Yup.
I hate to see mental illness just being automatically thrown at something that is clearly facism. He may be mentally ill in some way I have no idea, but being a right wing nut has nothing to do with mental illness at all. People need to stop labelling these types of people mentally ill as if it's some sort of reason or justification for his views. It is not.
What were they?
At what point do mentally ill people go from being vulnerable to being total fecking pricks who aren’t vulnerable? Is there a line? Does it depend what kind of things they’re saying? Their age?
Mentally ill people can be pricks just like everyone else can be - but if somebody with a mental illness is a prick then they are just a prick who happens to have a mental illness. Being mentally ill does not excuse or give reason to somebody acting like a dick. It is a fact that people with a mental illness are some of the most vulnerable people in our society and reading some of the posts in here just goes to show how much ignorance there still is about it. People are people and some people are arseholes and some are not. Some people are right wing facists and some people arent - this has nothing to do with mental illness.
I mean if you want to take the conversation far enough you can go back to house slaves and people just wanting a seat at the oppressors table so at times doing horrific things to their peers. It’s nothing new.
Exactly, this notion than Kanye must be mentally ill and not a cnut is infuriating and damaging to society as a whole. Does he have his mental issues, almost certainly. Is that the reason he’s a cnut? Absolutely not. The latter explains what’s going on here, the former doesn’t.
The new Clayton Bigsby.
Maybe he is a sociopath, or just really really stupid, and and given a disproportionate voice by his wealth. Like so many feckwits.
Alex Jones got zero mental health mitigation despite clearly being unbalanced from ever since. Lawrence Fox looks in an increasingly dire mental state yet gets dogs abuse without any consideration for his dog fell in a well countenance. Donald Trump is routinely trolled for being a dick and also trolled for his physical and mental issues.
No, their emotions are as wide ranging as anyone, they just just fail to understand emotions in others. I think.
I don't think anyone is dismissing it, they just don't like that it's being used as a vague mitigation or some reason we should engage with someone championing Hitler with anything other than disdain.
No it doesn't.
He had medication but said he refuses to take them.
Yeah, that was my point!
Does Alex Jones say "number 1 show in the world right now, everyone is tuning in....gay....everybody, I appreciate you being here."
He's basically turning into / turned into a regular off the shelf far right white supremacist. And yes, you can get black skinned white supremacists.
I really don’t think that the trajectory of the above-mentioned’s views are comparable to Kanye’s and he had been on a downward spiral for a while now.
Meh. Kanye was noted to have mental health issues long before he went on this far right bent, whereas someone like Alex Jones was happy to claim his shtick was him playing a character as soon as he landed in court for child custody issues. Have the likes of Trump, Fox or Jones actually been diagnosed with something as serious as bipolar disorder? Or been hospitalised for mental health reasons as Kanye was in 2016?
Again, it doesn’t excuse it but one of the symptoms of manic episodes (and Kanye openly stated that he was diagnosed as bipolar) are the absence of critical thinking.
I've worked in mental health for almost 15 years - I've been reluctant to play the 'I know stuff about this' card but it's getting increasingly difficult to read some of the stuff in this thread without doing it. I've worked closely with people diagnosed with Bi-Polar many times, some of whom didn't take their medications and became very unwell. I watched the infowars interview and my observation was that this is not somebody currently having a manic episode. There was no pressure of speech and he didn't appear agitated or distracted. If he was having a period of mania it would be very clear this was the case. I see no evidence of this in his behaviour at all.
Think he's saying 'Ye'.Does Alex Jones say "number 1 show in the world right now, everyone is tuning in....gay....everybody, I appreciate you being here."
At 35 seconds in.
I think that is the key point here.
Fair enough. I do agree with you that in general using mental illness as an excuse is a terrible thing to do but then we do know that he was diagnosed with it so at least we don’t assume the illness?
They are much more likely to have been cultivated when he was well which would have probably been most of the time. You don't suddenly become radicalised because you are having a manic episode, in my opinion much less likely actually because a person's concentration is so impaired by mania it's unlikely he would be able to focus on something long enough to take it in. Paranoia (which could be something that changes our perception of other people) is something that can be a feature of mental illness, but that is generally with Schizophrenia. Bi-Polar as you are probably aware is an illness that impacts on mood. Sometimes people can become psychotic when severely depressed as well but that is quite rare.
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There are many non-white white supremacists in this world. As a person of Indian descent I see it in some who share my heritage. The moniker of "Uncle Tom" didn't come out of nowhere either. Granted, most aren't outright neo nazis like Kanye, but there are many non-white white supremacists.
