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Frenkie to United?


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mitchmouse

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Can someone remind me how quickly we signed RvP. I tend to remember hearing about one day and him wearing the shirt the next. Meanwhile, Day 377...
 

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my question was there in the thread. Have we signed anyone yet? Have our rivals? I don't care what month it is - pre-season training has started. We're behind our rivals already...
So just to ask, based on the now widely reported fees from very reputable journos ' A fee of an initial €65m (£56.2m) plus add-ons that could take it to €85m' we have taken it down from the 85 mill+ add-ons Barcelona were well reported to have initially quoted. Should we not have negotiated?
 

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Guess we're waiting for barcelona to agree a fee for lewa before they confirm this one.

My pants are unzipped though. I am ready.
 

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Can someone remind me how quickly we signed RvP. I tend to remember hearing about one day and him wearing the shirt the next. Meanwhile, Day 377...
I really don't understand people coming here only to moan about everything. Does it make you feel better to post here?
 

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The thing that I don't udnerstand here is that you have a list of players that aren't needed and have been barely used by PSG but somehow insist on linking it to something that happened earlier this month.

Just to illustrate my point in the league last season, Kurzawa played around 0 minutes for PSG last season. Paredes played 800 minutes, Abdou Diallo 800 minutes, Icardi 1k minutes, Herrera 1k minutes and Draxler 500 minutes. All of these players are at best third options and some are 4-5 options with both Tuchel and Pochettino choosing to use players out of position before using them. It has nothing to do with Mbappé or FFP or PSG being mean, they are just their deadwood.

Also the list is a speculation from Le Parisien after Al Khelaifi said that certain players are for free to go but that if they want to stay, they will have to fight for their place and that coasting won't be accepted.
Every club in the world has deadwood and no one has really managed to get rid of that level of wages in one go, so if PSG do manage it I'll think there's something shady going on (i.e., FFP shenanigans)

Re: PSG being mean, the claim by AS is that they're being forced to train away from the first team, parking passes revoked, use different changing rooms etc. That's not standard practice at football clubs. Maybe true or maybe a lie, we'll see.
 

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I really don't understand people coming here only to moan about everything. Does it make you feel better to post here?
Some are so intent on reveling in their misery of being a United fan that they lose all perspective, like an old nan sat at home alone everyday who becomes convinced her street is the epicenter of crime in the entire city and will rant to anyone in earshot about it.

To be fair to Nana there was that guy cooking meth in the shed next door, but that was months ago.
 

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Every club in the world has deadwood and no one has really managed to get rid of that level of wages in one go, so if PSG do manage it I'll think there's something shady going on (i.e., FFP shenanigans)

Re: PSG being mean, the claim by AS is that they're being forced to train away from the first team, parking passes revoked, use different changing rooms etc. That's not standard practice at football clubs. Maybe true or maybe a lie, we'll see.
The claim doesn't come from AS. AS liftedit off Le Parisien and decided to turn it into some facts which it isn't. At the moment nothing happened outside of PSG telling players that they will have to behave and fight for their place.
 

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Can someone remind me how quickly we signed RvP. I tend to remember hearing about one day and him wearing the shirt the next. Meanwhile, Day 377...
How quickly did we seem to agree a fee for Malacia? I seem to recall he was Lyon bound one day and a done dealio here the next.
 

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Barcelona selling off their TV rights is pretty catastrophic long term, no?
Meh it's only a small percentage of the Spanish league rights, doesn't include UCL so not likely to be catastrophic, especially considering time value of money
 

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Barcelona selling off their TV rights is pretty catastrophic long term, no?
You don't understand. They're levers. Normal clubs would "sell off" assets and rights but Barcelona, Masters of Football, Poets, Scholars, Gods, use a system of winches and pulleys to operate. They trade in ether and Ambrosia, not Euros. They sleep on beds made out of diamonds and their diamonds are made by hand, as the carbon is crushed under Barcelona's greatness.

If you wanted to be uneducated you could argue that Barcelona are a regular family that have no money but riddled with Klarna debt to pay for their house, car, and holidays so they can post on Instagram about how amazing their life is. But the reality is that they're Barcelona, Lions and Eagles of Football, The Last Donut in the Box, GOATS.
 
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:lol: aye that'll do it
Go away for an hour and come back to see six message alerts. Thought Mr Angry had reported me to the mods again and I was getting ANOTHER points fine :nervous:

At Castlefield Bowl Saturday. Tim Booth announcing de Jong has signed (in between songs) would go down a treat… none of your poncy piano videos
 

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Barcelona selling off their TV rights is pretty catastrophic long term, no?
What does long term ruin matter compared to swinging their massive knob around and showing the world they are still brilliant because they've signed Lewandolski? Priorities!
 

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You don't understand. They're levers. Normal clubs would "sell off" assets and rights but Barcelona, Masters of Football, Poets, Scholars, Gods, use a system of winches and pulleys to operate. They trade in ether and Ambrosia, not Euros. They sleep on beds made out of diamonds and their diamonds are made by hand, as the carbon is crushed under Barcelona's greatness.

If you wanted to be uneducated you could argue that Barcelona are a regular family that have no money but riddled with Klarna debt to pay for their house, car, and holidays so they can post on Instagram about how amazing their life is. But the reality is that they're Barcelona, Lions and Eagles of Football, The Last Donut in the Box, GOATS.
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Go away for an hour and come back to see six message alerts. Thought Mr Angry had reported me to the mods again and I was getting ANOTHER points fine :nervous:

At Castlefield Bowl Saturday. Tim Booth announcing de Jong has signed (in between songs) would go down a treat… none of your poncy piano videos
Jealous, not seen James in yonks.
 

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From the figures of the 20/21 season they generated €165 million euros TV revenue which makes 10% * 25 = €414 Million.

They've got something worth €400 Million and have sold it for €260 Million. Great business.

Essentially taking a €6 Million loss on their TV rights every year for the cash advance.
 

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From the figures of the 20/21 season they generated €165 million euros TV revenue which makes 10% * 25 = €414 Million.

They've got something worth €400 Million and have sold it for €260 Million. Great business.

Essentially taking a €6 Million loss on their TV rights every year for the cash advance.
Without even taking into account inflation and the almost guaranteed rise in TV deal money 5, 10, 15 years etc. from now.

Its the beginning of the end for them and la liga.

Nobody to blame but themselves for putting out such an inferior product by destroying the competition in their own league for so many decades now.
 

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Without even taking into account inflation and the almost guaranteed rise in TV deal money 5, 10, 15 years etc. from now.

Its the beginning of the end for them and la liga.

Nobody to blame but themselves for putting out such an inferior product by raping their own league for so many decades now.
Absolutely yes. Both deals are pretty bad for them.
 

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So I guess they're not frantically rushing to complete the FDJ deal today then. No doubt it'll be soon though!

Unless of course he means they will end on a profit, but it's not finished yet.
 

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So I guess they're not frantically rushing to complete the FDJ deal today then. No doubt it'll be soon though!

Unless of course he means they will end on a profit, but it's not finished yet.
I thought they needed ~€500 million to break even :confused:

FDJ would mean they can spend more.
 
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