / final third
Even the Reacher films were ok, despite them using 2 books that should’ve been way down the list for adaptation.
I think the fact he pushes boundaries on practical stunts is what sets him apart from other A listers. Notwithstanding his Scientology weirdness, he seems a decent guy.
 

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I want him to do a sequel to Edge of Tomorrow.
Alledgly one is in the works. Apparently he regrets the studio changing the movie title as it was supposed to be Live.Die.Repeat and a sequel would have been Live.Die.Repeat.Repeat. Not sure how a sequel would work.

Basically Edge of Tomorrow should have been Terminator 3 set in the future. John Connor is a a average shmuck whos stuck in a time loop and eventually after countless deaths manages to destory skynet and becomes a legend. Triology completed.
 

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Even the Reacher films were ok, despite them using 2 books that should’ve been way down the list for adaptation.
I think the fact he pushes boundaries on practical stunts is what sets him apart from other A listers. Notwithstanding his Scientology weirdness, he seems a decent guy.
I didnt mind the Reacher movies. They are 'fun' even if people complain about his height. Taking away source material, as a movie (if it had another title) it was still enjoyable
 

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I didnt mind the Reacher movies. They are 'fun' even if people complain about his height. Taking away source material, as a movie (if it had another title) it was still enjoyable
I think that’s the problem. It was a pair of generic ‘good guy rights a wrong’ movies. They used the Jack Reacher tag to sell tickets. FOR NO REASON. It had Tom Cruise in it. It would have sold tickets regardless.

It utilised so little of the book content. I can take or leave the physicality aspect being shoehorned into Cruises diminutive form. What I couldn’t tolerate is the fact that Lee Child literally only leaves a single chink in Reachers armour. He’s the guy that will take out a platoon with a toothpick. A guy that will steal your girl, and your mum. A guy that will teach a child a lesson. But he couldn’t drive! He was bad at it! He was an Everyman after all! (Groan). It’s in every damn book.

…. Cruise proceeds to have a massive car chase with every corner a controlled power slide, driving like Kimi on a test track. Get in the bin.
 

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Yeah it wasn't great, I rewatched it with other half and it's choppy in some places and not as good as the sequel


So ... You were taking the movie seriously up until that point? Hmm
It was literally one of the first things that happened. If anyone ejects at such a speed they would be burnt to a crisp. They even mentioned the heat shields before that. It was hilariously bad writing like most of the film which showcased pretty much everything that is bad about big budget Hollywood.

And yes the scenes with planes in the air were better due to modern special effects. But that’s it. Anyone saying this “sequel” is better than the original is mad. It’s like saying Godfather III was better than the first two.
 

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It was literally one of the first things that happened. If anyone ejects at such a speed they would be burnt to a crisp. They even mentioned the heat shields before that. It was hilariously bad writing like most of the film which showcased pretty much everything that is bad about big budget Hollywood.

And yes the scenes with planes in the air were better due to modern special effects. But that’s it. Anyone saying this “sequel” is better than the original is mad. It’s like saying Godfather III was better than the first two.
Well it's nothing like that :lol:
Top gun the first is nostalgic fun but watching it again, it is not as good as you remember it

Also more so, I was just surprised you took the movie seriously in the first place
 

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I think that’s the problem. It was a pair of generic ‘good guy rights a wrong’ movies. They used the Jack Reacher tag to sell tickets. FOR NO REASON. It had Tom Cruise in it. It would have sold tickets regardless.

It utilised so little of the book content. I can take or leave the physicality aspect being shoehorned into Cruises diminutive form. What I couldn’t tolerate is the fact that Lee Child literally only leaves a single chink in Reachers armour. He’s the guy that will take out a platoon with a toothpick. A guy that will steal your girl, and your mum. A guy that will teach a child a lesson. But he couldn’t drive! He was bad at it! He was an Everyman after all! (Groan). It’s in every damn book.

…. Cruise proceeds to have a massive car chase with every corner a controlled power slide, driving like Kimi on a test track. Get in the bin.
I think what helped me was I didn't read the books so had no such expectations and comparisons
 

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It was literally one of the first things that happened. If anyone ejects at such a speed they would be burnt to a crisp. They even mentioned the heat shields before that. It was hilariously bad writing like most of the film which showcased pretty much everything that is bad about big budget Hollywood.

And yes the scenes with planes in the air were better due to modern special effects. But that’s it. Anyone saying this “sequel” is better than the original is mad. It’s like saying Godfather III was better than the first two.
Hypothetically speaking, could the cockpit itself not be some sort of protected capsule that seperates upon ejection?
 

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It was literally one of the first things that happened. If anyone ejects at such a speed they would be burnt to a crisp. They even mentioned the heat shields before that. It was hilariously bad writing like most of the film which showcased pretty much everything that is bad about big budget Hollywood.

And yes the scenes with planes in the air were better due to modern special effects. But that’s it. Anyone saying this “sequel” is better than the original is mad. It’s like saying Godfather III was better than the first two.
It was similar to the ‘Goose hitting the blown off windshield when they ejected’ scene in the first movie. There’s about a half second delay from when the windshield blows off & the seat ejects. That windshield would be about a quarter of a mile back & hundreds of feet higher when the seat ejected. But they had to kill him somehow.
 

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It was similar to the ‘Goose hitting the blown off windshield when they ejected’ scene in the first movie. There’s about a half second delay from when the windshield blows off & the seat ejects. That windshield would be about a quarter of a mile back & hundreds of feet higher when the seat ejected. But they had to kill him somehow.
Malfunction, mate. Malfunction.

It was tragedy.
 

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Hypothetically speaking, could the cockpit itself not be some sort of protected capsule that seperates upon ejection?
Some aircraft have used exactly that system in the past, but its only ever been done up to about Mach 3.

Theoretically a Mach 10 capsule could be designed, it was looked at for the Space Shuttle, but it would be very hard to do.