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There just isn’t a solution here that gives him the three things he wants:
- European team in the CL
- Team built around him and his deficiencies
- Team that can pay his enormous salaries

Many clubs would take him and satisfy two of the three conditions, but can’t think of a single one that would satisfy all three. He’s gonna have to pick what his priorities actually are.
Indeed. Indeed.
 

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Atletico's values are "generosity and humility"? Since when? They've been the biggest bunch of shithouses in Europe for ages.
They kindly and humbly dish out what they do. The humility is in knowing they must do so in order to remain competitive. :angel::p
 

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Why would he want to rescind the contract? Most likely it is because he has an offer from a club that we won’t sell him to. In PL only Chelsea can match his salary and CL demand.

We need to stick to our position and ask him to get an offer that suits us. Else write his salary off for this year. Letting him dictate terms is going to set bad precedence. Will send a message also that club comes first.

He has crossed the line with these leaks and embarrassed himself by getting rejected by everyone.
 

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When will our fans group get of there arse and make a statement that ronaldo needs to be cut loose because no player is bigger than the club ?
Won't be surprised if opinions are divided between people who think he's a legend and people who thinks he's a disgrace.

If he wants to leave, he should just buy out his own contract. He can afford it anyway. I'm sure there'll be clubs willing to take him on a free. Who cares if he goes to a Premier League rival. Would be better if it was Chelsea just to see a Tuchel meltdown.

When he finally fecks off, I'll be glad to see his fans feck off as well. Those weird ones who support whatever club his at like football was an individual game or something.
 

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We wont terminate his contract.. we wouldnt want him to go to a PL club..
He can bring in an offer... take a wage cut at his new club to help them with the transfer fee if that is an issue, and leave..
I think most fans would be pretty happy to see him go..

This whole thing is hilarious.. the way clubs are coming out distancing themselves from a move is really funny.
 

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He scores goals, even in that dysfunctional set up of last year. 2 and a half years off 40 btw. This is a problem we didnt need this summer, priority should have been sorting the substandard midfield, thats the one area (personnel-wise) where we are seriously far behind the competition.
Who scored goals for City or Chelsea last season? Two teams we finished far behind.
You keep saying Ronaldo scored goals in a dysfunctional team but fail to acknowledge he was one of the reasons the attack was dysfunctional.
 

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We wont terminate his contract.. we wouldnt want him to go to a PL club..
He can bring in an offer... take a wage cut at his new club to help them with the transfer fee if that is an issue, and leave..
I think most fans would be pretty happy to see him go..

This whole thing is hilarious.. the way clubs are coming out distancing themselves from a move is really funny.
I don't think a CL club would take him to be honest. He wouldn't fit in anywhere.
His only hope is Chelsea have a poor start to the season and really start to panic, given the window carries over for a few weeks into the season.
 

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I would like us to release him and normally don't care where he goes.
However, our so called legend is trying to terminate his contract so he can possibly go to a rival for free. That's not on.
If he wants to go there, tell them to bring an offer.
 

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So if we sell him for 2M £ it makes any difference?
Or do we need 6M £?

The club and others couldn't care less if there is a fee or not. Free releases are quite common, especially if you have players with over valued wages. They turn into zero or even negative value because of their salary.
Europe is full of formerly known players sitting their contracts out on some bench. Every league has a few of those overpaid backup goalies still at their clubs.
They all got the chance to determine their contracts but they don't want to because they rather make more money than play more minutes.

Letting Ronaldo go would in no way set a precedent, the only reason it does not happen too often is because the players won't agree. I'm sure Jones, Bailly, Romero or Lingard all had the offer to nullify their contracts at one time.

Ronaldos salary costs the club over 20M a year.
Letting him go now means losing a very hypothetical fee which no club realistically would pay. And we already knew that last summer, so those 15M were not invested in hopefor profit on that.
Then why did united had to pay Juventus a transfer fee? United could also got him free.

Breaking contract free is only when the club thinks the player is a negative investment and better to drop the contract.
If other clubs cant pay a transfer fee, he stays. Anything else will set a precedent that United are mugs.
 

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Who scored goals for City or Chelsea last season? Two teams we finished far behind.
You keep saying Ronaldo scored goals in a dysfunctional team but fail to acknowledge he was one of the reasons the attack was dysfunctional.
This, United scored 16 goals fewer than the season before, with Rashford and Fernandes scored 15 goals fewer than the previous season as soon as he came into the team. And of that 5 of Fernandes' 10 goals were in games where Ronaldo didn't play.
 

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It was reported by that Man Utd fella who has ties to Ronaldo that he had an agreement with Chelsea already before Tuchel personally vetoed the move. Think a Chelsea move is a nonstarter even on a free since Tuchel rightly believes it'd be a wrong fit and would have negative ramifications in his dressing room
That is only if Tuchel has such command over transfers or he is bigger than Chelsea. American owner calls the shots when it comes to commercial revenue. Also Tuchel is no Conte to drop and leave.
 

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This, United scored 16 goals fewer than the season before, with Rashford and Fernandes scored 15 goals fewer than the previous season as soon as he came into the team. And of that 5 of Fernandes' 10 goals were in games where Ronaldo didn't play.
We also got far fewer penalties. 2 of which Fernandes missed. Rashford being unable to control the ball or run in a straight line surely can’t be Ronaldo’s fault either.
 

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It's even the cheek of asking the club to break his contract. It still has a year and an option of an additional year.
As much as I want him gone, the club are right to tell him to feck off wuth such a suggestion.
If hes so desperate, he should buy it out. I hear he's worth £500m+.
 

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That is only if Tuchel has such command over transfers or he is bigger than Chelsea. American owner calls the shots when it comes to commercial revenue. Also Tuchel is no Conte to drop and leave.
I don't see Tuchel putting up with getting Ronaldo shoved down his throat. If Boehly tries that, he might have a new striker as well as a vacancy for the manager job.
 

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Then why did united had to pay Juventus a transfer fee? United could also got him free.

Breaking contract free is only when the club thinks the player is a negative investment and better to drop the contract.
If other clubs cant pay a transfer fee, he stays. Anything else will set a precedent that United are mugs.
No United obviously couldn't get him for free, that's why they had to pay Juve?!

Exactly, breaking a player free is an option when said club thinks that keeping the player at his wages is negative investment.
It happens quite often and we could easily do this with Ronaldo.

If we think an unhappy Ronaldo will cause damage for 480k a week, I'd pretty much call that a negative investment.
Forcing someone to pay a symbolical fee of 5 Mio looks just a bit childish and is a gamble in this case, doesn't impact our transfer business at all.
 

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We also got far fewer penalties. 2 of which Fernandes missed. Rashford being unable to control the ball or run in a straight line surely can’t be Ronaldo’s fault either.
Why did we get fewer penalties? Ronaldo doesn't dribble at pace, Martial won 6-7 penalties in a previous season because he can run directly at defenders, you don't get penalties from nowhere.
 

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No United obviously couldn't get him for free, that's why they had to pay Juve?!

Exactly, breaking a player free is an option when said club thinks that keeping the player at his wages is negative investment.
It happens quite often and we could easily do this with Ronaldo.

If we think an unhappy Ronaldo will cause damage for 480k a week, I'd pretty much call that a negative investment.
Forcing someone to pay a symbolical fee of 5 Mio looks just a bit childish and is a gamble in this case, doesn't impact our transfer business at all.
That's very simplistic. Players have their contracts terminated when they have no resale value, wages outweigh potential resale value and they have no value on the pitch.
No club on the planet is giving away a player that just scored 24 goals and has effectively 2 years left on his contract for free.
To do that and then see said player go to a rival is ludicrous.
 

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No clubs made any enquiries.

So I presume Mendes has been told no club wants to pay a fee.

Fine. Not our problem.

Then he wants his contract terminated so he can leave for free and, presumably, still pocket a 350K+ per week contract.

Okay, so we're subsidising Ronaldo? So he can pocket a signing on fee AND a higher wage?

How about we pocket 10-15M and he cuts his wage demand by 200K.
 

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Why doesnt he buy himself out of his contract - then he can feck off wherever he pleases? The guys has more money than some countries - transfer fee is £25mil. He's got that sloshing around hasnt he??
Feck him and Gorgeous Jorge Mendes!!
 

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Why did we get fewer penalties? Ronaldo doesn't dribble at pace, Martial won 6-7 penalties in a previous season because he can run directly at defenders, you don't get penalties from nowhere.
We did sometimes! And if Bruno had kept scoring penalties, he would have got 6 more goals.
 

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No clubs made any enquiries.

So I presume Mendes has been told no club wants to pay a fee.

Fine. Not our problem.

Then he wants his contract terminated so he can leave for free and, presumably, still pocket a 350K+ per week contract.

Okay, so we're subsidising Ronaldo? So he can pocket a signing on fee AND a higher wage?

How about we pocket 10-15M and he cuts his wage demand by 200K.
I think he and Mendes can get him a CL club if he’s totally “free” - which is why they’re begging to be let out of the contract. Wankers.
 

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Ronaldo in May after ETH confirmed, at the end of the season:
“I hope we have success, of course, because, if you have success, all of Manchester is going to have success as well. I wish him the best.
“We are happy and excited, not only as players, but the supporters as well.
“I wish him the best and let’s believe that, next year, we are going to win trophies.”
I wouldn't put too much stock into quotes like that. None of us know what went on behind the scenes.

Maybe he sounded the club out as soon as the season ended because he wants CL football, maybe he saw the summer transfer window and got frustrated and wanted to leave at that point, maybe he just dropped it on the club and the media completely out of the blue, who knows.

My main problem is that this isn't an isolated incident for United. For the last few seasons we've constantly had similar disruptions. De Gea wanted to leave and we ended up giving an out of form keeper a ridiculously large contract to get him to stay, Pogba angled for a move away constantly and along with the disruption that caused, the club suffered the embarrassment of losing the same player twice on free transfers after spending a world record fee to bring him back.

The fact that these things keep happening tells me as an outsider that the club has a real problem with player power, recruitment and professional organisation.

That's why regardless of who is more to blame here, it's embarrassing for both parties. Seeing yet another summer where our preparation is disrupted by our best player wanting to leave feels like history repeating itself. Seeing our legendary former manager and the board travel into Carrington for crisis talks with our want away star sucks any optimism out of the supposed fresh start of the Ten Haag era.
 

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I wouldn't put too much stock into quotes like that. None of us know what went on behind the scenes.

Maybe he sounded the club out as soon as the season ended because he wants CL football, maybe he saw the summer transfer window and got frustrated and wanted to leave at that point, maybe he just dropped it on the club and the media completely out of the blue, who knows.

My main problem is that this isn't an isolated incident for United. For the last few seasons we've constantly had similar disruptions. De Gea wanted to leave and we ended up giving an out of form keeper a ridiculously large contract to get him to stay, Pogba angled for a move away constantly and along with the disruption that caused, the club suffered the embarrassment of losing the same player twice on free transfers after spending a world record fee to bring him back.

The fact that these things keep happening tells me as an outsider that the club has a real problem with player power, recruitment and professional organisation.

That's why regardless of who is more to blame here, it's embarrassing for both parties. Seeing yet another summer where our preparation is disrupted by our best player wanting to leave feels like history repeating itself. Seeing our legendary former manager and the board travel into Carrington for crisis talks with our want away star sucks any optimism out of the supposed fresh start of the Ten Haag era.
Yeah, Well, You Know, That's Just, Like, Your Opinion, Man
 

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Not so sure about that. He joined a 'finished article' that was a dominant Juve team and took them so far backwards. Never even came close to winning the CL.
Juve were far far from the finished article.

Their midfield was absolutely dogshite and aging.

About 50% of the players he played with in his first season there are in MLS or retired

They got away with it as long as they did because they had no competition in Serie A at the time so we’re able to mask their actual level compared to other top European teams.
 
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We did sometimes! And if Bruno had kept scoring penalties, he would have got 6 more goals.
We do sometimes, but winning penalties is also an after effect of a team playing well and the team was so static up front that it was unlikely we were less likely to win penalties and create chances than previous seasons.
 

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I think he and Mendes can get him a CL club if he’s totally “free” - which is why they’re begging to be let out of the contract. Wankers.
He'll still be demanding a 300K+ contract and could end up with a signing on fee.

We'll be subsidising his move.
 

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I wouldn't put too much stock into quotes like that. None of us know what went on behind the scenes.

Maybe he sounded the club out as soon as the season ended because he wants CL football, maybe he saw the summer transfer window and got frustrated and wanted to leave at that point, maybe he just dropped it on the club and the media completely out of the blue, who knows.

My main problem is that this isn't an isolated incident for United. For the last few seasons we've constantly had similar disruptions. De Gea wanted to leave and we ended up giving an out of form keeper a ridiculously large contract to get him to stay, Pogba angled for a move away constantly and along with the disruption that caused, the club suffered the embarrassment of losing the same player twice on free transfers after spending a world record fee to bring him back.

The fact that these things keep happening tells me as an outsider that the club has a real problem with player power, recruitment and professional organisation.

That's why regardless of who is more to blame here, it's embarrassing for both parties. Seeing yet another summer where our preparation is disrupted by our best player wanting to leave feels like history repeating itself. Seeing our legendary former manager and the board travel into Carrington for crisis talks with our want away star sucks any optimism out of the supposed fresh start of the Ten Haag era.
Good post.
 

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He'll still be demanding a 300K+ contract and could end up with a signing on fee.

We'll be subsidising his move.
He can demand what he wants, doesn't mean he'd get it

But by cutting out united, it would all come down to him
 

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The fact that these things keep happening tells me as an outsider that the club has a real problem with player power, recruitment and professional organisation.
It is quite obvious. Look at barca and how did they rebuild in one summer. Look at our current squad and look how the club is rebuilding under a new CEO. Zero planning, no scouting, begging a 37 yr old to stay while ignoring the fact that the squad needs major surgery. Probably most incompetent persons in football business runs the club.
 

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We do sometimes, but winning penalties is also an after effect of a team playing well and the team was so static up front that it was unlikely we were less likely to win penalties and create chances than previous seasons.
Yeah you are right. Not always of course, but of course having the ball in the other teams box (especially with fast, skilful players) will definitely boost your chances of getting a penalty! (Not much use if you sky them though…)
 

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From a legal standpoint and hypothetically speaking, where would he stand if he retired this summer but then came out of retirement in January and signed a six month contract with a “CL” club? Could we sue him?
 

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Napoli is being mentioned.

That's his United and Juve legacy wrecked in one swoop.
I would not be against him going there. My one concern about canceling his contract (and I mean properly cancel, not this nonsense about continuing to pay him wages or give him parachute payments) is that he would waltz over to Chelsea on a free. If he goes on a free to Napoli or Atletico, I really couldn't care less - but a premier league rival, now that's a problem.
 

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That is only if Tuchel has such command over transfers or he is bigger than Chelsea. American owner calls the shots when it comes to commercial revenue.
True.

Also Tuchel is no Conte to drop and leave.
Oh yes he is. Look at how he left both Dortmund and PSG.

Even more than Ronaldo, the person Chelsea needs to grow its commercial revenue is Ed Woodward :drool:
 

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Once again forcing his way out the club. I’m not remotely surprised, just annoyed at the timing. Agree with him what fee we will accept and let him go. Or arrange an appropriate player swap for a forward or midfielder.
 

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Get rid. Get Sesko. Ronaldo's done. We don't need a melodramatic 37 year old diva. It's a rebuild. No point keeping him.
 
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