Gaming 1836 - The Europa Universalis 4 Experiment (Hands-off) - Map & stats in second post - Final Map and Stats update - Timelapse video

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No need mate, I will bow out here and hopefully have a better shake of it next time.
Man, I almost feel bad. Don't worry Stob, my mafia capos will take good care of your people. @nimic Are Shakesey and I allied, and is he still at war with the Spaniards?

Wouldn't mind some of that Land...

:lol: this is hilarious.

@AnotherLondonManc we are a beast of an alliance. I’ll meet you in Corfu for snacks to celebrate your fecking of @Stobzilla to bits
Yes, mio amico! Here's to many more successful conquests ahead
 

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Man, I almost feel bad. Don't worry Stob, my mafia capos will take good care of your people. @nimic Are Shakesey and I allied, and is he still at war with the Spaniards?
You're not, but you're not enemies either. You probably will be though. He's done with the Iberians for now, though I think (not in the game atm) that he's still allied with Crackers, which seems like it's going to backfire when the truce is up again.
 

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@nimic there are mods for ck2 that allow you shatter the world into individual counties or duchies. Wonder if that would work in these sorts of scenarios? Would be carnage at the start mind you, but you could fit a lot more players.
 

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@nimic there are mods for ck2 that allow you shatter the world into individual counties or duchies. Wonder if that would work in these sorts of scenarios? Would be carnage at the start mind you, but you could fit a lot more players.
Possibly, I'll have to look into it later. I think it might not be as easy as EU4 though, where I just used the in-game tool to create all of you. I don't think that exactly exists in any other game, so it would be more involved. People make their own mods all the time in all the games though, so I might try something of the sort later.
 

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Rip to Admiral General Mayor Tiber PHD. We hardly knew ye
 

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Possibly, I'll have to look into it later. I think it might not be as easy as EU4 though, where I just used the in-game tool to create all of you. I don't think that exactly exists in any other game, so it would be more involved. People make their own mods all the time in all the games though, so I might try something of the sort later.
There is definitely an EU4 mod for that shattered world thing. Alternately we could just do a random new world, and give everyone a nation in the new world.

CK2 or 3 could also be fun due to the character focus. You could design a little bit of a personality, moreso than in EU4.
 

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There is definitely an EU4 mod for that shattered world thing. Alternately we could just do a random new world, and give everyone a nation in the new world.

CK2 or 3 could also be fun due to the character focus. You could design a little bit of a personality, moreso than in EU4.
Smaller starts means more varied country sizes and development. More interesting imo
 

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There is definitely an EU4 mod for that shattered world thing. Alternately we could just do a random new world, and give everyone a nation in the new world.

CK2 or 3 could also be fun due to the character focus. You could design a little bit of a personality, moreso than in EU4.
CK could be fun too, yeah. It might be a bit harder to visualize, since there's layers of titles.

Lots of different options for EU4 stuff too. I'll try to finish this one before I start planning too hard :lol:
 

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I’ve been tempted to start a new FM experiment. Could have a look at a CK one.
 

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You can move a save all the way from Eu4, through CK2 to Hoi4. Would be cool to see this end up in ww2, but probably a lot of hassle
 

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Europe in 1472 (it's quite zoomed out - and wide - but I'll try to keep it consistent and take the screenshot from here every time, that way it's easier to track change for your country. Also, click for a bigger one!)



KirkDuyt is the Holy Roman Emperor

All of the following stats are Cafites-only. If you want to include the rest of the world, let me know.

Development (total value of provinces)
  1. Solius: 322
  2. Tiber: 288
  3. Walrus: 279
  4. Shakesey: 279
  5. Eboue: 279
  6. RedSky: 266
  7. SaltBailly: 261
  8. Denis79: 261
  9. hobbers: 247
  10. adexkola: 232
Prestige (sort of a "current status" value, goes from -100 to 100)
  1. BD: 57
  2. Solius: 47
  3. VeevaVee: 46
  4. Tiber: 31
  5. Shakesey: 29
  6. RedSky: 28
  7. Dr. Dwayne: 26
  8. Andycoleno9: 25
  9. Wing Attack Plan R: 25
  10. P-Nut: 22
Power Projection (how much have you bullied rivals? Up to 3 nations you've picked that are roughly evenly matched with you - goes from 0 to 100)

  1. RedSky: 74
  2. Eboue: 64
  3. Solius: 62
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 45
  5. BD: 45
  6. Shakesey: 42
  7. Salt Bailly: 42
  8. VeevaVee: 35
  9. Denis79: 35
  10. adexkola: 34
Total Army size (might be misleading, since anyone at war might have mercenaries, and if you lost a war you'll have less right now)

  1. Denis79: 33 000
  2. Salt Bailly: 32 588
  3. adexkola: 31 555
  4. Solius: 31 269
  5. Walrus: 30 000
  6. Abizzz: 30 000
  7. KirkDuyt: 29 790
  8. SilentWitness: 29 188
  9. Tiber: 28 862
  10. AnotherLondonManc: 28 000
  11. RedSky: 28 000
Total Navy Size (Four ship types, but this is usually a decent measure)
  1. AnotherLondonManc: 32
  2. Igor Drefljak: 27
  3. VeevaVee: 26
  4. BD: 26
  5. KirkDuyt: 25
  6. hobbers: 25
  7. Vidyoyo: 24
  8. RedSky: 22
  9. Organic Potatoes: 22
  10. Dr. Dwayne: 22
Total monthly income
  1. Solius: 49
  2. BD: 37
  3. KirkDuyt: 34
  4. AnotherLondonManc: 32
  5. Welsh Wonder: 32
  6. Igor Drefljak: 30
  7. P-Nut: 28
  8. V.O.: 27
  9. VeevaVee: 25
  10. hobbers: 25
Most developed province (this is still just the Cafites)
  1. Roma (VeevaVee): 30
  2. Paris (Eboue): 28
  3. Moskva (Salt Baily): 27
  4. Venezia (P-Nut): 27
  5. Genova (AnotherLondonManc): 27
  6. Qahirah (Wing Attack Plan R): 25
  7. Bordeaux (RedSky): 24
  8. Constantinople (hobbers): 24
  9. Auvergne (RedSky): 23
  10. Napoli (VeevaVee): 23
Why don't I have any stuff
 

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Are we getting the national ideas of the countries we replaced or are they random?
 

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Mostly random, check the introduction posts. Then your AI chooses their ideas. Hopefully someone picks exploration eventually.
Ah maybe I worded that wrong. I meant the missions where when you play England you're basically told to get Paris and it's made a lot easier through the benefits than taking say Madrid. I forgot the specific term I'm afraid.
 

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Ah maybe I worded that wrong. I meant the missions where when you play England you're basically told to get Paris and it's made a lot easier through the benefits than taking say Madrid. I forgot the specific term I'm afraid.
Ah I see. The mission trees are all the same, generic. They do push towards conquest of the culture/region.
 

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Ah I see. The mission trees are all the same, generic. They do push towards conquest of the culture/region.
Nice! One more thing: Could you possibly post the year with the screenshots? (no need for the ones posted already, but in future).


Thanks for doing this by the way!
 

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Scandy and the British Isles been absolute snorefests. Get some fight in ye