Upfront vs spread over 3 - 5 years make a huge difference too. Barca need money now.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Just double checked that it isn't April fools today with report on slabbhead
Instead of earning back the money from the Andreas Money and use it maybe to transfers, we earn back the glazers dividends
Instead of earning back the money from the Andreas Money and use it maybe to transfers, we earn back the glazers dividends
Sounds like a story we've released to the press to give maguire a bit of good publicity and change the narrative around him. There were a few PR stunts this summer while away with England to make him seem like a good guy too.
Are people that deluded/easily fooled that they fall for those Maguire links?
Big 72 hours ahead 
Is Frenkie most comparable to Xabi Alonso? Never really watched him play but my understanding is that he's positionally sound, dictates from deep but also capable of bursts forward.
Sounds like a deal is close. The tone of the stories have shifted to a more positive one
I don't think anyone cares at this point.
The average IQ is 100...
Says more about FDJ's ambition ...don't you think?
Good signing when finalised. Who’s next then because De Jong is replacing one of our 2 midfielders lost, who will be replacing Matic for example just to get us back to the level we were last season? Are we counting on Donny? I don’t see it working against most opposition, we will get overrun as usual without a top quality defensive minded midfielder providing cover to our defence.
I am however excited about the quick transfer business that will reportedly happen once FDJ is complete.
I am however excited about the quick transfer business that will reportedly happen once FDJ is complete.
Big day today.
No, really. You just wait and see.
No, really. You just wait and see.
Seems that FDJ agent wants 5 million
I can't think of a CB that would fit worse into Barca's style. They will resign Dmytro Chyhrynskyi before they bid on Maguire.
How do you know we haven't? There's no way they've been negotiating with Barca this entire time for De Jong to turn around and be like "no ta, I'm happy where I'm am. Get rekt scrub".
I would assume that has already been taken care of, it usually is.
My only concern with FDJ obsession is how will we play in case he gets injured…. It’s a serious question…..given how desperately ETH wants him and he is integral to his style of play….. who will replace him in case of a short term injury (hopefully no long term)….
Can Eriksen be the answer?
Can Eriksen be the answer?
Take it out of the Glazers dividends
No.
Based on the reports I saw, they wanted 80M-85M euros as guaranteed fee, they are getting 80M as fee + add-ons, which is still good work by the club.
In 2019, they paid Ajax 75M in guaranteed fees alone, rising to 86M, as 22 year old, so it stands to logic that FCB will demand huge fee for him, but due to their current financial issues, their hands are a bit tied and United took advantage of that, we get the 25 year old version of De Jong, at only 80M total.
In comparison, Aurélien Tchouameni who is 22 years old, cost Madrid 80M euros in guaranteed fees alone, up to 100M with add-ons, Rodri cost city around 73M euros as a 23 years old in 2019 when they paid the release clause, Moyes said it would take 150m to get Rice, you get where I am going with this.
Can you imagine him next to Lenglet.
Sadcafe strikes again.
Don’t be silly
What have you seen to suggest that
Anything for the negative spin.
Aye, just like how David Silva had no ambition in 2010, or Gündoğan in 2016.
Woodwardnomics?
Hannibal Mejbri
You cant. Same as madrid cant replace modric when injured over past seasons. Or why Barcelona couldnt replace xavi when injured. Eriksen plays higher up the pitch than frenkie. A understudy as madrid have for modric would be good.
i was just saying... to be fair, I've seen very little of himWhat have you seen to suggest that
It was said from the start they would be happy to sell if they get close to recouping the fee they paid for De Jong. So if we are paying 80m euros guaranteed then I'd say that's about that.
Doesn't matter what Marid paid for Tchouameni since that happened after what Barca wanted was reported. We're only going by the reports but we're paying pretty much what Barca originally wanted in a guaranteed fee, where we seem to have negotiated is the structure (guessing how much is upfront and how much installments)
We’re supposedly paying them 63m euros guaranteed plus 17m euros add-ons. That seems like a good deal to me that leaves plenty in the pot this summer for other deals.
Now people are making up reasons to be sad/negative 
I know. Some people really have no patience and just look for anything to moan about.
"Ten Hag knows the Dutch international from their time together at Ajax. He understands the way De Jong plays and knows he would be perfect for the plans he has for his time at Old Trafford.
The alternatives, it has been established, simply do not fit the template or are not good enough.
Ten Hag wants to strengthen a range of positions - and he certainly wants an attacker. But central midfield is key and there is a feeling if De Jong is not part of the package, the new manager will be operating from a weaker position than he wanted."
From Simon Stone. Just for those still asking why we the club is obsessed with this transfer
The alternatives, it has been established, simply do not fit the template or are not good enough.
Ten Hag wants to strengthen a range of positions - and he certainly wants an attacker. But central midfield is key and there is a feeling if De Jong is not part of the package, the new manager will be operating from a weaker position than he wanted."
From Simon Stone. Just for those still asking why we the club is obsessed with this transfer
Nope, nothing like Xabi Alonso. He's more dynamic and less calculated than the Spaniard. He's not your typical regista tempo setter, but rather someone who'll bail the team out when under press with the bursts you mentioned. These are probably his strongest asset. He's much more comparable to Verratti or Kovacic.
Just now?Now people are making up reasons to be sad/negative
It's exactly the same....spot on, FDJ is taking a risk with his career but good for him, let's hope he becomes a legend, like such as Bryan Robson and not Paul Pogba!!
What? FDJ is taking a big risk coming to us, just now, hope it pays off for him ...and us!
He is Ericksen's replacement if anything.
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