Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

Is Ronaldo justified to say that he “feels betrayed” by Manchester United?

  • Ronaldo should be not be allowed to play for United again

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  • He's always been a massive bellend

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  • Messi has always been the better player

    Votes: 574 30.5%
  • He should be begged to come back with double the salary and ten Haag should bow to his greatness

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If you say rest of the rats you are insinuating the main person mentioned is a rat as well. Old Loadsamoney needs to stop bragging.
Tbf it’s not insinuating, it’s stating it directly by use of implication. If you say ‘Donald Duck and the other ducks’, that means that Donald Duck is a duck, and so are the other ducks. If you say ‘Mickey Mouse and the other ducks’, you hear that this is wrong.
If he however had said, ‘The rat Di Maria and the rat Fernandez didn’t criticise me, but Wayne Rooney and the other rats did’, he would have left open a very small possibility that Wayne Rooney was not a rat.

Calling people who criticise you ‘rats’ is also a very narcissistic, aggressive and dangerous way to talk.
 

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Not really. Possibly ambiguous, especially with English not being his first language, but you really can't rule that out from what he said.
I know if I had said those words I'd be including Rooney.
That's without factoring his general conduct throughout the interview and things like not shaking Neville's after he criticised him.
To be fair if someone is trying to say Ronaldo wasn’t calling Rooney a rat then I’d question if English were that posters first language
 

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Tbf it’s not insinuating, it’s stating it directly by use of implication. If you say ‘Donald Duck and the other ducks’, that means that Donald Duck is a duck, and so are the other ducks. If you say ‘Mickey Mouse and the other ducks’, you hear that this is wrong.
If he however had said, ‘The rat Di Maria and the rat Fernandez didn’t criticise me, but Wayne Rooney and the other rats did’, he would have left open a very small possibility that Wayne Rooney was not a rat.

Calling people who criticise you ‘rats’ is also a very narcissistic, aggressive and dangerous way to talk.
The funny thing is if anyone's a rat in this whole situation it's Ronaldo.
 

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I'd love to see Ronaldo try and call rooney a rat to his face and see if he's not picking his fake horse dentals up off the floor.
 

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That's bonkers mate. He'd have to have done a lot to better Ronaldo's first spell here.
To be fair we got like 2 years of Ronaldo elite form while going through 3/4 years of developing him. Ronaldinho didn’t need developed so if he stayed here 4/5 we would have had consistent, legendary performances for a lot longer in a Utd shirt imo
 

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He clearly wasn’t grouping Rooney as a rat, it’s lost in translation.
Is your English worse than his?

When you say "he and the other rats" that is grouping them together.

He knows exactly what he is saying. The only excuse you can give him is Piers is egging him on to bite, but clearly Ronaldo is hateful and dumb enough to bite.

I've lost all respect for him after this interview. A big primadonna baby.
 

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I'd love to see Ronaldo try and call rooney a rat to his face and see if he's not picking his fake horse dentals up off the floor.
I honestly dont think Rooney gives many fecks what Ronaldo thinks about him.
 

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I'd love to see Ronaldo try and call rooney a rat to his face and see if he's not picking his fake horse dentals up off the floor.
Ronaldo is taller and fitter. As Rocky said in one of his movies this is not a pie contest. However I do believe that his former team mates had learnt a thing or two about this. Ronaldo has zero respect apart from himself. TBH it hasn't surprised me at all. The way he conducted himself during the 'I'm a slave saga' was clear testament of that
 

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Ronaldo is taller and fitter. As Rocky said in one of his movies this is not a pie contest.
If this thread descends into an argument about who would win in a fight out of Rooney and Ronaldo then it needs a spot in the classics.

Phil Bardsley would spark em both.
 

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Ronaldo is taller and fitter. As Rocky said in one of his movies this is not a pie contest. However I do believe that his former team mates had learnt a thing or two about this. Ronaldo has zero respect apart from himself. TBH it hasn't surprised me at all. The way he conducted himself during the 'I'm a slave saga' was clear testament of that
I like the direction this thread is taking.

Would Rooney take Ronaldo in a fight? Absolutely. Ronaldo can't do anything outside of football. And he's a blouse.
 

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Ronaldo is taller and fitter. As Rocky said in one of his movies this is not a pie contest. However I do believe that his former team mates had learnt a thing or two about this. Ronaldo has zero respect apart from himself. TBH it hasn't surprised me at all. The way he conducted himself during the 'I'm a slave saga' was clear testament of that
Ronaldo would be too scared to get his face hurt. Being tall is no advantage in a real fight.

Rooney is a scouser from a traveller background. Think he'd smash him up personally
 

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Ronaldo is taller and fitter. As Rocky said in one of his movies this is not a pie contest. However I do believe that his former team mates had learnt a thing or two about this. Ronaldo has zero respect apart from himself. TBH it hasn't surprised me at all. The way he conducted himself during the 'I'm a slave saga' was clear testament of that
Rooney actually boxes. Don't matter how much of a stiff meathead in the gym, muscles don't win fights.
 

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I agree that he shouldn't have done it, he's obviously been deeply hurt by the alleged mistrust and disrespect. Now that he has, I look and what factual statements he's made (from his point of view) and ignore the slandering of individuals. The club hasn't shown the ambition of clubs like Real, nobody dares to talk about it publicly. The attitude of our players is also very accurate, just look at the likes of Martial and Sancho. I don't agree with the way Ronaldo did it, but he's right on this account...

And what good does it do to bring Ronaldo on with 3 minutes remaining? I agree with Ronaldo here that the manager at some point tried to make a statement, that he is the boss. I for one think ETH actually lacks capabilities in the emotional department. He's a good manager but man management capabilities is still very much TBD.
Fully disagree with this.

Doesn’t matter if its 3 minutes or 3 seconds. To refuse to come on the pitch when the manager asks is wholly unprofessional. ETH isn’t trying to make some point that he is the boss. He actually IS the boss. And you are on a slippery slope once you allow players to start picking and choosing when they will or will not come on to the pitch. It would lead to absolute anarchy.

The fact Ronaldo in the interview last night doubled down on this point last night was shocking. Shows his delusions of grandeur he has about himself. The comparison with the City game isn’t an equal one at all in my opinon. We were battered out of sight in that game, so it was damage limitation for large parts of the game – something Ronaldo wouldn’t have helped with.

If any of us turn into work today and refuse a perfectly acceptable work request from our boss, and then on top walk out of our workplace right after it, we are on the dole queue in the morning. He should be treated no different.
 

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I like the direction this thread is taking.

Would Rooney take Ronaldo in a fight? Absolutely. Ronaldo can't do anything outside of football. And he's a blouse.
Definitely. Ronaldo is fit but Rooney was a warrior. There was that one clip of him amusingly getting knocked out but he used to box and was always fearless.
 

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Ronaldo is taller and fitter. As Rocky said in one of his movies this is not a pie contest. However I do believe that his former team mates had learnt a thing or two about this. Ronaldo has zero respect apart from himself. TBH it hasn't surprised me at all. The way he conducted himself during the 'I'm a slave saga' was clear testament of that
Ronaldo would piss himself vs Rooney
 

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Ronaldo is taller and fitter. As Rocky said in one of his movies this is not a pie contest. However I do believe that his former team mates had learnt a thing or two about this. Ronaldo has zero respect apart from himself. TBH it hasn't surprised me at all. The way he conducted himself during the 'I'm a slave saga' was clear testament of that
First of all I don't think Ronaldo meant Rooney when he said Rats. He mentioned Rooney and then mentioned 'and the rest of the rats', he probably meant the others as being rats and Rooney by himself. Despite the fact that he is annoyed at Rooney 'criticising' him it doesn't mean he called him a rat.

On the second point, Rooney would knock Ronaldo spark out, let's be real. Idc how fit and tall Ronaldo is and how fat Rooney is.
 

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If this thread descends into an argument about who would win in a fight out of Rooney and Ronaldo then it needs a spot in the classics.

Phil Bardsley would spark em both.
Anyone who thinks Cristiano would stand a chance against Rooney needs their heads checking. He’s all show.

Throwing Bungalow into the mix is an interesting one, we know he floored Rooney that time but was that just punchers chance? Rooney is from a boxing background after all, definitely think both would trounce Cristiano.
 

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The problem with this interview is, nothing of significance came out. I don't see the point of the interview.

The only thing he's managed to achieve is, get people to turn on him. Sad.
Right? I watched both parts and learned absolutely nothing. Even when it came to the pre season fiasco he explicitly stated he didnt want to go into details. Like, this was a platform for him to apparently tell what actually happened from the start of pre season until his last game. What was said, what was going on in the background... and what did he actually tell? That his daughter was ill, that the hierarchy "didnt believe him" (even though he put a post up on IG thanking the club and staff for their support) and he even went on to say it was actually the Press and Media that didnt believe him in the end anyway. We also learnt that he didnt like being bought on for 3 minutes.

YET when poked for further details he wouldnt go into it. So out of all of it the only thing I came away any wiser about was that his daughter had Bronchitis!
 

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I fully imagine Ronaldo standing at his sons bed saying: Your dad is the best in the world, the best, he's the best. Repeat after me, you're the best.

This is such an excellent story to realize that, while these dudes are very rich and famous, most of em are thick and childish cnuts like the rest of us.
 

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I like the direction this thread is taking.

Would Rooney take Ronaldo in a fight? Absolutely. Ronaldo can't do anything outside of football. And he's a blouse.
I thought that post was silly. However I find people who think that footballers who have a reputation to be tough on the pitch can simply thrash anyone is silly especially when they are old and clearly out of form. The same comments tend to be thrown on Roy Keane's direction. FFS he's a 50year old+, 5ft11 guy who had his shares of injuries not fecking Wolverine.
 

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Rooney would destroy Ronaldo in a game of fists. Ronaldo might win if it were a game of handbags.
 

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I thought that post was silly. However I find people who think that footballers who have a reputation to be tough on the pitch can simply thrash anyone is silly especially when they are old and clearly out of form. The same comments tend to be thrown on Roy Keane's direction. FFS he's a 50year old+, 5ft11 guy who had his shares of injuries not fecking Wolverine.
Keano would knock both you and Ronaldo out.

I think it's time this thread turned into a Ronaldo vs Rooney fistfight discussion
 

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It’s pretty simple all of this when it comes down to it.

if Ronaldo is in the team every week this interview never happens. He doesn’t criticize ETH, the Glazers or any of the rest of it.

so it is only self serving petulant bollocks from a man who can’t accept he’s on the way down.
He mentioned when he was talking to his son about the suspension, he son was wondering why they were suspending the “best player in the world”. He truly believes it. That’s why there is all of this reaction. We are often last to see our own decline, I don’t begrudge him that. But either way, I think the club needs to stand very firm and not let him get what he wants.
 

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Rooney would pretty clearly win, unless Ronaldo has been trained to fight in some way we don't know about. Being taller and fitter is good, but if you don't even know how to throw a punch properly then and you're against someone who can actually fight then it won't be much use to you.
 

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I thought that post was silly. However I find people who think that footballers who have a reputation to be tough on the pitch can simply thrash anyone is silly especially when they are old and clearly out of form. The same comments tend to be thrown on Roy Keane's direction. FFS he's a 50year old+, 5ft11 guy who had his shares of injuries not fecking Wolverine.
Rooney has done boxing. He'd smash many. As for Keane, he's still fit, and an ex boxer. I suspect he can still handle himself.

*I like this thread.
 

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Right? I watched both parts and learned absolutely nothing. Even when it came to the pre season fiasco he explicitly stated he didnt want to go into details. Like, this was a platform for him to apparently tell what actually happened from the start of pre season until his last game. What was said, what was going on in the background... and what did he actually tell? That his daughter was ill, that the hierarchy "didnt believe him" (even though he put a post up on IG thanking the club and staff for their support) and he even went on to say it was actually the Press and Media that didnt believe him in the end anyway. We also learnt that he didnt like being bought on for 3 minutes.

YET when poked for further details he wouldnt go into it. So out of all of it the only thing I came away any wiser about was that his daughter had Bronchitis!

You can't blame him for not wanting to come on for 3 minutes if you are only being paid £500,000 pound a week, it's a paltry amount,
he is being treated like a slave again.
 

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Right? I watched both parts and learned absolutely nothing. Even when it came to the pre season fiasco he explicitly stated he didnt want to go into details. Like, this was a platform for him to apparently tell what actually happened from the start of pre season until his last game. What was said, what was going on in the background... and what did he actually tell? That his daughter was ill, that the hierarchy "didnt believe him" (even though he put a post up on IG thanking the club and staff for their support) and he even went on to say it was actually the Press and Media that didnt believe him in the end anyway. We also learnt that he didnt like being bought on for 3 minutes.

YET when poked for further details he wouldnt go into it. So out of all of it the only thing I came away any wiser about was that his daughter had Bronchitis!
And that is all I learnt, too. My daughter had the exact same thing about 4 weeks after she was born. Stayed in hospital for 1 week. Was terrifying.

But the rest as you say, is just pointless. Doesn't go into any detail on how EtH doesn't respect him. Doesn't talk about how other players were treated differently to him. I don't get it. He says nothing earth shattering that we didn't already know.
 

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Why are we all talking about fisticuffs? Lets set them both down to do an IQ exam and see what happens.
 

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First of all I don't think Ronaldo meant Rooney when he said Rats. He mentioned Rooney and then mentioned 'and the rest of the rats', he probably meant the others as being rats and Rooney by himself. Despite the fact that he is annoyed at Rooney 'criticising' him it doesn't mean he called him a rat.

On the second point, Rooney would knock Ronaldo spark out, let's be real. Idc how fit and tall Ronaldo is and how fat Rooney is.
He said Rooney followed by the rest of the rats. He could simply said rats or corrected himself by saying 'I am not referring to Rooney of course'.

I am now clearly out of form but in the past I did my share of workouts and martial arts (Krav Maga, Aikijitsu etc). I assure you that being out of form makes you slower, it impacts your strength, your stamina and your reaction time significantly especially when you start getting older. There's a lot to be said about Ronaldo but one thing is clear. The guy is in shape.
 

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The only right response to this interview would be mutual agreement to terminate Ronaldo's contract right away. There is no foundation of trust between ETH and Ronaldo anymore and with this only one reason we have to let him go. Think about if Ron still in the team and ETH got asked and challenged all his decisions on Ron in every single game, no way we could play well in that pressure.

Some posts keep downplaying this interview and call it "not that bad". It is really that bad. We could call Ron childish / narcissistic or whatever excuse to justify his venting out in public , but at the end of the day the fact is that Ron did not agree with ETH's disciplines and his tactics nor able to perform the needed level to guarantee his starter, while not accepting his role as rotation option and claiming "he was not respected" . So the only solution is let him go. I believe that's what he wants .

With this interview, he successfully turns the narrative from "too old to guarantee starter and be swept out of door" to "victim of poor management and owner who only cared about business instead of sports" . Very bold and smart move . Well played.
Smart? All it will do is put off any of the potential suitors when it comes to finding a new club. I would say it’s the opposite of smart, and purely self indulgent.
 

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Not only him but also the rest of the rats. Which makes Rooney a rat.
No he said "Rooney and the other rats". Which again, because of the intricacies of the language can be taken both ways either Rooney is included or he was pointing Rooney out and then calling the others rats depends entirely on your interpretation only Ronaldo really knows for sure.
 
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