Last report I think it was just over 10 they offered
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Whaaaaaaay!
100 percent this is true. He can’t be upset about this since it’s all on him.
There isn’t a chance we would have even approached Barca without him pushing it
In what way have we fecked around?
If Chelsea signs De Jong, I'll avoid the cafe at least until we produce a decent run of result.
Not Chelsea specific. I just mean in general. United spending months in a saga just for another club to eventually get him seemingly overnight
If we are keeping it Chelsea specific though I could throw in Fabregas and Morata… Pedro… I’m sure there’s more
if we don’t sign a midfielder heads should roll. Can’t believe the catastrophic season these chumps are setting us up for.
Heads should roll for this.
Not even hyperbole either, how the feck do you spend 3 months chasing a player who publicly stated he didn’t want to come 50 times.
Not even hyperbole either, how the feck do you spend 3 months chasing a player who publicly stated he didn’t want to come 50 times.
I’d argue we need both Neves and FDJ. They are your more creative pivots, then McT and Fred are your ball-winners and runners. That would see us having two players for every position for a 23-man squad should Ronaldo stay, Jones and Bailly leave, Garner secure a loan move, and two of Telles, AWB and Williams leave.
If we only sign one mid, Garner has to stay.
Not sure whether you’d keep Garnacho on the fringes or send him on loan.
Looks like some clarity will come to light on this one now…..just because Chelsea are now involved doesn’t mean it’s a certainty - they could end up just smoking him out.
Surely, surely we have had some very clear assurances from Frenkie and his team that he would join us.
This is going to move either way now…..for people like Murtough and Arnold this is really going to show where they are at…..and also what lure ETH possibly has?
Surely, surely we have had some very clear assurances from Frenkie and his team that he would join us.
This is going to move either way now…..for people like Murtough and Arnold this is really going to show where they are at…..and also what lure ETH possibly has?
His fiance wants to be in London. Footballing wise united under Ten hag would be better for him.
He hasn’t publicly stated anything. That’s somewhat the issue: we are having to place blind faith in ETH and the club being certain the player will join us should the deferred wage issue with Barcelona be resolved. It’s very hard to have that faith.
Well to me it seems like ETH was backed but he club, the whole midfield situation relied on getting fdj, and only now that we know it's very unlikely to happen, we moved from ETH target to club target.
I don't think club is to blame tbh. This is what manager wanted. Reading this thread it's clear fdj was never keen on joining us.
I don't think club is to blame tbh. This is what manager wanted. Reading this thread it's clear fdj was never keen on joining us.
The crux of the problem no matter how this ends up. Either we have a DoF or we are pretending to have one.
Waiting if he didn’t want to join and let someone else steal him obviously
Maybe. It’s only really in the PL that this idea of backing the manager is sacred to this extent. They should still be exercising their own judgement. They don’t just have to Thelma and Louise it off the edge of a cliff together.
Obviously, the outcome will dictate whether all of this has been time well spent or not. But if he goes somewhere else after all of this, it’ll be a really harsh, early lesson for ETH and the club. I mean, they’ve already made it clear they don’t think much of the Plan B options out there.
It's alright, we'll purge the Chelsea, Barca and Liverpool fans. Right, @golden_blunder, right?!
Laughter will numb the pain a bit.
The main head that would need to roll is Ten Hag though, you want him gone? People are just going to have to accept a lot of people have been made to look very silly, including the new manager.
I still think we'll sign him though!
Does not mean he will join Chelsea
He’s let it be known 100%
It’s been reported on the Spanish and English side multiple times that he doesn’t fancy United. Our lot in this thread had the ‘well we wouldn’t chase him for 3 months if he didn’t want to come’ excuse
When has he publicly stated anything? He’s on a massive contract at his dream club and has sat there quietly like he’s perfectly entitled to do.
Because of Ten Hag and his insistence on waiting for him to magically change his mind.
Not a good start for Eric.
If he's going to sign for Chelsea I hope it's concluded swiftly so we're not wasting time chasing our tail for the next four weeks. I just want this to end either way.
Quite clear now why this deal wasn't done, he never wanted to come here, like alot of the reports stated. I bet even the lure of London was enough for him to reject us when you hear about how hard it is for him to leave Barcelona. Will be incredibly embarrassing for Murtough, he has been incredibly naive to let it drag on for this long one way or another.
Saying something doesn’t make it true
The one positive of all of this is that @Berbaclass might finally be able to get some rest. You've earned it, brother.
Totally on board with your first paragraph, been saying all summer going strictly for ETHs former players and Dutch players makes me a bit uneasy. Would prefer some bigger picture planning from the club, but here we are now
This is all just so silly. We should have been looking to force Barcelona's hand (to pay him his wages) weeks ago by publicly undergoing talks with alternatives and manipulating the media in the same way Barca do.
Now if this falls through, we've left ourselves in a stupidly weak position to wrap up an alternative target for the rest of this window. Every team on the planet would know that we're desparate, whilst also having ~€80 to spend.
Now if this falls through, we've left ourselves in a stupidly weak position to wrap up an alternative target for the rest of this window. Every team on the planet would know that we're desparate, whilst also having ~€80 to spend.
I wish I was getting Di Maria vibes
Also a bit worrying that his former player actually doesn't seem to have much confidence in him.
Is it a big deal when the alternatives are not even close to De Jong’s quality?
Nah, mate, sorry, but I don't see it that way. I suspected De Jong might be taking us and Ten Hag for a ride a while ago and posted here as much. Everybody lies. If I, a random poster on a random internet forum, can suspect as much, then surely the people who are getting paid thousands to make these decisions should have also suspected it? If not, then it it points to naivety and incompetence and that they are out of their depth, which makes them unfit to be in their positions. The issue is this isn't something novel around here. It's been the norm for a decade.
I was over this deal a week ago mate
I stopped following it for the most part and just checked in now and then.
I’ve already come to terms with potentially Not getting him.
Yeah in that case I can definitely see them being used in the deal if it were to happen.
People can blame Ten Hag and I'm with them but this is the result of a weak structure and incompetent people in charge who are learning on the job.
Murtough is higher in the hierarchy than him and he could've stopped this a long time ago.
Murtough is higher in the hierarchy than him and he could've stopped this a long time ago.
Didn’t realise Ten Hag is head of recruitment and sporting director the club
Players. I don't think it was all that great how easily Timber was swayed by Van Gaal either
Fabian Ruiz and Tielemans could be similarly money to FDJ and would add a lot more options as to how we lineup.
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