More myth than legend.
Is Cristiano Ronaldo a United Legend?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Football legend not United's.
He is but he’s not in the top rung.
You really think he's having digs at United (and anyone else who isnt sucking him off) because he cares about the club?
Exactly this.
Lead to us winning the CL in '08. Yes, i'd say he's a United legend. We've won it a total of mere three times. And he was our best player back then, by a distance.
Not bothered about his love for the club. I'm just saying parts of his argumentation is true. We all know we are far from a well run club.
A legendary player who played for United once (or twice technically).
In terms of United itself, he’s a respected but not necessarily liked legend in my eyes.
In terms of United itself, he’s a respected but not necessarily liked legend in my eyes.
He had a great season scoring 42. But in all honesty it was the Scholsey winner against Barca that got us in the CL final. CR7 scored the goal in the final but he also missed his penalty. He also missed a penalty against Barca away. Tevez, Rooney and our rock solid defence contributed as well. Not taking away anything from him but the CL success was a UNITED effort. He was brilliant in the Premiership though.
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Even before he came back, you had many fans saying that Ronaldo was amazing for us but not a club legend, at least not United legend, but Madrid's and of football in general. I guess Ronaldo is United legend if there is more than one "levels" of a legend, for example - Scholes being in 1st/highest category.
This is probably not a popular opinion but the best thing about the team from 2006 to 2009 was the defence as a collective.
No, this last week is every part of his legacy as any other period. The man is trying to get fired, it’s absurd when you think about it
Helped in catching Liverpool's title record. For that I thank him to this day, even though it feels like lifetime ago.
I can call him a legend in some aspect, but then again he's the one choosing what person he wants to be...
I can call him a legend in some aspect, but then again he's the one choosing what person he wants to be...
Played a vital part in the club winning trophies, won a Ballon d'Or with the club, is one of the top 15 scorers all-time. Yes, he is a United legend.
He is in the process of tarnishing his image forever but nobody can take away what he did for the club on the pitch. Giggs appears to be an awful human being more or less but nobody questions his United legacy.
He is in the process of tarnishing his image forever but nobody can take away what he did for the club on the pitch. Giggs appears to be an awful human being more or less but nobody questions his United legacy.
YupThe cnut had 2 great seasons here. Two.
No, I never considered him a legend for this club.
No, I never considered him a legend for this club.
Thats a bit harsh. Im really not his fan boy but it took off around 06 (with him and Wazza almost catching up with Chelsea it wasnt to be that season) and he had three more great seasons in 07 08 and 09 but 08 being his pinnacle.
08/09 he spent half the season sulking. Didn't perform close to 06/07 or 07/08.
Well I think he did well despite that but there is no reason to nit pick. Sulking or not
TBF they're probably the two best seasons anyone has had at United. He's not a legend though, not even close.
Ever since he left ive been saying he's not a legend only to get a horde of naysayers.
Finally most of them have opened there eyes.
Finally most of them have opened there eyes.
Amigos, Ronaldo WAS a United legend before he pissed it all away this week.
I agree; if he had stayed another couple of seasons instead of going to Spain his myth might have become Legend. He was a great, great asset and player and that can never be denied but he should never have returned as any chance of myth becoming legend has now been lost.
He is a United legend, if not just for records he kept on braking, but this is a bitter ending.
I'm not awfully fond of Ronaldo these days but we won three back to back PL titles and a CL title which we haven't been able to win since he left. I doubt even SAF would have been able to achieve that kind of dominance without Ronaldo.
Coming from someone who really can't stand him pretty much since 2009, I'm afraid the answer is yes. Lenged, icon, United great, you name it...
Yes, he only had 2 incredible seasons with us, and yes he's an enormous legend of the game and Real Madrid... and he's an utter bellend, an egomaniac...
But he was a truly key figure in one of the most successful periods we have ever known, a period that United fans will talk about in the future; So he'll definitely be talked about as well.
He'll never be regarded as Bobby or Best, nor Giggs (definite legend- cnut of a human being) nor Scholes, not Keane and Robson and Eric.
He'll never have That status amongst United fans IMO.
But he'll be spoken about and be regarded in the same "tier" as, say, Schmeichel. Bloody brilliant for the most part, not loved by the entire crowd...
His latest shenanigans will be forgotten much to my disdain, and people will eventually remember him as one of the best players to play in a United shirt, peak-wise. No problem for me if Wes Brown, Denis Irwin or Gary Neville are much bigger legends than he is in United circles, if some would like to define it that way.
But there's no doubt in my mind who'll be talked about more in a couple of decades.
Yes, he only had 2 incredible seasons with us, and yes he's an enormous legend of the game and Real Madrid... and he's an utter bellend, an egomaniac...
But he was a truly key figure in one of the most successful periods we have ever known, a period that United fans will talk about in the future; So he'll definitely be talked about as well.
He'll never be regarded as Bobby or Best, nor Giggs (definite legend- cnut of a human being) nor Scholes, not Keane and Robson and Eric.
He'll never have That status amongst United fans IMO.
But he'll be spoken about and be regarded in the same "tier" as, say, Schmeichel. Bloody brilliant for the most part, not loved by the entire crowd...
His latest shenanigans will be forgotten much to my disdain, and people will eventually remember him as one of the best players to play in a United shirt, peak-wise. No problem for me if Wes Brown, Denis Irwin or Gary Neville are much bigger legends than he is in United circles, if some would like to define it that way.
But there's no doubt in my mind who'll be talked about more in a couple of decades.
I think if he goes to USA/Italy or wherever, he’d still have his song sung from time to time. And in 5-10 years Reds would still remember him fondly for the many good memories.
However, I have a suspicion he’ll go to Liverpool in January and ensure none of the above happens and there’s no debate
However, I have a suspicion he’ll go to Liverpool in January and ensure none of the above happens and there’s no debate
Hmm, really, as remember us doing 3 back to back title wins starting with a treble without this narcissist wanker.
I agree with what you say. That’s how he’ll be looked at in the future.
Really!!?!?!???
Never going to happen.
Never in a million years.
Cannot even fathom why you think it will. He is literally the last kind of player that I think Liverpool will sign for a variety of reasons - wage and style mainly
In that time period. The rebuild SAF completed from circa 2003 to 2009 was spearheaded by Ronaldo. You can't tell me we'd have achieved what we did within this time period without him. No matter how solid a defense we had or the addition of players like Berbatov he was ultimately the defining presence.
Desperation. They’re having a poor season for their standards and need someone established who will smash a few goals in during the second half of the season
I’ll repeat myself.
That will never happen
I just cannot see it that they will be that desperate. Does he get any minutes over Darwin or Firminio?
They are more likely to resort to breaking their PED cycle
They couldn't accept Mane's wages they aren't going to pay for Ronaldo. Besides he's the most unKlopplike player ever.
I'm trying not to pile on here but ..
This has to be one of the worst shouts I've ever seen.
1 of only 4 players to win the Ballon d’or as a United player, and the only player in the last 50 years.
Catalyst for winning 3 titles in a row, 1 of only 3 Champions Leagues the club has won, and nearly won back to back Champions Leagues as well. He was the star and the main man for all of this.
The best player I’ve ever seen in a United shirt. From goal records to skill, the most exciting player I’ve seen at United. He even created a free kick technique during his stint with us.
He certainly is a United legend for all that.
And as for his interview. 90% of what he said gets spoken about on RedCafe on a daily basis. The only point I disagree with is the disrespect of the current manager which makes his position at the club untenable.
The facts are he should have never come back to United. Why did we think signing a 36 year old on £500k a week was a good footballing decision? That’s down to our incompetent board (I’m including Sir Alex in that decision). It made the Glazers a nice profit on their shares at the time. Any sensible club would stop worrying about what their rival are doing. We have been bitten by City on Maguire, Fred and Ronaldo. Had he signed for City we may of had a run at Haaland, who’s the next mega star.
Catalyst for winning 3 titles in a row, 1 of only 3 Champions Leagues the club has won, and nearly won back to back Champions Leagues as well. He was the star and the main man for all of this.
The best player I’ve ever seen in a United shirt. From goal records to skill, the most exciting player I’ve seen at United. He even created a free kick technique during his stint with us.
He certainly is a United legend for all that.
And as for his interview. 90% of what he said gets spoken about on RedCafe on a daily basis. The only point I disagree with is the disrespect of the current manager which makes his position at the club untenable.
The facts are he should have never come back to United. Why did we think signing a 36 year old on £500k a week was a good footballing decision? That’s down to our incompetent board (I’m including Sir Alex in that decision). It made the Glazers a nice profit on their shares at the time. Any sensible club would stop worrying about what their rival are doing. We have been bitten by City on Maguire, Fred and Ronaldo. Had he signed for City we may of had a run at Haaland, who’s the next mega star.
This is a good precise. I thought he was actually quite quite against Chelsea in Moscow but without his goals we wouldn't have won the PL that year. Must admit, don't remember the penalty miss against Barca. For me, "legend" means many things - I don't particularly see Giggs as one but I do Beckham (hard to explain other than Becks was United through and through, we've all seen him in his United shirt as a kid at Spurs). People accuse me of being a Ronaldo fan boy, but in the thread about our top 10 players of all time, I actually forgot him in my first two drafts...
Not diminishing his contribution during “that” successful period (reaching back to back UCL finals, 3 in a row etc) because he was our best player - the team was also set up to get the best out of him. I think we still win the PL because someone like Rooney or Tevez would have stepped up and scored more, instead. See Benzema at Madrid for reference. But it’s a moot point anyway, because Ronaldo’s goals did help us win those trophies.
Yeah it was a lot of discussion at that time that he wasn't good in big games. That discussion continued into his Madrid days but obviously went quiet after all the CL goals in the knockout rounds year after year.
so they would sign someone who's scored 3 goals, 2 of which were against Sheriff and one of them being a penalty?