To be fair he said he's not going to be a good fit with the right backs we have.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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Dunno, why is nobody else in for Casemiro? It's not a great argument for determining whether a player should be signed
They're not on £100k
Unless it's net.Yes, we tried that but it didnt work now did it?
Paying a premium because there isn't long left of the transfer window, Ajax know we desperate, there is a Man United tax, and Antony has huge potential that could be reached.
You get flops in every league. It happens, especially as clubs are always looking to get the next big thing. You could also argue that near enough every transfer is expensive and overpriced these days, and you have to pay big money to get the top talents. We had to go big with Sancho. The only alternative is getting these players earlier or developing them through the youth system.
It's going to be a high price whatever the end total is. But, if he comes in and is a mainstay in our team for the best part of the decade, then it'll be worth it. We could always go for cheaper players and they could still end up being flops. If the club deems him to be the one to take us forward, or part of the solution, then it's worth exploring.
How many other sides can A) meet Ajax's demands and B) are a good fit? The only one I can really think of is Chelsea.
£56k a week for Diaz. Which if true, is amazing value...They're not on £100k
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/liverpool-fc/payroll/
That had a lot of clauses. It was similar to the Amad deal. I highly doubt we've paid the full 50m.
Not sure that's true though, I think the team has to do well and win things for that to be the case. Shaw has been here for nearly 10 years and Fred 5 years and they've both been mainstays. They've not been outright flops but can't say we're delighted with them.
For the money we're talking he'll have to be a key player performing well for it to be worth it.
Madrid, City, Bayern, PSG, Arsenal, Chelsea could all realistically afford him
I feel like we are paying the ETH Tax for both Martinez and Anthony.
Ajax know how much he wants them so can easily slap on an extra 40%
Ajax know how much he wants them so can easily slap on an extra 40%
It's not true. Spotrac is bullshit. Look at the clubs' financial reports instead. There's not much difference between us, Liverpool, City (who probably cook their books anyway), and Chelsea in wage expenditures. Except in the last year (probably), because we added Sancho, Varane, and Ronaldo last summer without selling anyone. But generally speaking all the media reports in recent years about us paying way higher wages than everyone else are clearly bullshit.
Im sure others would like him, but not at the price Ajax can command when he has a contract that runs another 3 years.
We are paying more because we are ...
United
Terrible in the transfer market.
Have ETH an Ajax know how much he wants some of his ex players.
Are desperate.
Worst signing ever. This madness has to stop. He's not worth more than €40-45M.
I'm absolutely not worried about the club's finances with this deal. If we were signing Phil Foden, Vinicius, Mbappe, Haaland, Gnabry, etc for the fee I'd be all for it. They're worth it. He isn't. All this does is guarantee he'll be a flop and will be getting loads of abuse soon.
Worst signing ever, when he's not even signed, let alone kicked a football for us yet. SadCafe at its finest.
Actually, I agree. You raise a great point. I should've said if he's a mainstay in a successful team. Part of that will be on him, and part of that will be on the club and ensuring that they develop him through coaching and good management. That's the part I'm more dubious about, to be honest.
I get being against baseless negativity, but 100m on him is just insane
I'm against the fee, it's stupid. Calling him worst signing ever is moronic though.
It’s more the fact they really didn’t want to lose their last 2 key players I reckon. Having said that, our desperation does not contribute to negotiations.
You do know the clubs' official financial statements are readily available right? And that those official numbers don't add up to the bullshit figures you're linking to?
He is definitely worth more than £33M - £38M, name any up and coming young attacker of his calibre that would go for less than £40M?
Especially when Richarlison sold for £60M, Sancho sold for £73M, Nunez for £85M.
In what world is Antony therefore only worth £40M?
Definitely in denial.
In a world where people come up with arbitrary numbers to value players they've probably no knowledge of
destabilize every player you want, i like
Maybe, but let's face it. ETH knows football better than us. If he is willing to go 100M for a player he must see something absurdly special in him.
The danger with comparing players is that the first metric people will look at is goals scored. Richarlison, for example, has 53 goals in 152 total appearances, so the £60million for him doesn't look too bad when you just look at that. But, it's much more complicated than that.
Dislike Murtough all you want but last season's transfer decisions weren't down to him.
Richarlison plays in the PL so obviously he'll cost double the going rate.
Sancho posted insane numbers for BVB.
Liverpool was ridiculed and rightly so for paying that fee for Nunez. He isn't the norm but an outlier.
Indeed. Giggs was known for citing poems of Arthur Rimbaud while waltzing past defenders.
He should already not be the one determining targets after this window closes. Even more so in your scenario.
Agreed. Ridiculous figures!
Was better than his poetry that was made public this week.
Don't think he's going to be a flop like Pepe at Arsenal. If he's key to EtH's initial vision, then so be it. The squad needs massive turnover and he's part of it. Has more about him than everyone on the right side now that Greenwood is totally off the books from United.
Too much short sideness here. Marcus could leave with a year or just suffer from being crap if he stays. We gotta pay to play and this is what happens when you target a very good talent when you can't wait to grow them yourselves like a Garnacho.
Too much short sideness here. Marcus could leave with a year or just suffer from being crap if he stays. We gotta pay to play and this is what happens when you target a very good talent when you can't wait to grow them yourselves like a Garnacho.
To be honest nobody will be a good fit with right backs we have.
ETH is going to win or lose based on this transfer window, let’s assume he spends £200m on the following ; T Mallacia(12m), Cassemeiro(52M), L Martinez(46m), Antony (70m), A Bergovic(F), C Ericsen (F), C Gatpo(30m) Total £210M we need to ignore add ons they will never be achieved.
Transfers out: A Pereira (12m), J Garner(18M), C Ronaldo (12M), AWB(13M)
P Jones (5M), Net Sales £60M
Net Spend £150M
First 11 - D De Gea, V Lindelof, R Varane, L Martinez, L Shaw, Cassemeiro, Ericsen, Sancho(10), Antony, Martial, Gatpo
2nd 11 - A Bergovic, Dalot, Bailey, Maguire, T Malacia, Fred, IQbal, Bruno, Garnaucho, Rashford, Ellanga
it’s still lot enough to get top 6, we need to sell S Mctominay (25/30M) and get a proper number 9 like I Toney who knows the PL he’s probably available At £35/45m although a mobile 4 that move and pass like Antony, Sancho, Martial and Gatpo could be devastating if they hit form, I also think Dalot is so bad we should try Lindelof or Bailey at right back.
Wow
FFS folks, enough complaining about the money. Times have changed. INFLATION. Five years ago a box of Bird's Eye Potato Waffles cost £1 and now they're £1.80. Even Cina's mum has put her prices up by 100%. Her "Triple Tunnel Special" is now 50p.
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