Joao Felix / on loan to Chelsea

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We’re not stacked in SS/AM imo, certainly not quality wise
Yeah stacked was the wrong word. But he'd have to rotate with Bruno, which would be a total waste, play out of position or have Bruno play on the wing. Not exactly ideal for the hefty sum involved
 

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Yeah stacked was the wrong word. But he'd have to rotate with Bruno, which would be a total waste, play out of position or have Bruno play on the wing. Not exactly ideal for the hefty sum involved
Its price dependent for me. Atletico won’t get the hefty fee they are asking for either. For me Felix could he the ideal false 9
 

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Wish Flo would sign his girlfriend so we could get him and Pedro Porro as well. 2 for the price of 1 :drool:
 

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Concert Felix to a 90s Scholes AM/MF player as mentioned a few pages back.

———Casemiro—-Eriksen/Bruno———-

———-—————-Felix——————————-

—Antony——-—Rashford———Garnacho
 

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Covering all bases, journalism is an easy gig.
He's not claiming to know anything, he's just reporting on what Marca have said and given his opinion. :lol: relax
 

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He would bench Rashford imo
Rashford is currently Utd's most dangerous attacking player, and also the only one with significant pace. Plus there's Garnacho just making a break-through.

Spending a lot of money to stick a player at LW is near enough the lowest of Utd's priorities right now.
 

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He looked pretty damn good a bit deeper last night. Him and Bruno in front of Casemiro could work. His passing is not as good as Eriksen but he is twice as quick.
 

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The Villa link is clearly a plant. Absolutely NO chance Villa have the money Atleti will want and why the hell would Felix go there?!
 

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Right now Antony and Sancho are misfiring, a loan test could work wonders for us presently. I think there's games he could work as a #9 in the EPL, we would still need a more physical and goal oriented striker though.
Since when has Antony been misfiring?
 

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I think Felix plays in a role that is already taken by Garnacho/Rashford..

We much more need a central figure rather than player in the places where Felix operates
 

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We are talking about a coach that was comfortable playing Tadic up front.
 

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We’re not stacked in SS/AM imo, certainly not quality wise
I would argue that SS/AM is Bruno best position, as well as Eriksen and VDB. Then there is Bellingham, who would also be best suited to that position, and Felix. Someone mentioned Bayern being in for Felix, but they already have Musiala. Going back to our position, so many on the caf are talking about Bellingham and Felix, but what we really need are upgrades at numbers 8 and 9, i.e. Casemiro's midfield partner (for when Eriksen is gassed and ahead of Mctominay and Fred), and an out and out striker for when Martial is inevitably injured (especially now Ronaldo has gone).
 

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I would argue that SS/AM is Bruno best position, as well as Eriksen and VDB. Then there is Bellingham, who would also be best suited to that position, and Felix. Someone mentioned Bayern being in for Felix, but they already have Musiala. Going back to our position, so many on the caf are talking about Bellingham and Felix, but what we really need are upgrades at numbers 8 and 9, i.e. Casemiro's midfield partner (for when Eriksen is gassed and ahead of Mctominay and Fred), and an out and out striker for when Martial is inevitably injured (especially now Ronaldo has gone).
I admit I haven’t seen that much from Bellingham but in my eyes he’s nothing like Felix and they surely don’t share their best position
 

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So basically it could happen but also could not happen. Thanks for that absolutely groundbreaking analysis, Zach.
I enjoyed this particular piece of nonsense!

"However, Villa are one of the few clubs in football that could afford to pull off a deal for Félix and shouldn’t be discarded"

If Villa are a club that could afford to pull off a deal then that means every single club bigger than Aston Villa can!
 

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I enjoyed this particular piece of nonsense!

"However, Villa are one of the few clubs in football that could afford to pull off a deal for Félix and shouldn’t be discarded"

If Villa are a club that could afford to pull off a deal then that means every single club bigger than Aston Villa can!
You massively underestimate who owns Villa. They’re certainly not looking for pennies down the back of the sofa.

One of the co owners alone has double the net worth of the Glazer family.
 

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I think Felix plays in a role that is already taken by Garnacho/Rashford..

We much more need a central figure rather than player in the places where Felix operates
We have an LVG level tactical implementation coach.

All this means nothing to him. He has a skill set that makes him useful in many positions and that’s all that matters.
 

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Not entirely convinced. Hes not a CM and Bruno is bad enough with his discipline in the midfield.
He's literally never played CM at any point in his career!

I admit I haven’t seen that much from Bellingham but in my eyes he’s nothing like Felix and they surely don’t share their best position
They are completely different! Bellingham is a CM, capable of box to box, Felix does his best work as a second striker.

Part of the problem that Felix has is that most teams don't play with a second striker any more.
He'd be ideal in a 4-2-3-1 formation but virtually no teams regularly play this way, as trying to play this formation against a 4-3-3 means you get overran in midfield.

His best bet in the long run would be to try and become a false nine, in a similar way to how Martial or Firmino plays.
 

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You massively underestimate who owns Villa. They’re certainly not looking for pennies down the back of the sofa.

One of the co owners alone has double the net worth of the Glazer family.
It's not that I underestimate Villa, it's more the phrase that Villa are one of the 'few' clubs in football that could afford to pull off a deal. At least seven other English clubs could!

If he ends up going to Villa, it will be mainly because no big clubs want him!
 

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We are talking about a coach that was comfortable playing Tadic up front.
This. People here are looking at it in the sense that where he plays at the moment for Portugal/ATM but he does have the qualities to play as a false 9 similar to how Tadic was used.
 

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I think there's quite a few park the bus sides in the Dutch league when they play against Ajax.
Which is why Dolberg/Huntelaar started the majority of the time...
 

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I think Felix plays in a role that is already taken by Garnacho/Rashford..

We much more need a central figure rather than player in the places where Felix operates
At least for Portugal, his role is completely different than how we play Garnacho/Rashford who normally stays and operates wide on left. Felix seldom goes wide and he seems prefer to play in between. But it could be tactic though.
I think his value to us is more like Silver to mancity. But he needs work rate a bit better.
 

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I enjoyed this particular piece of nonsense!

"However, Villa are one of the few clubs in football that could afford to pull off a deal for Félix and shouldn’t be discarded"

If Villa are a club that could afford to pull off a deal then that means every single club bigger than Aston Villa can!

There are only 9 clubs in Europe with a bigger net spend in the last 5 years.
 

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ETH has shown the ability to line a team up with a big target man and a false 9....

If ETH wants him get him if the price is reasonable. Besides I am sure Agent Bruno is already talking to him and sousing out the viability of the whole endeavor ;).
 

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A player in a team who average 50% possession will typically have more opportunity to generate pure defensive stats like tackles/interceptions compared to a player in a team with 66% possession. It wouldn't mean he's actually better or even as good defensively though.

There's a reason City as a team rank bottom in the PL for tackles/interceptions while Atletico rank 2nd in La Liga. And it isn't because all the Atletico players are way better defensively.
We can discuss all the stats we want. At the end of the day, I was just referring to the notion that Felix is weaker than de Bruyne defensively; which isn't supported by the stats. I still believe that Felix would be an excellent #8 in the mold of Frenkie de Jong and a key cog in our midfield puzzle.

In my own opinion, the defensive side of the game is easier to train as players age. That's why we see players like Rooney move from Forwards, to Attacking Midfields, to Midfields.
 

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If we are going to sign a player from portugal, maybe take a look at that Goncalo Ramos guy
 

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I would argue that SS/AM is Bruno best position, as well as Eriksen and VDB. Then there is Bellingham, who would also be best suited to that position, and Felix. Someone mentioned Bayern being in for Felix, but they already have Musiala. Going back to our position, so many on the caf are talking about Bellingham and Felix, but what we really need are upgrades at numbers 8 and 9, i.e. Casemiro's midfield partner (for when Eriksen is gassed and ahead of Mctominay and Fred), and an out and out striker for when Martial is inevitably injured (especially now Ronaldo has gone).
VDB isn’t good enough and Eriksen plays deeper. We’re not stacked
 

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Rashford is currently Utd's most dangerous attacking player, and also the only one with significant pace. Plus there's Garnacho just making a break-through.

Spending a lot of money to stick a player at LW is near enough the lowest of Utd's priorities right now.
Rashford contract is expired in 2024.
 

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I think Felix plays in a role that is already taken by Garnacho/Rashford..

We much more need a central figure rather than player in the places where Felix operates
Completely different role to Garnacho/Rashford. That‘s the position of someone who plays wide playmaker by drifting inside to do playmaker.
 

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I would argue that SS/AM is Bruno best position, as well as Eriksen and VDB. Then there is Bellingham, who would also be best suited to that position, and Felix. Someone mentioned Bayern being in for Felix, but they already have Musiala. Going back to our position, so many on the caf are talking about Bellingham and Felix, but what we really need are upgrades at numbers 8 and 9, i.e. Casemiro's midfield partner (for when Eriksen is gassed and ahead of Mctominay and Fred), and an out and out striker for when Martial is inevitably injured (especially now Ronaldo has gone).
Yeah Eriksen cover and a out and out number 9 is exactly what we need down the middle
 

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He can play false 9, no 10, left and right, has flair and vision to find his team mate, can pass and score, including header and still 23 years old.

To reflect his talent:
Golden Boy 2019
Atl Madrid Player of the Year: 2021–2022
Europa League Squad of the Season: 2018-2019
Ballon dor 2019 (28th place)
La Liga Team of the Season: 2021-2022

He will be much better under attacking manager/coach. Right now, Simeone defensive football is holding him back. We should take him if he's available. He can provide cover in 3-4 different positions.
 
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