I remember saying at the time we originally sent Pereira on loan to Flamengo that £15m was completely pointless and they would never spend that for him. Another poster was so insistent that Flamengo had plenty of money and could easily buy him if he did well. Well, Pereira did far better than I ever believed he could and Flamengo still didn't pay the fee, because they obviously never intended to. I say keep Pereira, he's one of our few players who's on a low wage anyway, and we can use him for squad depth in a number of positions in case of emergency. What's the point in sending him back on loan to the cheap twats who scrounged on the last deal and obviously won't buy him next time either?
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I think I've seen enough to suggest that Ronaldo probably is ideally looking to leave if another club comes along. I know some might think that's a good thing but honestly I think that would be a disaster, especially if it happens late in the window like it did with Juve.
Just take it FFS
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So Utd have signed a new solicitor whilst City and Liverpool strengthen. Makes sense.
I was so fecking naive when i thought we would actually do business quick this window..same old shit
Entitlement is strong on the CAF
Do not spam the Twitter thread with pointless memes
It will be the same old shit on the pitch also once a bad result happens, as the same spineless and average players will still make up the majority of our starting 11. I’m more than certain ETH will face the same fate as he predecessors once they inevitably down tools when the going gets tough.
There are no 100% certainty’s in football but the closest you can get to one is knowing this club will mostly disappoint on and off the pitch. We have been stuck in this cycle for years now and personally I don’t see it ending anytime soon.
There is a trick to avoid tweets getting to the transfer tweets summary. Put it in quotes.
wtf posting shite like this?
So there can be 20-30 pages of people moaning about the club in this thread but THIS is what you stomp your feet over?
Your posts in this thread are all transfer related yeah?
Report it and get it deleted then if it upsets you that much but your acronyms and feux anger are wasted on me.
Those saying just take the lowball for Andreas are probably the very same that complain about us having a transfer budget restriction and want us to pay top dollar for FDJ. They want to have their cake and eat it.
Go on then. Prove it.
Slow day.
Big day yesterday.
Not at all. I just don't think there's any value in him, he's been hanging around too long and we can't bloody shift him after multiple windows so I think we should just cut our feckin losses.
Well he pushed himself from what I gather, the club didn't actively tell him to go.
That's why there's no replacement. Wasn't planned.
First we're in competition with Brentford and now van Gerwen is mocking us. Fergie wept.
Can't imagine anyone not thinking we should just take the money and run for Andreas. It's 2022. If we can get a bag of Hula Hoops for him at this point I'd take it just to get him off the wage bill and out of the club. He's the deadest of deadwood.
Ffs, even Luke Shaw's best mates are laughing at us.
There was no need to destroy them like that.
Yep. But if those reports are accurate and Ajax want 50m for either centre back or 70m for Antony it makes no sense to pursue those deals. Frenkie is a rare breed and already made one expensive move to a top club, so it's understandable that we'd pay a top fee. But to pay those figures for potential would be continuing the same trend of overpaying and burdening the players with too much expectation. It would also put unnecessary pressure on ETH with that kind of money spend on potential - everyone would be expecting that potential to be realised immediately. Hopefully he has ideas about desirable players outside of Ajax that can be tried if we're being quoted overblown fees.
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It might be but come on, we're watching all the other clubs strengthen, what are we doing? Nothing.
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United getting linked with every Tom, Dick and Harry, ffs.
Our rivals will have their new signings on the training pitch and on tour to bed in. We on the other hand will be pushing through desperate deals on the last few days of the window after dropping points on the opening few games. Manager under pressure and fans toxic again.
I understand people saying the window is only open a few weeks but thats not the point. We have a new manager and he deserves to have his squad settled for preseason. Look at sancho and Varane last season, neither got a proper preseason and both failed to live up to expectations and struggled for fitness.
I had real hopes the structure changes and Ed leaving would have made us compitent in the market, same old bs as the last decade though. Fdj is just this years fabregas or thiago.
I understand people saying the window is only open a few weeks but thats not the point. We have a new manager and he deserves to have his squad settled for preseason. Look at sancho and Varane last season, neither got a proper preseason and both failed to live up to expectations and struggled for fitness.
I had real hopes the structure changes and Ed leaving would have made us compitent in the market, same old bs as the last decade though. Fdj is just this years fabregas or thiago.
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I don't know if we did or didn't. The post about the better European offer is based on what another, more reliable Brazilian journalist reported a couple of weeks back (see below). Anyways, Flamengo haven't even submitted this offer; they're preparing it at this time. We'll see what happens when they submit it.
Yeah, I was stating my opinion and putting forth my own conjecture on Pereira's current situation, but it's not based on nothing. Here's what I base it on:
Casagrande's one of, if not the, most reliable Brazilian football reporters. One of our Brazilian posters had this to say about him:
Goal Brasil isn't terrible, but I'd like to wait and see if a more reliable journalist reports on this Flamengo offer. Anyways, I've read this Sport Witness article that covers the report. This €5m offer that Flamengo are readying up isn't for 100% of his rights but 50% of it. To restate, they'd purchase him for €5m, and there will basically be a "50% sell-on clause" for Pereira. Manchester United, however, want to completely sell Pereira for €10m, so I doubt they'll accept this offer once they receive it.
Unfortunately, The United Stand only translated the headline and didn't cover the rest of the article.
Flamengo just signed Everton Soares from Benfica for 15m, so the feckers had the money to pay.
Like many here, I’ve been growing frustrated with our lack of activity in the market. I have pondered what could of been as I see possible targets move to other clubs and strengthen them while we do nothing.
I’ve read this once or twice here and there and feel when Ten hag signed, he was given a list of targets that our scouting department have identified but he felt they didn’t fit his style. Big changes behind the scenes, new scouts etc but with little to no time to scout for players that fit with ten hag vision. We’ve resorted to buying players (or attempting) that ten hag has worked with in the past. He knows they fit his style and would make an impact but unfortunately it seems that we are too late. Ajax are saying no more sales and have increased their prices for players while we keep trying de jong.
I feel we will get him, maybe one or two more but we will haveto spend silly money again.
I have faith that we will improve regardless of how many we bring in. Hopefully securing top 4 while our scouts actually getto work finding those hidden gems that fit with ten hag.
I’ve read this once or twice here and there and feel when Ten hag signed, he was given a list of targets that our scouting department have identified but he felt they didn’t fit his style. Big changes behind the scenes, new scouts etc but with little to no time to scout for players that fit with ten hag vision. We’ve resorted to buying players (or attempting) that ten hag has worked with in the past. He knows they fit his style and would make an impact but unfortunately it seems that we are too late. Ajax are saying no more sales and have increased their prices for players while we keep trying de jong.
I feel we will get him, maybe one or two more but we will haveto spend silly money again.
I have faith that we will improve regardless of how many we bring in. Hopefully securing top 4 while our scouts actually getto work finding those hidden gems that fit with ten hag.
A lot of teams have money, just none of them want to spend any of it on our shite players unfortunately
Part of this is due to our insane decisions to extend contracts to some players, or not try to sell them couple of years ago. 2-3 years ago we might've been able to sell Mata (he spent 90% of the time sitting on the bench), Jones, Bailly etc. Now, no one who has brains will buy our players who are either garbage or/and are injured most of the time. Heck, we should've let Henderson leave last year, now we are sending him on a loan. We are flying circus
Is Felaini available?
Probably, but I’m also sure his release clause goes up 1st July
It`s not about entitlement, but about getting the new manager the best start possible with getting him players in early so he can work with them all summer. Or do you prefer the Woodward/Judge way ? to feck around all summer and get players in at the end of window so the player and manager have no time together.
Im glad it`s not only meTo be honest I did genuinely think this too
Well when you never buy the right type of players and keep getting them in at the end of the window instead of at the start of window, you are really not giving them a good chance or time to train and adapt with the team wich also does not help the manager or players.
The problem is he's only good in pre-season and isn't good enough to be a squad player.
Thanks for the info mate. Well informed as always. If there offer is only 50% of his rights that won't fly will it? I thought those deals weren't legal for PL clubs or is what you're described a way around it with paying us half and including that hefty sell on clause? It's still not a great deal either way.
They are talking about Flamengo’s initial agreement. Nothing about another club.
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