Have we ever agreed a deal with a club in less than 24 hours? It's hardly done because of the result yesterday. Anyway, it's United, so you never know
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Not difficult to do when Juventus were considering cancelling his contract due to his high wages. I bet they all celebrated with bubbly last night.
Yes, but we didn't.
More seriously, I don't think the adverse reaction to this comes out of hysteria in response to having lost to Brighton in the opener and negative press coverage. It comes out of most fans and commentators being in a place where their confidence in how the club has handled last season and this summer is already so strained that it doesn't take much. And this pretty much couldn't have been much worse, in terms of confirming what everyone had already started to strongly suspect (but couldn't yet know, with more than 3 weeks remaining of the transfer window).
My guess is they'll backtrack over Arnautovic due to the outrage.
If we are seriously desparate about depth then why not seek to bring back Herera for the Mid, surely even a 32 year old Ander is an upgrade on what we have?
I feel slightly irritated every time someone suggests bringing Herrera back
It's still strange that people don't understand this.
Pep was hired with the club built in his image, and his first year was still a failure, then City went out on a massive splurge and identified the players Pep needed to succeed.
Point is they didn't give him workhorses and tell him to turn them into ballerinas, people expecting Ten Hag to do something no other coach would be able to do is quite the leap.
Ragnick told everyone how it was, yet no one put an ounce of trust because they expected someone known for building clubs as a director of football to be a great manager - the evolution not revolution line told me that this would happen, we're trying to build a house on quicksand expecting it to last.
twitter/social media outrage? Do they even check in on that when getting transfers over the line? And if so, and they change targets becaus if it…I’m not sure that’s worse or betterYes, but we didn't.
More seriously, I don't think the adverse reaction to this comes out of hysteria in response to having lost to Brighton in the opener and negative press coverage. It comes out of most fans and commentators being in a place where their confidence in how the club has handled last season and this summer is already so strained that it doesn't take much. And this pretty much couldn't have been much worse, in terms of confirming what everyone had already started to strongly suspect (but couldn't yet know, with more than 3 weeks remaining of the transfer window).
My guess is they'll backtrack over Arnautovic due to the outrage.
Psg fans pretty happy when he left too
Can they be disastrous? They both seem like short term fixes to plug holes in the squad because we can’t make the long term signings we want to.
So instead we are making low cost squad filler signings so that we can pursue those long term targets next summer (when hopefully we’ve made progress).
Arnautovic in particular seems like a low cost option to offer backup to Ronaldo, Martial, Sancho and Rashford while allowing us to keep the funds for Antony & Sesko down the line. I’d rather that than buying some random ones their player for £30-40m and then not going back for the long term targets.
Liverpool waited on VVD remember.
How does this not surprise us?
I'm not either. It's both, I guess.
Mainly I was assuming that given the strength and negativity of the response, that is going to replicate in all kinds of channels and get back to them as a perception problem.
Why though? It’s just a depth signing.
Tielemans is talked about as £30-40m with a year left. Rabiot for £16m seems pretty reasonable.
Tielemans is normally quoted around £25. But he’s a better, and younger player than Rabiot, who has been utter dross for Juventus.
Nah.
Firstly, I hugely doubt either of them are signing for one year. Rabiot certainly isn't going to.
Secondly, they will both be expensive players in terms of salary. Rabiot makes 9m in Juventus, and would presumably expect a raise, as everyone does and gets when they arrive at United from a league abroad. So whatever this is, it's not low cost immediate squad filler. You could argue that we can always sell them again, but then again you could consider the likelihood of that for two seconds and then abstain from making that argument.
Thirdly, how often do you see top clubs make cheap immediate squad filler signings when they can't get their "long term targets"? Never mind the fairly high cost squad filler signings these would be?
Fourthly, considering the overall picture this window (what's been said, what's been done, what hasn't been done), it's getting increasingly difficult to believe United really have any long term targets. If they do, it can't be a very long list, if they think it's a better option to bring in these two.
Fifthly, this is where the penny unmistakably drops concerning what the club learnt from last season's disaster. Or at least we know that whatever they took from that, they think a part of the answer is signing Marko Arnautovic.
To be fair Juve have been dross for the period he's been there.
We already have depth and numbers; Rashford, Elanga, Diallo, Ronaldo, Sancho, Martial, Garnacho. We need actual quality.
Any fee for him doesn't strike me as reasonable. Psg fans were delighted to see the back of him and juve fans will throw a big party. Add to that his salary will be massive it's going to be a shit deal.
No other clubs seem to be interested in him and they sure as shit wont be when he leaves us
TBF I do think we need depth (and of course also quality) - just 4 of those players are good enough to be playing 25 or 30 games, which is far too few for 3 positions. But it's hard to see that it's at the striker position we primarily need that depth. Unless Ronaldo leaves, in which case we'd need something a bit better than Arnautovic for a replacement...
Seems like transfer funds really have dried up. We need an attacker and a midfielder... What are the cheapest options out there? Right! Get them in then.
Is Arnautovic good enough to play 25-30 games for us? Jesus Christ he was average as feck for Stoke and West Ham and that was during what should have been his prime years (26-30). We're going for Arnautovic, a player banned for racism, at the ripe old age of 33. It's an absolute pisstake.
Guys, I'm starting to think we should just bite the bullet and join the Red Bull group.
Maybe we get Nkunku next season. They’ll have Werner and Sesko.
so he joins leipzig for around 20 million pound, but bigger clubs were reported offering 30 million plus? did they get a massive sell on clause or something.
Getting serious Michael Owen esque vibes from these Arnautovic stories. Past it, old and cheap.
If its a depth signing and the fact he is totally average doesn't matter, could we not just sign someone average who isn't a racist?
He'll win a league with us and score a last minute goal in the derby?
Amen to that.
Maybe he's just smart, and taking the path that has worked for many other young players by going to a Bundesliga club where he will get regular game time. Probably the right decision tbh. Still gutted to miss out on him.
some transfers make no financial sense, rabiot being one, especially when Juve by all accounts wouldve been happy to tear up his deal and let him go on a free. Then you consider the middle men / women involved and the amounts of money changing hands as commissions etc. the whole thing (like many other transfers) stinks.
Nkunku's not a striker. He can work very well with Werner and/or Sesko.
Ooh yeah a whole five hours. Excuses piling up already.
What? Did we just lose a transfer battle with Leipzig?
Or is this just a Red Bull internal deal wherein we didn't' stand a chance?
5 hrs is half the working day!
Yeah, admittedly I’d forgot all about that stuff.
We're not getting any ambitious player who will be in demand any time soon, he'll have most top clubs in his ear about a move starting a few months ago, we'll probably open a dialogue with him/his agents in June next year, scratching our heads and wondering how another club got the deal done so quickly.
Shambolic man. One week into the season and the only word i can think of is shambolic. For ferk’s sake.
The whole entire world is now working remotely on Microsoft Teams etc but United can't close deals because of a time difference. Farce.
With Sesko being confirmed off and FdJ looking less likely by the day, I've honestly spent most of my day wondering what the hell we'll do through the remainder of this window.
Between those two deals, we were seemingly ready to spend ~£100m. While we don't know the intended structure of those deals, we can say for certain that we likely have the funds ready for two quality first team players to be brought in to the squad at minimum, even beyond a potential Rabiot deal.
With that in mind, the window closing EtH having to field a team that looks anything like what we saw yesterday would be truly stink of neglegence (if the smell isn't bad enough already).
Between those two deals, we were seemingly ready to spend ~£100m. While we don't know the intended structure of those deals, we can say for certain that we likely have the funds ready for two quality first team players to be brought in to the squad at minimum, even beyond a potential Rabiot deal.
With that in mind, the window closing EtH having to field a team that looks anything like what we saw yesterday would be truly stink of neglegence (if the smell isn't bad enough already).
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