Very interesting and this would explain why the club has remained confident
It has an agreement with Barca and the players agent.
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It has an agreement with Barca and the players agent.
Are you being serious? There have been several reports, the vast majority saying that he didn't want to join us/had no intention, wanted CL football, didn't want Manchester etc. All sounded pretty conclusive to me, you'd have to be suffering from a serious case of confirmation bias to dismiss all of that.
Yes, we are talking about the same Man City who have never been stupid enough to buy a CDM this summer in Kalvin Phillips to then go and spend another 80m on a player who plays best in the exact same positon as one of their key signings this summer.
I really feel like this one will be hard to take when Chelsea's midfield with FdJ are running rings around McFred this season. Obviously once they came in we didn't really have a chance but it's incredibly frustrating as this will keep happening and we'll have to either figure out how to get in with young age promising players early (which would require scouts and foresight so that's not happening) or accept that we will be looking at rejects from higher tier sides and will likely never catch them as a result.
All good but how exactly will they play though? Kante and Jorginho would leave next year but still got another year. Kova and FDJ are similar players and can't start together. Need a Kante always to start with one of them.Imagine having a midfield of Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic and even Gallagher and still adding FdJ
Meanwhile we have McFred and are after Rabiot. What a joke.
3 months wasted for Chelsea to come in and get it donelaughing stock of the PL.
I think its clear we have an agreement with his agent, but does that mean the player also agreed?
In fairness to RR, he was the one looking for reinforcements last winter and wanted rid of Ronaldo so they could employ the pressing game he wanted. Murtough and Woodward were refusing to take meetings with him never mind listening to the experienced club builder they hired as a consultant
I'm being 100% serious. I'm asking you for just one link and you are avoiding it. I'm not sure who is on the wind up. These "several reports" which are all news outlets right? I'm afraid that is not concrete information which confirms FDJ would never join utd. It goes back to my original point, you are not an ITK just like everyone else. You have zero information what is truly going on with this saga.
We just have to be smarter. Sign players who can take us into the top four. Then when that’s done bin them off and sign a higher calibre. It really isn’t that complicated. Look at how City did it.
Yeah as I said, you'd have still heard links by now, that's how fast they move.
If his agent is of any use, yes
Bellingham gets linked with Liverpool all the time but won’t he cost in excess of £100m? Liverpool never have spent that sort of cash and it’s hard to imagine them doing so, no?
Chelsea can have FDJ. Give us Gallagher then.
Link us up with all the direct quotes from Frenkie.
What CDM have we bought exactly?
So this guy is stating Utd have a "deal with the agent of the player" and we already know Utd have a deal agreed with the club. Just another report to throw on the pile of reports we've got throughout this whole saga.
It does not. It doesn't mean the player didn't agree, either. All it means is that, according to this report, the agent has some sort of agreement with United. One can presume that the agent would not have any agreement with the club on FDJ's behalf without FDJ being in agreement, but also one can presume that despite all of this, based on numerous reports, FDJ would still prefer to remain at Barcelona, and it seems like he has been putting his foot vehemently down on this. Unless something forces FDJ to leave, it is unlikely the agent's agreement will have any impact. If FDJ were to leave, it would fair game between United and any other clubs. The agreement is not a contract, but probably a suggestion that they have an understanding regarding wages etc. on the off chance that FDJ transfers. Now, this agreement doesn't mean he doesn't have other agreements with other clubs, too.
It's kind of ridiculous though, at the start of last season your squad looked good enough to challenge for the title, let alone top 4. It feels like your issues are much more institutional rather than based on some failure to bring in good enough talent.
City bought Phillips
Said it yesterday, there are too many conflicting reports by respected journalists. This one isn't over until Barcelona register their players.
What are you on about mate? We're talking about Man city here. keep up.
I used to wonder why people never read the actual conversation properly. But it's becoming clear people don't even read a full sentence anymore. This saga is sending people to the brink.
Honestly I genuinely believe that none of the journalists have a clue. 99% of the information being provided will be coming from Barcelona and FDJ, 1% us. FDJ will be informing some people that he wants to stay and will fight it out, and Barcelona will be feeding all kinds of things to make FDJ look bad (often backfiring completely). FDJ has no reason to leak any desire or preference between Chelsea and United at this point. This will also likely be information being leaked by Barcelona, or just pure idle speculation (not to say it's unreasonable speculation).
To be fair I think they've shown with Allison, VVD, Nunez and Keita that they're willing to spend big for the right player.
Of course we have an agreement (in principle) with Frenkie's agent in terms of wages and duration of the contract if he leaves Barcelona. Even we wouldn't be so stupid to go agree a deal with the club without that. You always first talk to a player or his agent.
Problem is that he's deffered wages aren't sorted yet and we might have a situation of Chelsea jumping in as well, but we definitely have or we had some kind of deal in place with the player. Otherwise, it is beyond crazy to wait this transfer for so long and it doesn't make any sense.
Problem is that he's deffered wages aren't sorted yet and we might have a situation of Chelsea jumping in as well, but we definitely have or we had some kind of deal in place with the player. Otherwise, it is beyond crazy to wait this transfer for so long and it doesn't make any sense.
Check my post regarding Nunes I have a whole thread on him. They are different players but he is a player United need in my opinion none the less.
The club is currently restructuring. New manager, new coaches, new head of football, no chief scout, no head of global recruitment..
it also didn’t get CL football
This was always going to be a tough window and tough season but it’s about the bigger picture.
Tuchel is an emerging talent in the bald game. Write him off at your own peril.
I really really hope that Chelsea are being taken for a ride here and the info coming from them is from Barca, to the owner, to the journos. It's not THAT far fetched.
I agree there is a lot of noise out there. But all I'm looking for is a pattern and I'm not just agreeing with the negative news. Take Kounde transfer for example, it was a bit similar to this FdJ saga. Chelsea agreed with Sevilla but the saga dragged on further. It was clear that Kounde preferred Barcelona to Chelsea and was dragging his feet and hence the delay. Kounde was actually waiting for Barcelona to get their affairs in order.
The same happens for every transfer. We should have realized FdJ had very little interest in joining us and should have moved on. From what I've seen personally it doesn't take long for a player to agree contract if he is interested.
The media outlets have had an absolute ball with their click baits this summer. It must be a record coup for them. The one's who are regarded as reliable have been very quiet and rarely reported on this saga. Yet, we've had every tom, dick and frenkie reporting a new update every 2 hours.
I've never seen so much media coverage over a player transfer that doesn't want to leave. It's like watching climate change protestors handcuffing themselves to a bridge.
I was taking the piss with the Chelsea comment hence the one tear comment it mustn’t have come across well
Cant see why the player would let his agent agree something without his consent?
That's what I mentioned in the first post. If he is after his money, he could have negotiated with us for that money like a signing on bonus or something. But we saw no such reports.
Wow. Deal is agreed with agent. Totally opposite of what we have heard so far. Hope it is not slip of tongue.
Believe.
And feck you Barca.
I don’t see any change yet really.
If there’s an announcement that Chelsea have bid and Barca have accepted then I’d suggest that’s that but currently we are still at a stalemate.
Lukaku, Varane, Shaw and Sancho?
What could we possibly agree with the agent which doesn't involve the player agreeing? We have an agreement for the agent to mow the grass at old trafford?
I wouldn't even say that means it's game over.
We don't know whats going through Frenkies mind. He might see United as an exciting project thats a work in progress. He might say i wouldn't touch that in a million years. We just don't know.
There were reports that Boehly spoke directly to FdJ but the answer was that he prefers to stay at Barca and if he decided to move he'd be open to going to Chelsea.
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