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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Interesting he mentioned the first 20 mins against Arsenal and probably referring to Saka. Shows a bit of awareness and that he has lots to learn.
How did he play?
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No World Cup for Bruno Martins Indi. That's why I wanted to see Tyrell Malacia there.
Thanks.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/26/man-...lled-tyrell-malacia-in-new-position-17448033/
Interestingly as I've said in Dalot's thread, I think him and Malacia are more akin to Walker and Zinchenko at City than the likes of Robertsons, Cancelos, Trents etc that people are hoping/expecting when they say they expect more from our full backs.
I think Malacia has a lot more to show on the ball and going forward but it does seem even ETH is (understandably) liking the stability of passing and defensive aggression he brings rather than the overlapping runs and attacking expansiveness.
He was fine, didn't have a lot to do. But nervous in the build up as he is clearly not at all used to play in the centre of the pitch. It was very weird seeing him marking someone twice his size though and in the end his man nearly scored an insane overhead kick.
That's marvelous, but we also have Matthijs de Ligt and Stefan de Vrij as back up defenders. Pretty sure that'll do. It's just typical "look at my genius" Van Gaal nonsense and it almost cost us the game in the last second.
You see something like this and think of how logical Van Gaal is, including when he picked Krul who was trained specifically for penalties.
And then you remember he also picked Phil Jones to take corners and realize he's not logical, he's just mental.
You are not alone, he is absolutely mental but in a very funny way. His managing of the Netherlands has been sensational, he knows what he is doing.No matter what anyone says I still like Van Gaal.
Let’s play him and Martinez in CB at the same time, just for fun.
I still think that Krul move was more just being lucky rather than anything special. To the point, that in the next match, they went to penalties again and Krus wasn’t put in for penalties.
I like Van Gaal though. I think that he is mental, that a lot of his genius moves have nothing to do with him being genius but are total random moves, with the majority backfiring. But when some go right (cause of luck), they look incredible and people are more willing to talk about them, then for example for that game when he played Di Maria as No. 9 and Rooney as No. 8. It didn’t go well obviously, but imagine if Di Maria scored a couple of goals, people would have been all in praise about Van Gaal doing that.
Other incredible moves he did: playing Lingard as right back, putting Nick Powell who had not play at all that season, in a must win match, Jones in corners, selling pretty much every winger we had and then complaining and so on. He is a very good coach though, but not a very good manager.
Classic LvG. I remember that one time that Ander Herrera scored a goal from midfield, it was either a long shot or he'd made like a great late run into the box and it was revealed afterwards that van Gaal berated him for coming out of position and scoring the goal.
If I am not mistaken it was cause he didn’t first trap the ball and then shoot, but shot directly. Or a combination of both what you and I said.Classic LvG. I remember that one time that Ander Herrera scored a goal from midfield, it was either a long shot or he'd made like a great late run into the box and it was revealed afterwards that van Gaal berated him for coming out of position and scoring the goal.
Anyway, he must have been annoying to work with, and close to impossible to please him.
Yeah that sums him up. No wonder he does better at International level, because he just has to work with who he's given.
Not even sure he did that great at the international level. Sure he got third place (4 years after Holland almost won it and was beaten in the final), but expect the group stage, they weren't that good. They were losing against Mexico until stoppage time when they scored twice to win 2-1, they needed penalties to win against Costa Rica, and then were second best before losing in penalties against Argentina. And in 2002, they weren't able to qualify for the World Cup at all.
That was a bad team to be fair in 2014. It was carried by Robben's genius, but not many manager's would have the sense to put him in the position to cause most harm and also hide their own flaws. So I'll credit him for that - with the caveat of in game luck and favourable draws.
You can say that again. He has yet to complete a single pass or cross into the box, has 0.00 xA, has about half the number of passes/90 and touches/90 you get from TAA or Reece James or Kyle Walker, does very little progressive passing (1.5 passes/90), practically non-existent Shot creating actions, actually non-existing goal creating actions, very few progressive carries, doesn't dribble a lot (and not especially successfully). He does do a lot of defensive stuff well, except he gets dribbled past a lot.
Have to admit I expected it to be a much more balanced picture, but statistically at least he comes across as defensively impactful, but with very, very little presence on the ball.
Those stats do come across as quite bad but I still think he has been playing well to very well. He's playing an inverted position, tucking in centrally to help control the midfield and progress the ball; as such he would be going out of position to overlap and get involved in the attacking third. It doesn't help that we're not dominating possession and creating waves and waves of attack either so it's not like there is lots of opportunity for him to drift on the wing and expect lots of switches etc. He's playing quite conservatively and not busting a lung on the overlaps, which is fine for me at the moment. On a technical and mental level, I'm quite pleased with what he's shown.
What might be useful to see is other measures like touches and carries coming from a press, a heat map or perhaps defensive contributions? His link up and passing with Martinez has been a nice little (
) partnership.The dribbled past stat is interesting because I think that is definitely true and aligns with the eye test. He plays on the edge and apart from against Saka, where he 'adapted' better, his style of aggressive defending and lots of recovery runs/tackles has worked out decently so far. I 'expect' for him to get rinsed and overcommit one day but at the same time I think he's learning at a high rate on the fly.
Maybe we'll see Malacia deeper in the derby, closer to a third cb to nullify De Bruyne again.
I am excited for his development. We actually have a core of our players who are very young, Malacia 23, Dalot 23, Martinez 24, Antony 22, Sancho 22 Rashford 24. If they can all develop to be top top class, we are in good hands for the next five years atleast.
I think the stats reflect what we've been seeing. Very tidy but unadventurous on the ball and susceptible to being beaten but very industrious in defense.Those stats do come across as quite bad but I still think he has been playing well to very well. He's playing an inverted position, tucking in centrally to help control the midfield and progress the ball; as such he would be going out of position to overlap and get involved in the attacking third. It doesn't help that we're not dominating possession and creating waves and waves of attack either so it's not like there is lots of opportunity for him to drift on the wing and expect lots of switches etc. He's playing quite conservatively and not busting a lung on the overlaps, which is fine for me at the moment. On a technical and mental level, I'm quite pleased with what he's shown.
What might be useful to see is other measures like touches and carries coming from a press, a heat map or perhaps defensive contributions? His link up and passing with Martinez has been a nice little (
The dribbled past stat is interesting because I think that is definitely true and aligns with the eye test. He plays on the edge and apart from against Saka, where he 'adapted' better, his style of aggressive defending and lots of recovery runs/tackles has worked out decently so far. I 'expect' for him to get rinsed and overcommit one day but at the same time I think he's learning at a high rate on the fly.
Maybe we'll see Malacia deeper in the derby, closer to a third cb to nullify De Bruyne again.
Just shows you that football fans purely run on emotion. Teams winning - everything must be great. Teams losing - everyone needs to be axed, and we need to rebuild from scratch.
Sounnes will commit suicide on live television.
Imagine we still had Pogba. I think his head would literally explode in fury.
Left Memphis, right Tyrell...
Tyrell has a Lion King tattoo? Nais.
Love the kiddo.
Love the kiddo.
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Fair play to Ten Hag's recruitment, he's signed the exact kind of playe profiles and attitudes we've needed for a while.
All his signings so far are on the way to being fan favorites
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Hopefully Shaw stays in the team. Refreshing to see a LB cross the halfway line for a start, and I think I’ve said every week but his early plaudits do not match what I’ve been seeing on the pitch so far.
Interesting how this thread hasn't been bumped. This guy is utterly wank. Aside from his pathetic showing defensively today he's averaging a cross every 4 games. Not a goal or a key pass but an actual cross, a single cross every 4 games! I'd say he was like an AWB but with better balance but he's neither better at attacking or defending than AWB.
Good attitude, poor output
very poor today. Looked like a rabbit in the headlights.
I think he was directly involved for just one goal today, in which we conceeded 6, stop talking rubbish.
We need to pump the brakes with the praise indeed. He was shocking and so scared today
Zero key passes in the PL so far which is really poor.
He was poor today .This is a kid who just played the best team on the planet a couple months after taking a huge step up. It's to be expected honestly. I think ETH should have started Shaw in hindsight even if Shaw did cost us a goal as well.
He is ahead of his development squedule. I think he duels with Shaw all season before eventually winning out for good in the last couple months.
He is ahead of his development squedule. I think he duels with Shaw all season before eventually winning out for good in the last couple months.
Feck me the tone in this thread has shifted quickly. Everyone was laughing at me for trying to temper expectations around him and doubt whether he was ready for the PL.
I didnt catch the first half today, but I guess he was cack then?
I didnt catch the first half today, but I guess he was cack then?
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Shaw has buckets more talent than him, and hopefully a rival wakes Shaw up because we’d be a far better team at least for now with a functioning Luke Shaw.
Absolutely terrible today.
Poor game overall.
Already thought it before this game but surely it's time to give Shaw a run in the team.
Bad game. He's young. Happens to everyone but collectively nobody was on it today. Nothing more to read into than that.
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