To freaking PSG? Forgot how much they paid for David Luiz? No way we should take a loss. We shouldn't sell him at all. We'd lack severe quality on the wings and I'm not sure anyone of his quality is available on the market.
Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG
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I'm not saying we should sell him. Just pointing out his value will have decreased since we signed him. He's had a dissapointing season. Looked nothing like a €60m player.
I dont think we should sell him just yet - wait and see how he performs in his 2nd season.
If he doesnt do well next year, we can sell him (for less money), but at least, we will be giving him a chance.
I'd also like to remind people that he is probably the only player in our team who could produce something from nothing, ie. against the run of play (for example if we are playing top class opponents in the CL) and we need someone who can come off the bench and change the course of a game.
If he doesnt do well next year, we can sell him (for less money), but at least, we will be giving him a chance.
I'd also like to remind people that he is probably the only player in our team who could produce something from nothing, ie. against the run of play (for example if we are playing top class opponents in the CL) and we need someone who can come off the bench and change the course of a game.
His value might have dropped. Doesn't mean his actual price should be any less than what we paid for him. Especially when you consider it's PSG we are talking about. Overpaying is almost natural to them.
It is a case of supply and demand. How much do they want him and how much do we want to keep him. 20% less than we paid for him one year into his five year contract is a perfectly logical starting point for PSG though. They should have come in lower initially I feel.
That's what he himself has said he wants to do. Talk is cheap, but I'm more inclined to believe the words of the actual player over Twitter noise at this point.
Get verratti in return.
We shouldn't sell him to PSG. They don't have enough money. Verratti and Mouria for DI Maria. Else it's a waste of our time. They've been talking for awhile about how he 'wanted to go there'. They are just another City who lack respect so they can go swivel.
This is funny
“I’m no f#@*ing talking to you. He’s a f#@*ing great player. Yous are f#@*ing idiots.” (Sir Alex Ferguson speaking to the media about Juan Sebastian Veron)
Shame you got the quote the wrong way around & used fecking over the correct words.
For £50m we should sell him. He's not a £50m player right now and I very much doubt he will get back to that leve.
All this PSG talk flies directly in the face of what we know of ADM, and his character. Not to mention his own personal statements when he was in Chile. I don't doubt that they're targeting him, but whether he wants to leave is another matter.
Who cares what 'monetary level' he's at. The question is can he help us, and I think it's worth waiting another year to find out (unless there's someone else lined up to replace him.)
Can't see any reason to sell a player who IMO is the most creative player in world football. Give him another season with the right instruction and we could be talking footballer of the year given the level of talent he has.
We should sell him. Sorry fans.
Why? We'd be left with Mata, Young, Januzaj and Memphis for wide positions.
Memphis might not settle in Manchester and replicate his form from the Dutch League. Januzaj was a lot worse than AdM ever was last year, and Mata still isn't really a winger.
Don't think I would sell him. Although he frustrated me a lot last season he still showed moments. I think he can get back to his best.
Amazing that people want to sell him after 1 season, it's like they have never seen players take time to adapt to the English game or new teammates and in spite of all those troubles he was still the clubs top assister.
Not without replacement obviously, but if Paris offered us Lucas who could fill in on the wing (and there will be no place for Di Maria in midfield once Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin join) then it might be worth considering. £40m plus Lucas for instance could represent great value for the club. Or £20m plus Lucas and Marquinhos.
Swap deals never happen though.
Just for the sake of it?
Selling him would really dampen the mood of all these signings for me, unless we have a top quality wide man coming in.
I don't think we will either. Can't see lvg going into the season with delay, mata, januzaj and young as his options. He moaned about not having a top wide man last summer so he's not going to rely on a 20 year old for that.
I dont think there is need to sell him. He needs to be given another season.
If he wants to leave, then I dont see why PSG should not pay >60M for him. After all they paid 40M for Luiz..
If he wants to leave, then I dont see why PSG should not pay >60M for him. After all they paid 40M for Luiz..
Yep. I'd sell him only if he wants to go, a team pays a giant fee, and we have a top notch wide player like due to replace him. I'm not really seeing anyone available so this is a no-go for me. We've not been rumoured to sign anyone either nor is anyone reported to be available.
With the central midfield we have now we are going to play a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1 and that will give Di Maria more freedom. I think that is something LVG has been planing towards.
He's the *only* guy who runs at the defence confidently. He had the highest number of dribbles, also highest number of key passes. When you read that apart from ADM, Young and Valencia are the best dribblers, you know that there is lack of pace and trickery in the team.
Quoted for truth. Unless we're getting in Reus or someone, it would be utterly stupid to sell Di Maria, just because we are getting a decent monetary offer.
I would consider selling him if we had a replacement lined up or PSG offered Moura. I don't rate him that high as a winger, not to mention van Gaal style doesn't suit him.
Depay
Let us wait and watch and not declare him Cristiano already..
I have had enough of Shaw fans singing on this forum last year how we got him for cheap for the returns he is going to give us for another 15 years.. I am still waiting and watching what will happen.
Not saying he's going to be great, I was responding to the comment that Di Maria is the only player in the squad who will run at players and make things happen. Depay will do that. How well he will do it remains to be seen of course.Let us wait and watch and not declare him Cristiano already..
I have had enough of Shaw fans singing on this forum last year how we got him for cheap for the returns he is going to give us for another 15 years.. I am still waiting and watching what will happen.
The other side of the joy I am feeling by all this transfer business we did over the weekend is I feel increasingly resigned to us losing Di Maria.
For me he has without doubt been disappointing so far, and I do worry there is a bit of a compatibility issue between Di Maria and Van Gaal. But that is more just an irrational / pessimistic worry than something I arrived at with logic. I would definitely give him another season to prove his worth. I just dont think it will pan out that way. As much as Woodward obviously likes splashing the cash, with a striker and potentially a very expensive CB still to come, I think he will want to recoup some of that money.
For me he has without doubt been disappointing so far, and I do worry there is a bit of a compatibility issue between Di Maria and Van Gaal. But that is more just an irrational / pessimistic worry than something I arrived at with logic. I would definitely give him another season to prove his worth. I just dont think it will pan out that way. As much as Woodward obviously likes splashing the cash, with a striker and potentially a very expensive CB still to come, I think he will want to recoup some of that money.
I would have felt infuriated losing him before our recent signings, but now I'm indifferent either way.
I'd still like him to stay because when on form he's a joy to watch, but looking at how much depth we now have in midfield, I wouldn't mind using him as leverage to strengthen our search for a striker we sorely lack.
I'd still like him to stay because when on form he's a joy to watch, but looking at how much depth we now have in midfield, I wouldn't mind using him as leverage to strengthen our search for a striker we sorely lack.
There is a certain logic to the story about the Di Maria for Cavani swap, although I doubt it will actually happen.
I don't see any logic in selling him, in fact its plain dumb. For long we've missed pace and trickery on the wings and Depay and Di Maria would provide exactly that. Plus there aren't players available on the market to replace him if we're considering selling him.
Anyone know when he and Rojo will be joining up with the rest of the squad?
Di Maria's injured. So might not join up when Rojo does.
I hope not too soon. Both had long 2 seasons in a row with Argentina reaching two finals. Then moving to another country especially if you already have a family also costs time and energy. I'd rather they are well rested and join up a bit later.
Hammy! Feck, he'll be out until around August - Sep.
Hope we don't sell him. World class on his day; the first few games he had for us, he was on a different level to everyone else.
So no pre season. Not a great start to his turning things around year.
Probably for the best, the team would have gelled by then and he will flourish.
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