You'll have your own Neymar soon if you get Antony. Albeit a shit version of Neymar.
Is Neymar a childish brat?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
I didn't realise he actually got the penalty and scored it too. What scum
Not sure what your point is here?? Preseason is to get yourself ready and up to speed for the real season. No idea why you don't think its sensible to practice a massive part of your game .
Would love to see him In the prem, could be genius or go horribly wrong. You got to feel he’s never going to really showcase his best at PSG.
100% prat.
That third leg of the defender clearly tripped him, you moaning gits.
A shoplifter who's hat is so big nobody suspects anything when he's walking out with a bag of groceries above his head is an artist, a person throwing himself to the ground, is not. Both are amoral.
Why would you ever dive in a friendly ...
He is, like many professional sportsmen, a complete man-child and it's not all his fault. How the hell can he have a properly developed sense of self, reality, justice or perspective?
That's one thing some people don't get, if some grew up in the same circumstances, they could/would be as bad if not worse. Neymar is a brat on the field, I honestly never really liked his attitude, but he's a decent guy off it from what others who have dealt with him say, and he seems to stay out of trouble. He's also the longest-lasting Brazilian sensation we've had in forever. Most burn out from partying too much.
There are lots of players that grow up in poor areas; he is a bell-end.
Modric
Born into the war-torn Balkans, his grandfather was shot dead in the conflict when Modric was just six years old
Moses;
Moses’ parents were both killed in religious clashes when he was just 11 years old.
Di Maria
Worked at a coal mine with his sisters and father
Longest Brazilian Sensation we've had in forever hay:
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Yeah, Rivaldo, Marcelo, and Roberto Carlos weren't Brazilian sensations the way I'm talking about. They didn't have tremendous, worldwide hype when they were 16-17, which is going to affect your personality and the way you grow up, same can be said of your other examples. You're comparing apples and oranges, only people that come close recently to Brazilian sensation in the sense I meant are R9, R10, and Robinho; and Neymar's been far more professional than they have been in their careers. It has nothing to do with growing up in poor areas, it has to do with the world bending over backwards for you since you were still a teenager and how that affects your mentality growing up.
That was actually a clean penalty. Even in the angle that's circling the net you can see the opposing player's ankle twist after coming into contact. He swipes away at his planted foot. Luckily there's not much force behind it so the foot just kinda bounces off Neymar. Otherwise both footballers risk injury there. He does probably get grazed with studs a bit, which is usually painful.
The jump after the sweep is a reflex, 99.9% professional players will do the same to protect themselves. Especially given the dude's history with that ankle. I mean, he is a manchild prone to diving and all manners of hyper exaggeration, but the reaction that people have had to this is just a sad reflection of how internet and social media work nowadays. Mob mentality and pitchforks.
The jump after the sweep is a reflex, 99.9% professional players will do the same to protect themselves. Especially given the dude's history with that ankle. I mean, he is a manchild prone to diving and all manners of hyper exaggeration, but the reaction that people have had to this is just a sad reflection of how internet and social media work nowadays. Mob mentality and pitchforks.
That is Salah diving levels
Yep. You can see it clearly in that gif and in this tweet too:
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= Bell end.
You seem to think I'm arguing against that, I'm not. I'm saying you probably would have been as much of a bell-end too, if not even more so, under the same circumstances. Oh and that your other examples had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
Thats a bit of a sweeping statement, like saying all Brazilian born footballers are party animals.
Gotta love the cafters for being so bored by the lack of transfers that they dig up a thread to trash Neymar for diving when there was a clear foul on any decent angle you look at Get a life guys ^^
Get a life guys ^^Eh, sure it might be, but it's not an outlandish assumption in your regard or if I put myself as well, we don't even have to look at just sports either, but there's always exceptions. I'm saying the odds would have been very much against us to handle it any better if we grew up with the attention/fame he did.
It's easy to judge someone, but if you haven't been through the same circumstances, like insane stardom and adoration before you're even an adult and fully developed mentally or as a person, it's all fine calling them names, they're public figures, and Neymar definitely is a petulant brat, but how would we have turned out? I'm saying Neymar's done pretty damn well given his circumstances, or if we compare him to other players who have gone through a similar situation.
Yeah, I saw one other angle, but I still think it's a dive. If you have a conclusive one, I'd love to see it.Gotta love the cafters for being so bored by the lack of transfers that they dig up a thread to trash Neymar for diving when there was a clear foul on any decent angle you look at
I mean, the slow-mo one above clearly shows the defenders foot bouncing off of Neymar. It's a kick, and not a light one at that. There's no phyics on Planet Earth that let you retract your leg like that unless you hit something. Even the defenders reaction afterwards looks like an apologetic raise of hand.
What's more childish, being a childish brat on a football pitch or spending your time on an online forum calling grown men childish brats?
Also yes of course he is, does the Pope crap in the wood?
Also yes of course he is, does the Pope crap in the wood?
The right angle seems pretty clear to me. Of course Neymar exagerates but at this point players are just programmed to do that. The contact exists.
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Preseason is there to sharpen your skills and gear up for the new season. Today Neymar learnt that he needs to work better on his diving skills. This was too obvious.
Salah is one of the most awkward divers. He mostly dives as an afterthought.That is Salah diving levels
Not a dive. Trailing leg clearly got him
Haha so true
I've seen a lot of debate about this. From one angle it does appear that he gets clipped. Also, there didn't seem to be much in the way of protestation by the opponents. However, Ney does go down like he's been shot, as usual
Yeah, I think if this was another player most people wouldn't even care, because it's a friendly and who cares, but with Neymar it's an opportunity for people to give him grief and have a debate over it.I've seen a lot of debate about this. From one angle it does appear that he gets clipped. Also, there didn't seem to be much in the way of protestation by the opponents. However, Ney does go down like he's been shot, as usual
Even that second angle, I guess there's a very slight contact, his foot barely seems to get touched, and he's definitely made a meal of it but Ney's had some pretty serious injuries to his ankles, so I could see why he would dive or enhance the contact. Players don't always dive just to dive, they're also trying to protect their body and legs from being planted on the ground too much during a contact and avoid serious injuries.
There was a contact but no way his falling animation is natural. He dived as he has been shot by a sniper.
This is just a dumb post - if you can't discuss the antics of a footballer on a football forum due to ifs and buts then what's the point of the forum?
No one said you can't discuss it, but I think it's even dumber to ignore why someone behaves the way they do, it is much easier to put labels on them though and generalize them as a person for what we see them do in a competitive sports. I find that much dumber.
He is the most fouled player in football by a wide margin. I think I saw a stat about it somewhere.
Which is why I have no issues with him jumping, falling, avoiding contact etc. It is the rolling around and screaming when he is barely touched like in this friendly which is stupid.
Yeah, the faintest contact on his foot explains why he looks like a sniper shot him.Fair
Neymar has been more professional than Ronaldo? Codswallop. Ronaldo's knees gave up, nothing to do with partying.
Kaká was a worldwide sensation, more so than fecking Robinho, and he turned out pretty well. Robinho was just not very good, a bit like Gabriel Jesus. You can stick Vinicius Jr in that group and he's doing alright...
You are just extrapolating Ronaldinho to all things Brazilian.
Ronaldo was famously unprofessional- he was the ultimate party animal. Some players at Barca at the time stated that he used to be constantly turning up to training half cut and after zero sleep cos he was out clubbing until 6am. It may well have been the case that his injuries were caused by or exacerbated by his lifestyle.
I could well be mistaken but there seemed to be much less hype about Kaka when he was picked up quite cheap by Milan at around age 20 than there was around Robinho when he moved to Real at roughly the same age- there's no denying that Kaka turned out a hell of a lot better than Robinho did but a 16 year old Robinho definitely had more hype surrounding him than a 16 year old Kaka did.
I agree with you on Vinicius though. He seems to have a top mentality.
Yeah, Ronaldo is famous for throwing up great parties, but that's part of who he is in a positive way. He was Mr Sunshine and his positive attitude was contagious.
Up until his knee problems he was fit as a fiddle and, as you mention, he did show up for training. He wasn't jetting off to sister birthdays, extending his holidays, etc.
By his own account, was only ever late for training twice in his career. He hated training, particularly Cuper's at Inter, but not liking it doesn't make you unprofessional either if you get on with it. Not the ultimate professional, sure, but miles ahead of Neymar.
Re: Kaká, I was living in Brazil at the time and distinctly remember reporting to the caf on him and Robinho. I actually said at the time Kaká was distinctly better (not just more developed) and it was a shame Diego Ribas was such a shortarse because he would turn out a better footballer and pro than Robinho.