Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

Is Ronaldo justified to say that he “feels betrayed” by Manchester United?

  • Ronaldo should be not be allowed to play for United again

    Votes: 1,536 81.7%
  • He's always been a massive bellend

    Votes: 884 47.0%
  • Messi has always been the better player

    Votes: 574 30.5%
  • He should be begged to come back with double the salary and ten Haag should bow to his greatness

    Votes: 126 6.7%

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To be fair, he did say that he was wrong, didn't behave and apologized to the coach and his teammates. Which makes the issue slightly deeper, he genuinely thinks that he was disrespected when he wasn't, he genuinely thinks that his sentiements are justified even if his public response wasn't. That to me points to a player/employee that is a problem for the managing team and a potential if not actual disruptive dressing room presence.
I may have misheard but I think he said he only apologised to his teammates.
 

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Would publicly saying that the club didn’t support him through his daughter’s illness when there is categorically proof that they gave him leave of absence not constitute gross misconduct?

It’s a very heavy accusation he’s thrown there. I’m not employment law expert admittedly, but that’s serious reputational damage on a downright lie.
I don’t know. You’d need someone way more qualified than me to answer that. I think that it might not be sufficient justification. My understanding is that gross misconduct is usually reserved for stuff like turning up drunk, fighting, stealing stuff, sexual harassment etc. I don’t think slagging off your boss/colleagues is considered sufficient justification. Especially when going up against the no doubt incredibly high powered legal team Ronaldo can afford, who can split hairs all day about how much of what he said is opinion vs facts.

Maybe @Brophs has an opinion on this? Despite being a borderline idiot he does at least have the right qualifications.
 

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Ronaldo will act like his dismissal was unfair and ridiculous.

When he obviously purposely did the interview to get himself sacked and spoke about his time at United in the past tense several times
 

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Looks like United and their lawyers are really intent on finding legal ground to break his contract without having to pay any sort of compensation
Some of the folks keep saying Ronaldo is dumb and hasn’t been advised. That is patently not true. It will not be a straightforward case.
He will argue he is merely saying what others have said re the Glazers.
His attack on the younger players are his opinions only and he said they are a product of the period.
Even his attack on ETH is premised on him being disrespected first.
You can say this is all BS which I agree as his intent is to force an exit, but from a legal standpoint he has defences.
 

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Like we will probably see in Jan, a solution/compromise would have been found if they really wanted.
That's not answer. You can't say that ETH actively kept a player when there was no actual alternatives.
 

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I find this thought process so bizarre. Stop elevating football players to these ridiculous levels. They're human beings not God's. They're paid enormous wages and it's not a big deal if they come for a short bit. It's part of being in a team.
That's the world we live in where entitled clowns feel like that they can break the rules they want and not be punished for it. If you consider yourself an example then simply be exemplary
 

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Well his last game ever for the club as it stands is that loss vs Villa where he was captain and played 90 minutes. No respect from manager at all.
 

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Yup. It's one of the reasons players are advised to not go to court. FIFA's stance is to not transfer registrations while court cases are open.
That might suit him if he can’t find a club that wants him. He can tell the world that loads of CL clubs are desperate to sign him but have been prevented by nasty evil big bully United’s court action. His fans would love that.
 

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Well his last game ever for the club as it stands is that loss vs Villa where he was captain and played 90 minutes. No respect from manager at all.
His last week at the club he started three games in a row vs West Ham, Sociedad and Villa, played the full 90 in all of them and was fecking dogshit in all of them too.

A fitting end.
 
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United fans will side with ETH, because we have been in freefall, and need someone to rescue us, and we think Ten Hag is the guy. Ronaldo no longer is, as he is 37 and in rapid decline. Also Ronaldo's behaviour has been really bad.

However that doesnt change a few hard realities. Ten Hag has achieved f-all compared to Ronaldo. All he has is couple of trophies from a second rate league, while Ronaldo has won it all. In 15 years time, ETH(like most managers) will fade into obscurity, while Ronaldo will always be celebrated, as the one of the GOATs of football. There's no comparison.

So I can understand if Ronaldo felt disrespected by ETH's actions(not subbing him on against City for "respect" but then asking him to come on for 3mins against tottenham). Ultimately, it should have been handled behind closed doors, and its time for Ronaldo to leave the club.
This is a fecking disgusting post!
 

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I’m not convinced Ronaldo called Piers Morgan out of the blue and said can you interview me I’ve got somethings I want to say:

It was probably more like, Morgan has been messaging Ronaldo over the last couple of months and saying “I can’t believe they are treating you like this”. “You are the GOAT, how can they do this”

Ronaldo “yes Piers, I don’t know why they treat me like this”

It must have been from these conversations that Morgan convinced him, with plenty of ass licking, to do the “interview”, which Ronaldo agreed. So even though Ronaldo agreed to it, Piers Morgan definitely did a sales pitch to get this done!
Ronaldo - Keane - Morgan.
Hook - Line - Stinker.
 

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I know. But saying losing to Brentford is worse than Ronaldo disrespecting the club, coach, team mates in the interview is ridiculous


My main point was I don't care if we lose it happens to the best of them. A player disrespecting the club is more worse but if one thinks losing is worse then football must be


Jeesh...I am saying the interview is worse than losing a game of football. Teams lose all the time but barely do players have interviews disrespecting the team that pays them.
You don't think this interview can't influence a young player looking up to him in a bad way?
It's not ridiculous and your circular reasoning that me thinking a heavy loss is worse than this interview means football is the most important thing in my life, makes no sense when it's followed by your outrage at a disgruntled player shitting on their employee.

Maybe I just don't care nor put much stock into the tantrums of - and what a guy at the end of his career has got to say - especially when at the core of it is just the fact that he's not performed well enough to get the minutes he thinks he has god given right to?

Losing happens to the best of them - but there's losing, and then there's getting slapped 4-0 by Brentford and the beatings City has given United in recent years. To me those are worse than Ronaldo babbling incoherent stuff for however how long with Piers Morgan. Most sensible people will give this interview 2 minutes of their attention span and think "eh, he's gone soon" and move on. CR37 is finished and most United fans don’t or shouldn’t care about what he says.

The real glory is going to be seeing how he struggles to find a big club with European pedigree after the world cup as a free agent. He won't be able to hide behind the excuse that he's being denied a move by his club.

He's too much of a narcissist to compromise on wages to join a team like Sporting, so he'll inevitably end up in the Middle East or China. Meanwhile Messi will continue to bang in the goals in the CL which would probably destroy PR7's fragile little ego :drool:

All we need now is Messi to lift the World Cup and overtake his CL goal scoring record, just so we can definitively end the GOAT argument.
Eh, I’m all for getting rid, but I have no allegiance to Messi. He’s never done anything for United, whereas Ronaldo at least was the best player in the world here once and a catalyst for a lot of trophies. Yes, it’s all gone sour now, but still.

I think he’ll struggle to find a big European club, but despite what the likes of Bayern say about not being interested, I could still see them moving for him if on a free - and if decides to compromise on wages.
 

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I find this thought process so bizarre. Stop elevating football players to these ridiculous levels. They're human beings not God's. They're paid enormous wages and it's not a big deal if they come for a short bit. It's part of being in a team.
Say this about any footballer I agree, even the likes of Rooney/Keane for example. But Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona...sorry I'm not gonna pretend they are the same as other football players. Because they are not, and whether anybody accepts that or not is irrelevant. They are iconic generational figures, who will always be remembered in history, whose reach exceeds far beyond just football. Nobody is saying they are gods who can do no wrong. But they are not the same as other players, not even close, and I understand why they would want special treatment.

Anyway, this whole thing is a personal judgement, and there is obviously no right or wrong here. All I was saying was I get why Ronaldo felt disrespected. This is not a defence of Ronaldo, I still think he should be kicked out of the squad. And that's all I'll say on this.
 

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It's not ridiculous and your circular reasoning that me thinking a heavy loss is worse than this interview means football is the most important thing in my life, makes no sense when it's followed by your outrage at a disgruntled player shitting on their employee.

Maybe I just don't care nor put much stock into the tantrums of - and what a guy at the end of his career has got to say - especially when at the core of it is just the fact that he's not performed well enough to get the minutes he thinks he has god given right to?

Losing happens to the best of them - but there's losing, and then there's getting slapped 4-0 by Brentford and the beatings City has given United in recent years. To me those are worse than Ronaldo babbling incoherent stuff for however how long with Piers Morgan. Most sensible people will give this interview 2 minutes of their attention span and think "eh, he's gone soon" and move on.



Eh, I’m all for getting rid, but I have no allegiance to Messi. He’s never done anything for United, whereas Ronaldo at least was the best player in the world here once and a catalyst for a lot of trophies. Yes, it’s all gone sour now, but still.

I think he’ll struggle to find a big European club, but despite what the likes of Bayern say about not being interested, I could still see them moving for him if on a free - and if decides to compromise on wages.
IMHO, even if he played for free for Bayern, they'd end up benching/regretting him. Choupo Moting is currently a much better for their needs (Ronaldo would still be asked to press from the front)
 

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Oh cool, have you worked with him before?
Well he did go round handing out contract extensions like sweets.

As far as I’m aware, there’s a standard Premier League player’s contract which I imagine has been drawn up by people who know what they’re doing. So yeah I doubt the dear departed Mr Judge had much to do with that side.
 

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To be fair, he did say that he was wrong, didn't behave and apologized to the coach and his teammates. Which makes the issue slightly deeper, he genuinely thinks that he was disrespected when he wasn't, he genuinely thinks that his sentiements are justified even if his public response wasn't. That to me points to a player/employee that is a problem for the managing team and a potential if not actual disruptive dressing room presence.
Well yeah, he clearly says that everyone can't get the same treatment, indicating that he, because he's Cristiano Ronaldo, should get treated differently than all the others. His defendes, like Rio for example, have also alluded to the same. I don't know any management guide that would ever recommend a manager to play favourites or to let some people get away with things that others don't get away with, regardless of their stature in the field. Also, there's a very big mismatch between Ronaldo's stature and his output, so letting him get his way while being shite on the pitch would set a horrible example for this squad that is just getting back in line after running the asylum for the past three years.
 

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Good bye fecking cnut. Irrelevant in 2 years when he'll be in the playoffs to win the Gilette MLS awesome cup.
 

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His last week at the club he started three games in a row vs West Ham, Sociedad and Villa, played the full 90 in all of them and was fecking dosghit in all of them too.

A fitting end.
Yeah, shame he's too deluded to see how shite he was. I mean sure Ronaldo could have good World Cup and actually get better to play for another few years but this season he's been poor and it's simple as that.
 

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be surprised if any big club wants him after that interview. Teams will look at it and think he’s just sulking because he’s not in the managers plans. He didn’t say all this last year when he was starting every week. He’s only gutted because he’s not able to get personal trophies and achievements when he’s not playing. All about himself.
 

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Well he did go round handing out contract extensions like sweets.

As far as I’m aware, there’s a standard Premier League player’s contract which I imagine has been drawn up by people who know what they’re doing. So yeah I doubt the dear departed Mr Judge had much to do with that side.
Nope it was well known Judge got his crayons out and wrote the contract on the back of a Frosties box.
 

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Say this about any footballer I agree, even the likes of Rooney/Keane for example. But Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona...sorry I'm not gonna pretend they are the same as other football players.
Nobody asked you to pretend. But coming off the bench and being substituted - these are not disrespectful acts unless one has an overwhelming misconception of their self importance. They're part and parcel of team sport. Besides it also has to be considered that Ronaldo has been playing like utter trash.

Besides I don't even believe he's in that company but even with Messi I don't think he should be above that. For this football club for example Rooney is a bigger legend than Ronaldo. Giggs and Scholes bigger than both. I don't even remember thinking about this wrt them.
 

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I agree but posters suggested that we could be in a situation where the club fire him without compensation and Ronaldo subsequently sues for the lost salary.
He won't do that.

United won't fire him (without compensation) unless they are very certain they have pretty much undeniable/iron clad legal grounds for doing so.

If they don't, some kind of compromise will be agreed upon.

Ronaldo may be (probably is) a delusional moron, but he will have legal advisors who will stop him from making an absolute arse of himself with regard to this.
 

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Nope it was well known Judge got his crayons out and wrote the contract on the back of a Frosties box.
:lol:

The Premier League might be immoral organisation founded on greed, but I have no doubt it keeps a handle on its member clubs regarding stuff like player contracts.
 

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Say this about any footballer I agree, even the likes of Rooney/Keane for example. But Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona...sorry I'm not gonna pretend they are the same as other football players. Because they are not, and whether anybody accepts that or not is irrelevant. They are iconic generational figures, who will always be remembered in history, whose reach exceeds far beyond just football. Nobody is saying they are gods who can do no wrong. But they are not the same as other players, not even close, and I understand why they would want special treatment.

Anyway, this whole thing is a personal judgement, and there is obviously no right or wrong here. All I was saying was I get why Ronaldo felt disrespected. This is not a defence of Ronaldo, I still think he should be kicked out of the squad. And that's all I'll say on this.
They are just like any other players, that is a fact. They have to sign a contract, and abide by its terms like every other 'ordinary' player. They will not get any special treatment, and your delusional belief is irrelevant to those facts.
 

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That's not answer. You can't say that ETH actively kept a player when there was no actual alternatives.
That's a good point, but I think alternatives would have been found, if Ronaldo knew he wouldnt be a key first team player. Like they will be found in Jan, when its even more difficult to get a deal done. But that is guesswork on my part, yes. Anyway, I was addressing the "disrespect" thing, and my point was not about what happened over the summer.


I sense you are struggling with this, I understand, it must be difficult.

Furthermore, if ETH does for you what say Klopp has done for Liverpool (another title another CL) then I'm sorry but in 15 years time he most certainly will have not faded into obscurity.
Cut the patronizing. Dunno why an Arsenal fan is getting so triggered over this.

And you say another PL, another CL, like its so easy, when we have all seen how easy it is to fail at United as a manager. I have high hopes for Ten Hag, but I'm not a blind optimist, and will not count imaginary trophies in the future.
 

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Good to see the club waiting for a few days before the World Cup and Ronaldo about to arrive to make a statement. Means he’s distracted and the Portugal FA won’t like that at all
 

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So why hasn’t he for United this season? He’s received loads of service.
Loads of rubbish service to be fair , our final ball decision making is poor at moment. Aligned with CR being slower and off his game. It won’t be any different at next club. He’s fit enough but not keen enough any longer
 
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