If you say rest of the rats you are insinuating the main person mentioned is a rat as well. Old Loadsamoney needs to stop bragging.
Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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He didn't even need to bring his name up, but did a number of times.
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Ah okay, that's fair enough then. Thought it was a bit weird to keep going after Rooney for no reason.
As long as the contract has been drawn up by capable people at United’s end, it’s not that hard to invoke Gross Misconduct. Definitions are deliberately worded as vaguely as possible, but breaches of confidence are not looked upon favourably by the courts.
No doubt his fanboys will believe he can use the “whistleblower” defence.
He wouldn't have taken the bait had his new mate kept on bringing up SAF instead. Ronaldo hates anyone who doesn't tell him what he wants to here...like all narcissists.
Yeah, that's his sole aim of this interview, to try and get the sack. Ill advised.
They should just congratulate Bruno and Dalot.
Even if United do not have grounds for termination, they can suspend him. EtH has set out clear rules and guidelines for every player.
Ronaldo has come out and said, he wont play for 3 mins, well he is under contract at United as a player, he does what the manager tells him.
EtH should tell the board, its him or Ronaldo, he does not want him anywhere near the first team squad.
Go to the teams that wanted you, that will pay you. If none come in for him in Jan, he rots training alone not even with reserves because he isnt really a good role model.
People think Ronaldo, the utter professional, but clearly he isn't.
Ronaldo has come out and said, he wont play for 3 mins, well he is under contract at United as a player, he does what the manager tells him.
EtH should tell the board, its him or Ronaldo, he does not want him anywhere near the first team squad.
Go to the teams that wanted you, that will pay you. If none come in for him in Jan, he rots training alone not even with reserves because he isnt really a good role model.
People think Ronaldo, the utter professional, but clearly he isn't.
What Ronaldo meant is that Rooney is king rat. Which actually means he was being respectful.
So many inconsistencies in his thoughts. Delusion is too high.
I thought it was telling that Ronaldo couldn’t give any examples of Ten Hag’s disrespect beyond the substitution decisions we have all seen: decisions made in a live match situation which are completely the responsibility of the manager which Ronaldo, as a player, should follow.
He said that Ten Hag’s supportive stance on him publicly was different to how he behaved privately but failed to give any examples. I’m sure if there was anything significant he would have brought it up given that he seemed quite intent on burying Ten Hag in the interview. So this means there’s probably nothing. I expect it’s simply a case of Ten Hag treating Ronaldo the same as everyone else. I expect Ronaldo is used to special treatment but Ten Hag is all about the collective.
He said that Ten Hag’s supportive stance on him publicly was different to how he behaved privately but failed to give any examples. I’m sure if there was anything significant he would have brought it up given that he seemed quite intent on burying Ten Hag in the interview. So this means there’s probably nothing. I expect it’s simply a case of Ten Hag treating Ronaldo the same as everyone else. I expect Ronaldo is used to special treatment but Ten Hag is all about the collective.
I don’t agree with any of the ‘out of respect’ interpretations you give. If you really think Ronaldo has sacrificed himself in any major way to play for Man United, I think you are reading him very badly.
I don’t disagree on your point about empathy. Having an overly narcissistic personality can be very lonesome and scary experience, even in times of outward success. However, one caveat with empathy towards hypernarcissists - when they feck you over, your anger and even a little contempt is as important as your empathy, so as not to get sucked into their dysfunctional pattern. There are whole countries in disarray as a result of people getting vested in narcissistic personalities. The splits between those who take the narcissistic narratives at face value and those who experience it as self serving manipulating lies, can become ugly.
Even if one chuckles a bit at a 37 year old multi millionaire behaving like a 5 year old spoilt kid (a touch of contempt there on my part), there is also the need to stand up to the narcissistic agenda and set limits. The more power they have, the more ugly that can get. Ten Hag is doing a very difficult job well in that regard IMO, because he does what Solskjær and Rangnik couldn’t do -keeping the reat of the group together and secure while simultaneously handling the narcissistic personality.
As Ronaldo has made this attack on the club and the manager publically, Ithink it’s important that United fans show their anger publically (not violently) to avvoid being splitted too much and prevent the narcissistic personality from weakening the strength and togetherness of the club , the players and the manager.
I am eagerly waiting for his answer.
It’s pretty simple all of this when it comes down to it.
if Ronaldo is in the team every week this interview never happens. He doesn’t criticize ETH, the Glazers or any of the rest of it.
so it is only self serving petulant bollocks from a man who can’t accept he’s on the way down.
if Ronaldo is in the team every week this interview never happens. He doesn’t criticize ETH, the Glazers or any of the rest of it.
so it is only self serving petulant bollocks from a man who can’t accept he’s on the way down.
Surely you can work out it’s a joke just from the mere fact we haven’t won a charity shield since 2016?
Journos putting the boot into Ronaldo, I have no idea how he could have been so naive/deluded and no doubt Piers Morgan stoked the fire. Let him rot in the reserves or at home, ETH has given him ample opportunity and he’s been shockingly poor.
If we forget the brand and the name and just think about his performances on the pitch, there’s a strong argument that he’s not even a PL quality striker anymore. No real pace or acceleration, finishing has been poor (he’s actually had loads of chances), no pressing or stamina for an intense 90min game. Add in the off the field issues and constant moaning, he is living in a dream world.
If we forget the brand and the name and just think about his performances on the pitch, there’s a strong argument that he’s not even a PL quality striker anymore. No real pace or acceleration, finishing has been poor (he’s actually had loads of chances), no pressing or stamina for an intense 90min game. Add in the off the field issues and constant moaning, he is living in a dream world.
"Look I am not saying or implying XYZ" and then goes on to say precisely XYZ.
…I said no offence…
My overall thoughts about this is that I don't care much about him being a liar, self centered or that he has an issue with former players. The part that to me is unacceptable is what he said about Rangnick, his refusal to accept fairly normal tactical philosophies and also the way he clearly look down on the current manager. Even if you think that way, you never say it publically, you never act on it.
I don't see how such a player can be welcomed and accepted in any serious Football club.
I don't see how such a player can be welcomed and accepted in any serious Football club.
This is it for me. Everything else in that interview is irrelevant.
To speak in such a derogatory manner about your former and current coach is unforgivable.
To be fair, it’s probably the biggest compliment they’ve heard their dad receive. Better than Shrek.
I agree that he shouldn't have done it, he's obviously been deeply hurt by the alleged mistrust and disrespect. Now that he has, I look and what factual statements he's made (from his point of view) and ignore the slandering of individuals. The club hasn't shown the ambition of clubs like Real, nobody dares to talk about it publicly. The attitude of our players is also very accurate, just look at the likes of Martial and Sancho. I don't agree with the way Ronaldo did it, but he's right on this account...
And what good does it do to bring Ronaldo on with 3 minutes remaining? I agree with Ronaldo here that the manager at some point tried to make a statement, that he is the boss. I for one think ETH actually lacks capabilities in the emotional department. He's a good manager but man management capabilities is still very much TBD.
How has Pogba done worse? I don't remember him refusing to come on and subsequently leave the stadium, he sure shit as didn't give a gargantuan interview to Piers Morgan about how he doesn't respect the manager, the club's development, and his teammates. Sure, he batted his eyes at Madrid when on international duty (which was fecking annoying and needless), but it's a different stratosphere compared to the havoc Ronaldo has just attempted to wreak.
You’re absolutely in a minority. There’s absolutely zero chance he plays for Man Utd again. Even if it means we desperately have to play the likes of Eriksen or Bruno as a false 9, Ronaldo is done here. He is talking in the interview in a manner which he knows he’s done.
Exactly this.
He and Piers kept talking about what he's done in the past but we all know that football is about what you do in the present. Why didn't they discuss that?
And when he said the executives never believed him about his daughter, he didn't exactly sound convincing. It's almost like he was sheepish about saying it.
So much crap in this interview. All it's done is make him look like a fool. I genuinely feel as though I'm seeing the mental breakdown of a player in front of my eyes.
Was it only 3 minutes? I don't remember the exact timeline but ETH wanted Ronaldo to come on, he refused, ETH watched the game for a bit then subbed Eriksen and Elanga.
So it should be something up to 10 minutes including extra times if Ronaldo wasn't such a bitch.
So it should be something up to 10 minutes including extra times if Ronaldo wasn't such a bitch.
On that part, it's important to point out that it's not what actually happened. When Zidane was Real Madrid manager, the french press would link and ask top french players about Real Madrid.
And there’s only one winner in the “batting his eyes at Madrid while still under contract at Manchester United” competition.
I’m no fan of Pogba but Ronaldo behaved worse than him in his first stint at United, never mind his return.
Didnt watch a fecking word of it - so glad. Piers Morgan is one of the most annoying twats on TV - he's up there with James Corden. I'd rather put my cock in a spiraliser than watch that cnut. As for Ronaldo - he's dead to me. Never was as good as Cantona or Keane or Scholes or Pallister, Irwin, Lee Sharpe and many many more. Pick him for the next game so the fans can spit at him.
That's a good point.
Ronaldo after hearing the Rooney comments
Using the language barrier card is a pretty weak excuse. While Piers was looking for controversy Ronaldo has to take full accountability for the words he chose. Going after a club legend and ex-colleague (over mild criticism) who sacrificed a lot to accommodate Ronaldo is disgraceful.
I am a long way from a fan of Pogba but this is completely correct. Ronaldos behaviour and this interview is way off the chart of anything seen before. Even going back to Keanes interview after the Middlesborough game slagging everyone off that was done in the heat of the moment after watching a shockingly bad performance. This was staged and planned deliberately to engineer a move in January just like he tried to engineer a move in August.
I honestly think his biggest issue/ disrespect is the fact that he had to take a pay cut, like all the other players, for not qualifying for the champions league. He is that small minded and petty that he feels that a pay cut is beneath him.
He clearly wasn’t grouping Rooney as a rat, it’s lost in translation.
Such similarities with Jose Mourinho, if they’re going down, everyone within range is going down too. Toxic self-serving individuals.
Certain players seem to think that contracts should only be enforced when it suits them like for example they are injured or passing from a bad time. When things go wrong (ex when they become bench players or when another club is ready to shower them with money) then suddenly the club is disrespecting them or they are treating them as slaves.
But that's not all. If you notice Ronaldo had never said that he wants to leave. That despite everything in that interview points exactly to that. The reason being that he doesn't want to strengthen the club's legal team hand to simply terminate his job without paying him the remainder of his contract. Ronaldo wants his pound of flesh.
I can't help thinking that everything was planned way in advance. 3 months ago he came out threatening the club that unless they treat him the way he wants then he'll go to the media. Then he waited when Portugal had already named their squad for the WC and when the last EPL game had been played. That means that neither ETH nor Portugal can reply/react to it. Finally he chose one of the most disgusting interviewer in the British media knowing very well that he'll put as much fuel on the issue as possible making his coming back to the club almost impossible.
Ronaldo has shitted on both club and country. Despite all of that there some idiots who still protect him.
Not only him but also the rest of the rats. Which makes Rooney a rat.
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