There's no change from last season, We still don't know how to play football.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
What the most stupidest thinking is that there is only one way to win today’s game.
You know, if I was member on RAWK, and them having "RedCafe meltdown" thread, I would quote 2/3 of the posts from this thread only.
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On a positive note, we needed this SLAP early on to be honest ... Imagine if we won 4-1 today (as I predicted
), we won't buy any player. Maybe a blessing in disguise.What is the other way?
By luck. They are better than us as the team currently.
ETH decided to start his united career by trusting McFred. United lost 3 point. He is getting what he deserves. Only hope is he learns and improvise. Let see how the next game goes.
I like him. Hope united improves under him.
I like him. Hope united improves under him.
On a positive note, we needed this SLAP early on to be honest ... Imagine if we won 4-1 today (as I predicted
You predicted 4-1 ???? What is wrong with you? Deary me ...
I predicted 5-0. Bloody optimist in me.
ETH need time and support but if I see McFred starting again in any other match then I’ll know it’s something beyond the manager enforcing the decision. My little sister cried when she sees these 2 legends start together today.
Eriksen was better but also Brighton dropped a bit deeper and why wouldn't they, leading with two goals away from home. Certainly Fred isn't really suited to the role he seemed to be intended to fulfill but I thought, the whole midfield setup today was fishy - a lobsided triangle with Fred behind McTom and Eriksen. Which per se is a thing but the way it played out with Fred being left for dead again and again did only make his task more difficult.
We have to remember that we aren't playing in a vacuum. Opponents will react - even with Eriksen pulling a bit of strings, it isn't like we produced many chances in 2nd half. Early days but I think the manager is up for a rough start if he thinks he can get by without paying the league some respect. And that means physicality isn't something to look down to and intensity is one of the most valuable currencies.
If he doesn't get more players he'll have a really really hard time. God help him with these set of players
Luck? You need more than that in Premier League.
In fairness i saw erikson a couple of times making one touch passes. Mctominah on the other hand slows the game down.
You have to keep the tempo up to open up the opposition defence.
Hope i am wrong but there is no way he can break the mold, only way was for him to remove the cnuts but he choose clean slate, learn about the squad on his own and similar bullshit, he would have better luck to train bunch of hungry young guns without quality.
Inexcusable of him to start McFred really. Stevie Wonder can see that doesn’t work.
Painfully accurate, hit the nail on the head. I'm fully buying into the "don't spend money if you aren't fully in love" philosophy of business, but to hear that constantly and then read the Arnautovic rumors feels like a punch in the gut.
Its as simple as this
Just one example of many is still starting McFred in our midfield sums up how slow and naive we've been in the window and really how much progress we've made since last season
The one I blame is Murtough. ETH is just getting accustomed to the squad and he may think he can coach these players into something but Murtough should know there's no way we should start a new season with McFred in midfield and relying on Rashford
Ragnicks handover was meant to help the process of getting rid of players
The whole thing was a shambles and pointless
Clueless board
We need more time for ETH and the team. Don’t expect overnight miracle, please.
Next game is key. If he plays McFred again then I'd suggest that the club need to inspect the manager's office for gas leaks.
I do winder why fans believe that a manager would want to keep playing these players.
Maybe the manager does want some more signings but he isn't getting them. So it would be counter productive to slate the only players he has got to the press and to fans like us.
The problem is the same as it has been for many years. The owners and the mistakes under Woodward.
Except finding someone to blame, what else are you capable to do? It’s ok. Just keep blaming anyone pop up in your mind.
Had a bad feeling when he chose to completely disregard Ralf's "dossier". Hopefully he realizes the players aren't up to it sooner rather than later.
Still believe we have to go back 3 with WBs to maximize this squad. Lack of cover in front of the defence is going to keep getting us, especially if FBs are to do much more going forward. Hope EtH can try that
Who the feck is blaming anyone randomly . Its clear as day our problem is lack of quality players.
It’s clear as day we need more time to develop.
Looks like Erik ten Hag will not be good enough. We should go for Erik twelve Hag.
Time won't make these useless players any better.
No one will ever be good enough while we’re under the Glazers ownership. The only manager to have any real consistent success was Sir Alex and that’s only because he was literally the GOAT.
There is of course some truth to what you say, however we had Donny and Garner sat on the bench. We saw Iqbal and Savage both have solid pre seasons.
I'm not saying for a second they are definitely the answer to our prayers in midfield, but you have got to start somewhere.
There was and is absolutely nothing stopping ETH from playing any of those 4 players mentioned to start a new CM pairing off. I would expect it to be an issue still at the start but at least there is evidence the manager is trying to change things and start something new.
Under pressure from day 1 now. A bad result next Saturday will see us play Liverpool the week after this could get real ugly.
Not suggesting it’s his fault btw I’m fully behind him. The recruitment has been a complete joke.
Not suggesting it’s his fault btw I’m fully behind him. The recruitment has been a complete joke.
And Sancho
Tbh I'm not that bothered. It's going to take couple of years to fix this mess so one result is neither hear nor there.
Probably but whisper it.
Both are correct.
I was just looking at the fixtures, if we don’t win at Brentford we have no chance v Liverpool then it’s Southampton away, Leicester away, Arsenals home then Palace away.
There’s a realistic chance it could be 8 games in v Leeds before we have a chance to win our first league game
Go beyond the players and the shape today may cause issues. 2 CB's playing a high line, full backs pushed on, 1 CM supporting deep, the other very high, going to be very open to the counter when the initial press is broken.
Can Maguire and Lisandro work as a pair in that system? Might have to hope Varane can recover close to his best level to give us some speed in defensive recovery.
Top 6 was always the likely outcome this year, maybe a sneak at 4th if Ten Hag was a miracle worker.
Can Maguire and Lisandro work as a pair in that system? Might have to hope Varane can recover close to his best level to give us some speed in defensive recovery.
Top 6 was always the likely outcome this year, maybe a sneak at 4th if Ten Hag was a miracle worker.
The state of the players mentality needs so much