Do you think Ajax are idiots?
Ajax should hire you, if you are not already their staff.
Maybe they should also add add-ons based on player's ability to put on socks and shoe, wearing shinpad and also wearing shorts to show ManUtd logo on the front.
Exactly. It's beyond me why you all think Antony should be cheaper. Antony is younger, already challenging those players for their NT spot and simply has a higher ceiling. He may not have PL experience, but then he has CL experience which they don't have. Antony should actually be more expensive than Raphinha and Richarlison because Antony is pretty much at their level at this already and actually has the potential to grow to world class level (unlike Raphinha and Richarlison who are good, but this is what it is). If Richarlison and Raphinha would be the same players they are right now but played for Olympiakos, no one would rate them as £60-£65m players. Yet now you act like it's a decent fee for them. Players are not better just because they have Premier League experience.
You can try to be funny, I'm just saying it the way it is. Ajax have sold many players with add-ons in the past years and details that came out about the add-ons always suggested that the vast majority of the add-ons are related to very realistic goals. I see no reason why Ajax would change it's stance on that. Especially not when negotiating about players that Ajax don't want or need to sell (hence Ajax holds the leverage).
You laughed at me when I first mentioned Martial. Well, you're not laughing now are you?
we're basically stuck between him and dybala and I reckon dybala is worse.
It would be the right response from one of the world's richest clubs to their weakest season in ages. Only worry would be the lack of goals despite the spending but we have to put trust in ETHI’ll be very surprised if we sign five players this summer
Tyrell, Eriksen, De Jong, Martinez and Antony all in one window? That’s basically half a new team
Yeah no RB & striker worries me
I haven’t said he should be cheaper. I think £60m is the going rate! That’s what I’ve just said.
I think Antony is that rare gem that’s got pace, tricky, crowd pleaser and genuine left footed right winger a 22 year old Mo Salah 8 years ago was £30-40m so I guess with no CL and the state we are in I think £100m for The two Ajax lads Martinez £43M and £57M is about right now if we offset that with £15M Bailly, £5M Phil Jones, £10M Pereira and T Chong £5M as outgoings would offset the investment to a net position of £65M if we add Dybala as a free then for me that’s good business, the problem is selling the players who are on ridiculous contracts. With what’s going on with Ronaldo it makes me wonder why we didn’t get Cavani to extend for 1 season with only wages as a cost and someone if is fit would fit into Ten Hags system better fir one season.
I know you didn't say that. 'You' was meant in plural in this case and referring to the general opinions here. Obviously I saw that you were advocating the same thing.
Even £40M is a good deal for him at 26
Good man. We can agree we are right then and these peasants are wrong.
This money doesn’t exist.
£50m even without add ons is very much what Antony is worth max.
Isn't that pretty much what fees based on appearances are?
No, player should be on the pitch playing mins. You can still wear sock, shoe, shorts and be unused sub.
You are absolutely kidding your self if you think you get those two for £63m
Maybe so but we are not that great at negotiating so I expect £55-58M and yes that’s far too much but we are the desperate fans of this transfer window are we not ?
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It may be a realistic value, but Ajax can sell him for that value next season even if he doesn't have an extraordinary season. However with another opportunity for him to shine in CL and a WC coming up and since he has all the talent to make an impact at any level, he can easily have an increased value next season. Since Ajax don't want to sell right, he has 3 years left on his contract and there's a good possibility his value will increase (significantly) in the next 12 months, Ajax are not selling for a reasonable fee.
£67 million and it wouldn't be that far off, reported to be 30-50 million euros each depending on who you trust. Don't forget Gnabry's contract has 1 year left and Inter only paid 12 million euros for Dumfries who had an inconsistent season, not to mention their need to raise money.
Try tripling that...he signed a new contract a month ago
And they bought him for 26m€. The price initially mentioned isn't close to be realistic.Try tripling that...he signed a new contract a month ago
Surely with a contract to 2027 he won't move for less than €100mill IMO.
Don't think we'll get de Jong. Just seems too much of a convoluted situation with too much at stake for Barca and de Jong. Suspect he'll stay and at some point we'll hear that they've ironed out the issues with the payments amicably.I’ll be very surprised if we sign five players this summer
Tyrell, Eriksen, De Jong, Martinez and Antony all in one window? That’s basically half a new team
Really depends if his agent is prepared to kick up a fuss about his clients treatment and demand money he's owed
Yeah that's it. If he's going to insist on this money then I don't think he'll get his move, unless we cough up the extra £8m or so.
Similar except he's dwarfed by Robben in the attribute that Robben is reknown for.
Who would Ten Hag rather have?
As a Dutchie who's seen a lot of all of them; in combination I would go for Martinez + Antony. I don't think Danjuma's got what it takes. Villarreal is his limit.
About as absurd as suggesting he's Mane level. Yeah I've seen him play. You only have to watch a 5 minute highlight video to see the limitations in his game. Mane can breeze past people with his pace and dribbling ability, Antony can't. He's closer to Sancho / Lallana in the sense that he's very good on the ball, can do a silky little dribble / pass but won't be running past static defences.
Lallana. Have you ever seen Antony play? Sure he needs to improve himself. He is 22. The sky is the limit for him though. Ten Hag knows this and that's why he wants him.
