England Starting 11 for 2022 WC

Real Madras · Sep 28, 2022

Pickford

Trent Alexander Arnold
Kyle Walker
John Stones
Reece James

Bellingham
Rice
Foden

Marcus Rashford
Harry Kane
Raheem Sterling

saivet · Sep 28, 2022

Rojofiam said:
Both Ramsdale and Henderson are better than him, they should be integrated into the team and it'll pay off.

I think Ramsdale should have got more minutes but as it stands he's not been integrated much into the side and I think it would be unfair to throw either of them into the deep end starting at a World Cup having hardly played for England. I hope they both get a fair chance but would have to wait until after the World Cup imo.

red woppit · Sep 28, 2022

I feel the biggest change needs to be to a back four instead of a five, although a back five may pay of against teams like Brazil and Argentina.

Pickford will probably get the nod, but I would give Ramsdale at least one game in the group matches.

TAA, albeit he's had a poor start to the season, would get my vote against weaker opposition, Walker against better teams.
Shaw on the left.
Stones, and Tomori for the CB positions.

Rice as the DM.
Bellingham as a deep lying playmaker.
Saka definitely on the right, Rashford on the left.
Kane will probably play, and again, against weaker opposition I would play Toney or Abraham, against stronger opposition, Grealish.

AngeloHenriquez · Sep 28, 2022

Real Madras said:
Pickford

Trent Alexander Arnold
Kyle Walker
John Stones
Reece James

Bellingham
Rice
Foden

Marcus Rashford
Harry Kane
Raheem Sterling

This except would rather Rashford and Saka as I feel Sterling is out of form and Tomori > Walker as a CB in a 2 but we don't have the manager/ tactics to make this work so we will sit with 5 at the back with wingbacks playing defensive and two holding midfielders and concede possession.

Cutch · Sep 28, 2022

Rojofiam said:
Same reason as why De Gea needs replacing. Pickford is bad with his feet. However he can probably get away with it like Donnarumma for Italy, since international football is miles behind club football from a tactical viewpoint. Still, if I was Southgate I'd be looking to have a techincal goalkeeper at the back so that England can control games much better.

I thought this was meant to be his one redeeming quality

Robindinho · Sep 28, 2022

Pickford

James Tomori Stones Shaw

Rice Bellingham

Saka Foden Grealish

Kane

TrustInJanuzaj · Sep 28, 2022

SilentWitness said:
I agree with the poster that Ramsdale is stronger in that department but it doesn't outweigh his poor shot stopping compared to Pickford who is superior in that department by some distance.

Really? Ramsdale probably edges him on short passing, but Pickfords long passing distribution is class I think.

SilentWitness · Sep 28, 2022

TrustInJanuzaj said:
Really? Ramsdale probably edges him on short passing, but Pickfords long passing distribution is class I think.

Yes, but he's also helped that he plays in an ultra progressive side and Pickford hasn't. I do think if DCL comes back and to his best Pickfords distribution will pick up hugely too.

90 + 5min · Sep 28, 2022

If England wants to achive something they need to get stronger and more mobile and tactically better central midfielders and quality back four. Not five. If I was Southgate I would go with

Ramsdale, James - Walker - Stones - Trippier, Trent - Henderson - Mount, Sterling - Kane - Saka

Yes, thats right. Trent as one of the central midfielders who can easly drift out and also have big engine. I would have put him as right back but problem is his defensive side and one vs one.

DannyCAFC · Sep 28, 2022

-----------------------------------Pickford---------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------Walker---------Dier----------Stones----------------
James---------------------------------------------------------------Shaw
-------------------------Rice-------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------Bellingham------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saka-------------------------------------------------------------Sterling
------------------------------------Kane-------------------------------------

90 + 5min · Sep 28, 2022

DannyCAFC said:
-----------------------------------Pickford---------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------Walker---------Dier----------Stones----------------
James---------------------------------------------------------------Shaw
--------------------------------------Rice-------------------------------------
------------------Mount-----------------------Bellingham------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Saka-------------------------------------------------------------Sterling
------------------------------------Kane-------------------------------------

New rules for England. 12 players! VAR: We don't see anythng wrong.

KeanoMagicHat · Sep 28, 2022

Will never happen, but would be interesting XI:

Pope
Alexander-Arnold - Tomori - Stones - Chilwell
Rice
Bellingham - Foden
Saka - Kane - Sancho

Wednesday at Stoke · Sep 28, 2022

Sterling Kane Saka
Shaw Bellingham Rice James
Tomori Stones Walker
Ramsdale

DannyCAFC · Sep 28, 2022

90 + 5min said:
New rules for England. 12 players! VAR: We don't see anythng wrong.

Meant to take Mount out.

Although I'd say our odds of getting away with starting 12 players can't be much worse than our odds of actually winning the tournament at this rate, so maybe we should try and trot out an extra man and see if we can get away with it!

hodgey123 · Sep 28, 2022

Pickford has been outstanding for England for at least 4 years now, can't understand the calls to drop him for Ramsdale or Pope (who made a pretty basic error in his last game). In terms of other positions, Tomori should probably be coming in for Maguire alongside Stones now just to take him out of the fire completely. Walker still probably has enough credit in the bank to be the starting RB. Shaw remains the best option on the left unless Chilwell forces his way back into the Chelsea team.

Rice picks himself and Bellingham also appears to have convinced Southgate finally in the Nations League games. Ahead of them, Sterling, Saka and Kane are always going to be selected so the final slot is one of Grealish/Foden/Mount/Maddison, on form it is the latter but realistically it is going to be Mount probably.

BarcaSpurs · Sep 28, 2022

Pickford
Walker Dier Stones
James Rice Bellingham Shaw
Saka Kane Foden

Foden/Sterling probably the hardest decision.

Trumpeter Whydah · Sep 28, 2022

I-XI
______Sterling - Kane - Saka____
________Foden - Mount_________
_________Bellingham___________
Mitchell - Tomori - Walker - James
_____________Pope_____________

XII-XXII
_____Grealish - Abraham - Rashford_____
________Maddison - Phillips____________
_________________Rice___________________
Chilwell - Dier - Stones - Alexander-Arnold
_______________Ramsdale________________

XXIII
Pickford

In
Pope, Mitchell, Rashford
Out
Henderson, Shaw, Maguire, Wan-Bissaka, Guéhi, Coady, Henderson, Ward, Bowen, Toney

TrustInJanuzaj · Sep 28, 2022

It’s threads like these that make me realise the England squad is actually painfully average when some of the big guns go missing. Without an on form Maguire those CB options are genuinely horrendous. Keepers are pretty poor although Pickford is miles better than the rest currently. I don’t think the attack looks that strong either without an in form Rashford. No one except Rashford and Sterling can stretch the game and display good movement. Southgate is shite, but the squad is far from a “golden generation”.

bosnian_red · Sep 28, 2022

Should be:

Rashford - Kane - Saka
Bellingham - Mount
Rice
Shaw - Stones - Tomori - James
Pickford

2nd 11:

Sterling - Abraham - Sancho
JWP - Maddison
Phillips
Chilwell - Guehi - Maguire - Walker
Henderson

Pickford is shite but so are the others I guess. Rashford for me has to be in, Kane needs a player like him next to him to be at his best and Rashford gives a true threat in behind. Saka is a bit of a no brainer on the right right now. Bellingham easy pick, Mount or Maddison should rotate, rice an easy pick, back 4 pretty easy too. Only chance at success with Southgate as manager. Need a different manager/system to get the best out of guys like Grealish, Foden, Sancho, TAA. Sancho should be 2nd choice RW as he is closest natural RW after Saka. Foden is not a RW. England don't have the centerbacks to cover for Trent IMO so I can't include him.

Redandwhite22 · Sep 28, 2022

TrustInJanuzaj said:
It’s threads like these that make me realise the England squad is actually painfully average when some of the big guns go missing. Without an on form Maguire those CB options are genuinely horrendous. Keepers are pretty poor although Pickford is miles better than the rest currently. I don’t think the attack looks that strong either without an in form Rashford. No one except Rashford and Sterling can stretch the game and display good movement. Southgate is shite, but the squad is far from a “golden generation”.

Man, I disagree with most points here--I'm not English which explains my lack of pessimism and ball knowledge

. Get rid of 3 ATB, Rice and Bellingham is a really solid spine, so make room for Mount/Foden behind Sterling-Kane-Saka (or Rashford for either side). Pickford is solid, might cost a goal in the tournament. Ramsdale has now become underrated after being overrated initially--one of the best passing GKs. ENG really good chance to win it IMO.

MayosNoun · Sep 28, 2022

saivet said:
Pickford
James, Stones, Tomori, Shaw
Rice, Bellingham
Saka, Foden, Sterling
Kane

Players in bold I'd consider switching, depending on form.

This and I don’t even think it’s a difficult decision.

The 3 behind Kane are capable of switching positions and if Shaw has been eating too much Chilwell can play.

Gandalf · Sep 28, 2022

Being Welsh I would be pretty happy for a Southgate special, 7 defensive players and no tactics will do just fine but if I was picking an England team to win or in other words who I want to see when they go up against the USA it would be this.

Pickford

James Stones Tomori Shaw

Rice Bellingham

Sterling Mount Saka

Kane

FootballHQ · Sep 28, 2022

Rojofiam said:
How are people going with Pickford over Ramsdale or even Henderson?

Ramsdale was Pope lite in one of the June games.

Was Tomori even in the squad for these games? Bizarre he didn't feature in either as you'd feel he'd do alright in back 3, Southgate would probably start Coady over him.

Nani Nana · Sep 28, 2022

Sterling is past it, should not be anywhere near the starting XI

moses · Sep 28, 2022

Mike Smalling at CB I read somewhere earlier.

kaku06 · Sep 28, 2022

—————————Pickford—————————

————Walker——Stones——Tomori————

James————Rice——Bellingham———Shaw

————Saka———Kane———Grealish————

DannyCAFC · Sep 28, 2022

Trumpeter Whydah said:
I-XI
______Sterling - Kane - Saka____
________Foden - Mount_________
_________Bellingham___________
Mitchell - Tomori - Walker - James
_____________Pope_____________

XII-XXII
_____Grealish - Abraham - Rashford_____
________Maddison - Phillips____________
_________________Rice___________________
Chilwell - Dier - Stones - Alexander-Arnold
_______________Ramsdale________________

XXIII
Pickford

In
Pope, Mitchell, Rashford
Out
Henderson, Shaw, Maguire, Wan-Bissaka, Guéhi, Coady, Henderson, Ward, Bowen, Toney

No offence but that is a genuinely awful starting line-up. Pope in goal after his display the other day? Walker as a CB in a 4 man defence? Tyrick Mitchell? Bellingham as a lone holding midfielder?

GlasgowCeltic · Sep 28, 2022

If 433 id prob play TAA and get Philips to do the Henderson schtick at RCM, or just play Henderson

bosnian_red · Sep 29, 2022

Forgot Ramsdale existed. He is the obvious goalkeeper choice, though of course needs time to settle in to the national team expectations. But he's easily the best english keeper.

NoPace · Sep 29, 2022

————————-—Kane------—————-
Sterling————Maddison————-Saka
——————Bellingham——Rice———————
Shaw———-Guehi———Stones——James
———————-—Pickford———————

If Kane is dropping deep you need to pick Rashford on the left, so I’d probably just tell him to mostly forget about that and play as a proper 9. Maddison is a much improved player for me and Leicester being shit is sort of masking it. He looks like Wesley Sneijder at times now (I know I know) and I think could be effective as a 10 in international football. I don’t trust Mount or Foden to impact games as much, though I think betting it all on Foden in a 3 or playing Trent on the right in a midfield 3 are the only other gambles I could see fixing things.

Guehi scares me the least in a 4 man defence so I picked him but not the ideal partner for Stones.

I don’t think England are in good shape and Southgate should have certainly looked at Foden or Trent in midfield and Maddison these past couple games. Also Guehi and Tomori probably best hopes at lcb, not Maguire.

Bebestation · Sep 29, 2022

Rashford - Kane - Saka
Foden(Grealish)
Rice - Bellingham
Shaw - Tomori - Stones - James
Pickford

Scroto Baggins · Sep 29, 2022

I think Maddison and Dier deserve their chance. Both been in good form for their parent clubs. Although I will say Dier usually anchors a back three for Conte.

And I agree Kane needs some quicker players around him. Willing runners if he looks to slip in a ball behind.

At Spurs he has Son's explosive pace and he can drop deep to link play if he is not seeing a lot of play opportinities.

SirReginald · Sep 29, 2022

It’s crazy how nobody is picking trippier as LWB because that’s exactly what’s going to happen. The man is so completely underwhelming and predictable. He has been put in an uncomfortable position now that Bellingham played well that he can’t play his favourite midfield pairing of Philips and Rice.

Pickford
James Walker Dier Maguire Trippier
Bellingham Rice
Sterling Foden
Kane

TrustInJanuzaj · Sep 29, 2022

bosnian_red said:
Forgot Ramsdale existed. He is the obvious goalkeeper choice, though of course needs time to settle in to the national team expectations. But he's easily the best english keeper.

Hes crap

SilentWitness · Sep 29, 2022

bosnian_red said:
Forgot Ramsdale existed. He is the obvious goalkeeper choice, though of course needs time to settle in to the national team expectations. But he's easily the best english keeper.

I mean, he's really not. He's wildly overrated as has been proven already.

bosnian_red · Sep 29, 2022

SirReginald said:
It’s crazy how nobody is picking trippier as LWB because that’s exactly what’s going to happen. The man is so completely underwhelming and predictable. He has been put in an uncomfortable position now that Bellingham played well that he can’t play his favourite midfield pairing of Philips and Rice.

Pickford
James Walker Dier Maguire Trippier
Bellingham Rice
Sterling Foden
Kane

I think people are picking what they want/or think would be best rather than what Southgate will do

Stig · Sep 29, 2022

Why is James Ward-Prowse not going ?

He is, is he not, the best English freekick tacker.

We struggle to get goals from open play.

Surely you take your best freekick tacker if he is at least moderate at the rest of the game.

Irish Bhoy · Sep 29, 2022

Rojofiam said:
How are people going with Pickford over Ramsdale or even Henderson?

Agree. Pickford is poor. Ramsdale far superior.

SirReginald · Sep 29, 2022

Stig said:
Why is James Ward-Prowse not going ?

He is, is he not, the best English freekick tacker.

We struggle to get goals from open play.

Surely you take your best freekick tacker if he is at least moderate at the rest of the game.

On average: goal from corner 3%.. goal from free kick 6%.. Does not make sense in the slightest to play someone just because they are good at set pieces.

You cannot tell me with the attacking players and the wingbacks we have that we have an inability to create chances from open play. Their club stats would suggest otherwise. As Sterling replied when questioned about formation and tactics - it’s how Southgate wants them to play.

For too long Southgate has attempted to replicate Conte’s tactics and pass them off as his own like he is a tactical genius. Now teams have worked out how to nullify the team he has been found out. He is as clueless and unimaginative as he sounds in his interviews.

Walters_19_MuFc · Sep 29, 2022

Not a big fan of three at the back. Understand it worked for Southgate in the past but hasn't been great of late.

I'd personally go with a 4231:

Kane
Sterling Mount Saka
Bellingham Rice
Shaw Tomori Stones James
Pickford

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