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I thought he was a Renault academy driver, damn that isn't a good look all round.

Gasly if RBR release him might want a go in the Alpine. But where does that leave RIC? Either Alpine or AT, I don't think RBR will move Perez on. He should've never left RBR.
 

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Big respect to Piastri. Alpine thought they could juggle both him and Alonso without giving either assurances. Now it looks like Alpine will be the ones left holding the bag. 2020 throwback line up of Danny Ric and Ocon??
 

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Big respect to Piastri. Alpine thought they could juggle both him and Alonso without giving either assurances. Now it looks like Alpine will be the ones left holding the bag. 2020 throwback line up of Danny Ric and Ocon??
Bring Cyril back to complete the cycle?

Meanwhile this guy knew something..

 

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What about K Mag. I think he has already done it before Alonso. Correct me if I am wrong.
He hasn’t officially started race with a Honda PU. He got benched in the 1st mclaren honda season for Alonso. He did take part in qualifying though, but had engine failure before the start of the race.

I would say that’s enough to claim he’s driven a Honda though in this regard, but if you don’t start an official race i’m not sure it counts for the records.

Certainly only he and alonso though that I can think of right now. Sainz just needs Mercedes
 

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None of those moves look that unlikely to me. Though equally Tsunoda and Kmag could easily end up in the seat roulette.

If Piastri and De Vries/Sargeant both get a seat next year at the expense of Latifi and Vettel, that'll do me.
 

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Piastri was also set to make his Formula One free practice debut at the 2022 French Grand Prix with Alpine.[ However, this has been delayed until after the summer break.

That not going to happen now is it.
What a massive mess this is.
 

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I thought he was a Renault academy driver, damn that isn't a good look all round.

Gasly if RBR release him might want a go in the Alpine. But where does that leave RIC? Either Alpine or AT, I don't think RBR will move Perez on. He should've never left RBR.
Ricardo will never go AT, that's ultimate tail between your legs, swallow your pride, territory. Imagine leaving the main team because you think you can win world championships somewhere else, only to end up back at the sister team a few years later.

I honestly think, going back to Alpine is the only place for him. AT, if they lose Gasly, will probably promote, but non of their academy drivers are lighting up f2 at the moment... Maybe they will take Albon back.

So that leaves Williams and Alpine, maybe AR.. but I think Zhou results have been ok for the money he brings in.

Tbh im surprised McLaren are looking to take Piastri, I thought they'd be taking O'Ward or Herta if Danny Ric was going to leave.
 

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Alpine reckon he's contractually obligated to race for them next season, he reckons that clause expired a couple days ago before Alpine activated it. I wonder if this one will get messy.
I mean, if it expired and was not explicitly activated, it should surely be pretty black and white.
 

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Even if there is some contractual stuff you'd imagine McLaren would be buying it out.
 

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I mean, if it expired and was not explicitly activated, it should surely be pretty black and white.
Yup you would imagine so. Will be interesting to see if this gets messy legally, or if it ends up just being a nothing burger. Someone is getting their head chewed off at Alpine right now.

Otmar finding out about Alonso leaving via the press release being like 'ok 2 can play that game'
 

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Yup you would imagine so. Will be interesting to see if this gets messy legally, or if it ends up just being a nothing burger. Someone is getting their head chewed off at Alpine right now.

Otmar finding out about Alonso leaving via the press release being like 'ok 2 can play that game'
Thats a shitty way of finding out.
Alonso should have had the balls to tell him before this.
 

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Piastri better have a drive lined up for next season otherwise hes really shot himself in the foot. Some unfounded rumours he will go to mclaren.

Doesnt Mark Webber represent both Piastri and Riccardo? Awkward...

Lastly, a Horner quote when alpine was renault but it still rings true. "Renault want a world class operation but are only prepared to pay for economy..."

Thats now riccardo, alonso and rookie piastri walking away from Alpine (renault). Hmmmm......
 

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Piastri better have a drive lined up for next season otherwise hes really shot himself in the foot. Some unfounded rumours he will go to mclaren.
He absolutely has to. There's no way he turns down his first F1 drive at a relatively top team when he already missed a year as it is since winning F2 and F3 unless he has something agreed. You'd rather be at Alpine than Williams or Haas coming in at the very bottom.
 

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Piastri better have a drive lined up for next season otherwise hes really shot himself in the foot. Some unfounded rumours he will go to mclaren.

Doesnt Mark Webber represent both Piastri and Riccardo? Awkward...

Lastly, a Horner quote when alpine was renault but it still rings true. "Renault want a world class operation but are only prepared to pay for economy..."

Thats now riccardo, alonso and rookie piastri walking away from Alpine (renault). Hmmmm......
They're all in on this together, Riccardo has an option to renew his contact by another year but that clause ends at the end of this month, Webber knows he's not staying at Mclaren which opens up a spare which he must have secured for Piastri before any of this kicked off.
 

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They're all in on this together, Riccardo has an option to renew his contact by another year but that clause ends at the end of this month, Webber knows he's not staying at Mclaren which opens up a spare which he must have secured for Piastri before any of this kicked off.
certainly makes sense for Ricciardo to head back to Alpine. He did pretty well there which is why his time at Mclaren is so contusing.
 

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Piastri making a name for himself already, if he doesn’t deliver next season then the memes will be out in force.

Vettel must be wondering what the hell he’s started now:lol:
 

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But he was also simultaneously held responsible for systematic failures of the FIA, for the ambiguous outdated rule book, for the inconsistent stewards and for the lobbying team bosses. Compared to all of that one split second decision made with good intentions is nothing. Perfectly scapegoated.

Such a groundhog day subject this, for some.
Totally disagree with:
Split second decision. This is factually incorrect.
Good intentions. The race director should not be making decisions on good intentions. He should be making decisions based upon the rules of the sport as they stood at the time.
 

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Oh, he obviously made a horrible error of judgment and failed to follow the rules, so was rightly sacked. Its just easy to use him as a convenient scapegoat though, when there were other subsequent failings which arguably could have put right his errors.
Didn't Masi have alot of influence in the outcomes of the subsequent failings?
 

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But he was also simultaneously held responsible for systematic failures of the FIA, for the ambiguous outdated rule book, for the inconsistent stewards and for the lobbying team bosses. Compared to all of that one split second decision made with good intentions is nothing. Perfectly scapegoated.

Such a groundhog day subject this, for some.
Masi was undoubtedly a big part of the problem. If you are arguing that the FIA or even Liberty should also take some responsibility for the monumental error in handing Max the championship last year, then I agree.

In that sense the issue has not been fully resolved so you will get fans (and Redcafe posters) bringing up this subject until some sense of resolution has occurred.

Calling it "Groundhog Day" makes it sound like you just want to sweep it under the carpet and forget about it.
 

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Masi was undoubtedly a big part of the problem. If you are arguing that the FIA or even Liberty should also take some responsibility for the monumental error in handing Max the championship last year, then I agree.

In that sense the issue has not been fully resolved so you will get fans (and Redcafe posters) bringing up this subject until some sense of resolution has occurred.

Calling it "Groundhog Day" makes it sound like you just want to sweep it under the carpet and forget about it.
What resolution are you expecting yet?
 

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What resolution are you expecting yet?
I'm not expecting a resolution because the FIA and Liberty media are trying to do the same as you are. Bury it, forget about it and move on until a similar debacle occurs.

What benefits are you expecting by trying to sweep last season debacle under the carpet?
 

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I'm not expecting a resolution because the FIA and Liberty media are trying to do the same as you are. Bury it, forget about it and move on until a similar debacle occurs.

What benefits are you expecting by trying to sweep last season debacle under the carpet?
I'm at a loss whether to reply seriously or to post something sarcastic and drag this thread down further.