Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Yeah, but that's Ronaldo talking, not the club - they've been tight lipped up to now except to reiterate what they said earlier about him, ie: he's under contract for another year. What I said earlier still stands - the club are not saying anything about the state of their transfer activity. It's mainly press speculation, as it ever was - going back decades.
I am surprised the Spanish PFA have not taken Barca to task. Applying public pressure on a player to take a pay cut is not on.
Footballers want two things. Money and success. Some are more motivated by one than the other. With FDJ it’s impossible to know.
My point was IF he decides he’d rather stay at Barca than move to Utd, and IF he accepts a wage deferral or wage cut, then surely he’d then naturally want Barca to be the most successful team possible, with the best players possible.
Imagine agreeing to stay at a club you supposedly love, and then rather than wanting the club to be the best they can possibly be, you get angry when they sign a world class player like Lewandowski. It makes no sense to me that he’d think like that.
As per my first point though, neither you nor I have any idea what his main motivating factor is. It might solely be money, in which case he should take the highest wages he can. Or it might solely be success, in which case he’d want to be at a team with the best possible players. I guess we’ll see. My best bet is that he agrees a deferral rather than a cut, thus maximising his chances of trophies, and maximising his wealth.
It's Spain, I'm surprised they haven't joined in on it
To still be seeing serious “we should walk away” posts at this point 
Not in the same way through his agent and he soon zipped it after sir Alex got involved didn’t he, eventually playing to win the PL and get us to another CL Final.Yes he fexking did
Preparing a protest as we speak
No, there is a lot of misinformation. You don't know how the club accounts are right now.
I have no idea you're talking about.
We are talking about what could happen, hypothesis. Obviously if FDJ stays Xavi will make him play.
Like FDJ, if he stays, his salary will be lowered or he will leave, he will not stay at Barcelona with his current salary.
Explain the reason for each thing.
When there is no competition a club can make easier decisions and save a lot of money.
Can you imagine that Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, City, Liverpool took away their best players and coaches from their rival?
Bayern, as soon as they had a little pressure, already fired Kovac and Ancelotti and spent eighty million euros for a FB or a large amount of money for Renato Sánchez or €60M for a player in the last year of his contract and having spent a year without play due to injury.
Any argument?
Barcelona wants to give them a salary reduction as well.
No, a club pays a player to be available to the coach, not to play or not play.
Well that's a shocker.
He has a long term contract, if you try to freeze him out of the team due to refusing to accept lower wages than what is stipulated in his contract, he can tear up his contract and move on a free.
Saves them the wages. See, it worked, wages reduced
Barca is the new Nokia. Dont be stupid Frenkie.
I get that but we don’t exactly have the greatest record of briefing the press and getting transfers done efficiently or do you disagree ?
Yet they haven't received the same public shaming and Barcelona fans aren't pressuring them to take wage cuts in the same way they are Frenkie De Jong, even though in reality De Jong should have the least pressure of the 3 to reduce his wages for no reason, since he's not a lifelong Barcelona fan who came through La Masia.
Pretty much this. If what’s holding this up is a difference if 5-10 we need to wrap this up so we can move onto other transfer business. If the hangup is with Frenkie himself on account of residual obligations or his desire to remain in Barcelona it’s time to pull the plug.
You have dozens of posts on the last pages with fake news and then when reality hit you in the face you are going to start with ridiculous conspiracy theories. And that they have explained things to you several times.
A few days ago, Barça was obliged to sell before June 30... And now what? Well, now it will be more fake news.
And the user who said that the club paid me... Check out some of my comments, nobody here is more critical of Laporta than I am.
You're delusional
The Barcelona people are much more tired of Piqué, Busquets and Jordi Alba than FDJ.
If I agree with you here, I don't like to make these things public or put pressure on the player with the fans
I think June 30 is over, right? And if you search there is a comment of mine where I said that Barcelona did not need to sell any player before the end of June because the sale of 10% of the television rights was going to be activated. And what happened in the end? reality check
You are contradicting yourself here. How can Bayern poach the best players and coaches from rivals that due to lack of competition don't exist in the first place?
As if Barcelona faces that much more competition. You guys and Real Madrid have a free reign into the whole Central and South American market.
You club is terribly run and ever other club, be it Man United or Bayern, who are in the unlucky position to have to deal with you are fekked. Deals which would have been completed weeks ago, drag on due to your unstable financial position and your board's megalomania to buy top players despite being broke.
So everything is fine now then?
Barcelona are a scumbag of a club. I’ll enjoy watching their next 20 years
Can someone explain the June 30 deadline? I'm at a total loss. So they needed money from transfers until then but don't now? I have no insight in Barca's finances but this doesn't make much sense does it?
Players don't have a guarantee to play but you can't sideline a player to the stands for months just because he refuses a salary cut.
Such behavior will also unsettle the dressing room and send warning signals to future transfers not to sign for such a club
Hopefully, over the next couple of days, this will be sorted one way or the other, if he doesn't come we need to look at other options quickly and i hope we have been looking at other players just in case
Wasn’t Laporta the dingleberry who sabotaged our deal to sign Ronaldinho as well? Guy is a bonafide pleb and I hope he loses all credibility after this.
Players are signed for the first team, relegating them to the reserves because you fecked up your finances isn't part of their contract
Romano's tweet earlier does shed some light in what appears a dark tunnel. His accuracy has been questionable but generally I think he's reliable when he sticks his neck out. His assertions the last few months with how hard City were pushing for Haaland were correct.
This never really happens, people don't really care.
I think that one was on Peter Kenyon. The bellend.
Not comparable to Fabregas. At least then we had Fellaini to fall back on. If we are stating the season with McFred I’m going to scream. It wouldn’t surprise me though.
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So is there any chance you can keep FdJ and also get Lewa and Raphinha and maybe even Kounde without selling your soul (TV revenues)?
As far as I can tell it's impossible.
Then the question is what do you value more? FdJ or your future TV money for a really long time?
It's impossible for them to register any new players as it stands.
Barcelona need to sell the other 15% of the television rights to pay the losses of these years and return to 1:1.
There is talk of an amount close to €350M+
The sale of 49% BLM for €300M right now is stopped because it is being said that it is not necessary. We'll see how it ends.
This year's wage bill is €560M and includes 100M+ in deferred salaries, it can also include all or part of Messi's loyalty bonus, it is said to be about €30.
Once this is paid the wage bill will fall, it will also depend on what is signed with its corresponding salary and amortization and what is sold, loaned and cut in wages.
There are still many variants to make drastic conclusions.
And last year's losses are inflated by €200M+ for Laporta's convenience.
We will have to wait a few weeks to see the economic balance of this year and until September to see the next budget.
And manager. I'd say ETH is furious.
I'm aware of this so what misinformations have I been spreading specifically?
How many more tweets that "De Jong deal still on but taking longer than anticipated..." My god this is beating a dead dog into the ground.
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