Wait for Ten Hag's other targets?

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Well it looks like we are finally in the end game for De Jong, so with that in mind should we wait it out for his other targets like Timber, Martinez & Antony if they are the right players
 

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Why do you want us to sign Ajax players when we should be better than Ajax?
 

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Wait until when? Next season? And do what this summer — sign nobody?
 

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Wait until when? Next season? And do what this summer — sign nobody?
My point is should we wait it out whether that be January or next summer for the right targets or just go for alternatives this summer
 

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I absolutely desire ETH getting all players needed for football puzzle of his liking. Since he's appointed, he should be trusted on this.

Wait it out ? Sure. It will take some time and it can feel boring, however system manager without system players will be left for dead a bit. Press will murder him and then part of already furious fanbase will demolish his grave.

ETH's findings on the market while being Ajax manager (Tadić, Alvarez etc.) suggests he's able to find proper players outside Eredivisie.
 

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Well if it's taking this long on one signing we'll be left waiting, and it looks like so will ETH.
 

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We shouldn’t sign a single player ETH doesn’t want.

That’s been half the problem these last ten years. The board rocking up and saying “there you go, have a Donny; you’re welcome”.
 

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My point is should we wait it out whether that be January or next summer for the right targets or just go for alternatives this summer
I'm not sure we really have that luxury with so many players who've left. Maybe if he's his heart set on a particular player who we can get by without in the short-term and we've loaned them back to their club until after the WC but apart from that I don't see it being a good idea.
 

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My point is should we wait it out whether that be January or next summer for the right targets or just go for alternatives this summer
Gotcha.

I think certain players you obviously go all in for/wait for them to become available — E.g. De Jong — but everyone else we’ve been linked with has alternates.

Timber/Martinez — two good players, but ball-playing CB’s with a bit of pace are hardly that rare. There are definitely alternatives out there if we so desperately want another CB.

Antony — good (available) left footed wingers are a bit rarer. I think we need another attacker just for numbers (unless we promote Amad or Pellistri) so I’d want us to target someone else if we can’t get Antony. Who? Unsure.

Eriksen — interesting target just because he’s a free transfer, but if we can’t get him we absolutely need to target another CM. We’ve lost Pogba and Matic, and our two starters aren’t good enough anyway. 100% need to target someone else if we can’t get Eriksen in.
 

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How much would it cost to just buy Ajax?

Probably easier to buy them rather than keep furnishing them with vast wads.
 

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Got to admit I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more, as so far all we really been linked to are his ex players, which seems a bit odd to me.
Ordinarily it would seem odd to me also, but if he has identified (correctly, in my opinion) that there are issues with mentality in our squad, he may be thinking that he is better to choose players he trusts and who he thinks will have no issues in that department. If that is the case, it makes sense to me.
 

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Got to admit I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more, as so far all we really been linked to are his ex players, which seems a bit odd to me.
You wouldn’t think it odd if you read his past history. He always brings a player or 2 from his previous club so that they can help get his ideas across quicker. Plus he obviously trusts them.
Im not worried because the players all linked are better than what we have in the same position
 

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Ordinarily it would seem odd to me also, but if he has identified (correctly, in my opinion) that there are issues with mentality in our squad, he may be thinking that he is better to choose players he trusts and who he thinks will have no issues in that department. If that is the case, it makes sense to me.
Most likely, he will also need a good core of players on his side right from the off, and given our recent transfers it's probably a safer way to go, it also won't take much for them to improve us, so I do understand, it's just surprising it's not more of a discussion.
 

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Most of ten hags targets seem to be his former players. I think after we get de Jong then Antony is the only other player we should go for that’s linked to ten Hag. What are his other targets that hasn’t worked under him?
 

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I think, we should wait 9 more years, put all the other clubs into a false sense of superiority and then BAM, sign a player.

That will unsettle those smug clubs winning titles and trophies.
 

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What is this thread trying to say.
It’s not difficult brother. He’s saying should we trust ETH and wait for his priority signings or just go for different targets
 

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You wouldn’t think it odd if you read his past history. He always brings a player or 2 from his previous club so that they can help get his ideas across quicker. Plus he obviously trusts them.
Im not worried because the players all linked are better than what we have in the same position

Yeah I've read that, but he already has DVB here, and we need alot more than 2 players, so it's just interesting that there are virtually no links to anything but ex players.
 

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Why do you want us to sign Ajax players when we should be better than Ajax?
I think Ajax were better than us last season - I don’t think there’s much wrong with taking their best players in areas we are also weak.
 

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Probably end up looking stupid but feel this will change after his first window
It's because the club again have zero plans despite knowing for months and months who is leaving and what we needed in terms of positions filled.

Yet we are again going after the wrong players, because we are desperate once more.

It's just not acceptable
 

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It's because the club again have zero plans despite knowing for months and months who is leaving and what we needed in terms of positions filled.

Yet we are again going after the wrong players, because we are desperate once more.

It's just not acceptable
I've said for a long time that it's irrelevant who our manager is, the shit trickles down from the top. The club is screwed until they get someone in charge of things like this above the manager, because this will keep happening.

I'll be absolutely astounded if we get de Jong, I'll be surprised if we get any of the main targets. Well overpay for the 2nd choice like we always do and we'll be in the same place this time next year
 

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Got to admit I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more, as so far all we really been linked to are his ex players, which seems a bit odd to me.
Not sure it's that odd really.

The club is looking for players who are a) high talent, b) suited to ETH's football and c) obtainable.

We know players who flourished under ETH absolutely meet requirement B. And by dint of having played for ETH, some of them (like FDJ) become more willing to move to the club, which aids with requirement C. So if they also happen to be high talent players then they should be among the top targets for us, even if it was the club driving the transfers and ETH had no say whatsoever (which obviously isn't the case).

I'm sure there are other players who also fit the profile and I'm sure we won't just sign former ETH players this summer. But those other targets don't come with quite the same guarantee that they fit the way ETH works and don't have that former relationship with the manager to help convince them to come.

The only issue would be if the former ETH-related targets weren't high-talent enough. And I don't think that's the case for any of FDJ, Timber, Martinez or Antony as all are either at or have been linked to other top level sides anyway.
 

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United would be linked to these players anyway, the likes of Martinez, Timber, De Jong or Antony are sought after players that are meant to join wealthy clubs. There is only a handful of clubs they would move to and we are one of them.
 

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I absolutely desire ETH getting all players needed for football puzzle of his liking. Since he's appointed, he should be trusted on this.

Wait it out ? Sure. It will take some time and it can feel boring, however system manager without system players will be left for dead a bit. Press will murder him and then part of already furious fanbase will demolish his grave.

ETH's findings on the market while being Ajax manager (Tadić, Alvarez etc.) suggests he's able to find proper players outside Eredivisie.
100% this. He needs a core that believes in him and know what he wants. I do believe Man Utd needs a CF. ETH wanted (at Ajax) a player the can receive the ball, hold it in possession and link it to the wings. He also needs to be man the is always on the rigth place. I am unsure ronaldo can perform in that role
 

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Using that theory you’d never sign a player from a smaller club
I think Ajax were better than us last season - I don’t think there’s much wrong with taking their best players in areas we are also weak.
Our track record of improving players is appalling, so one from a smaller club is fine, but when we’re discussing 4 or 5 in one go, all from the same club, that doesn’t sound promising.

I think we’d do well in Eredivisie as we are now.
 

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100% this. He needs a core that believes in him and know what he wants. I do believe Man Utd needs a CF. ETH wanted (at Ajax) a player the can receive the ball, hold it in possession and link it to the wings. He also needs to be man the is always on the rigth place. I am unsure ronaldo can perform in that role
Literally everything can happen, including deadline day. Signing CF is not so distant concept, especially with countless, supposedly reliable twitter accounts, proving they can't see whole picture and magnitude of Ten Hag's changes, incoming.

I'm not sure how Ronaldo fits into new United and how much he can give at his age, but Ten Hag was actually straightforward when it comes to him on his first presser. Goals, goals, goals.

CF sooner or later is a must even with Bruno hitting his peak again and becoming Paul Scholes from 2003. By the way ETH did good with Haller for just €35m. 100% sure he'll want vital options in that position for United.
 

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100% this. He needs a core that believes in him and know what he wants. I do believe Man Utd needs a CF. ETH wanted (at Ajax) a player the can receive the ball, hold it in possession and link it to the wings. He also needs to be man the is always on the rigth place. I am unsure ronaldo can perform in that role
CR7 can’t do it even when he was in his prime.
 

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Yeah I've read that, but he already has DVB here, and we need alot more than 2 players, so it's just interesting that there are virtually no links to anything but ex players.
Reports were the transfer list we had planned was thrown out, however there have been many stories that United going forward had planned to do more investigation and what not in to the character of players and backgrounds, an aspect they feel like they have failed in the past.

Arnold said “If the manager has done his homework and feels he needs this player”

Now who knows what is true but if that is the case then surely the heavy links to Ajax players and former Ajax players is because ETH knows them and knows what they are like. If I’m ETH going in to this poisoned chalice I’d want people I know I can trust and count on as his budding reputation is on the line here.

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