Is that before or after we've paid the installments due on what we owe other teams for previous transfers?
Šeško or Watkins?
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I am honestly surprised it's so even.
Sesko has more natural ability, but he is years away from translating that to being a better player. He'd be similar to Højlund in the sense that you're paying for his potential without accounting for the cost in development minutes you can't afford to give him, nor the risk of him falling into a downturn due to being expected to do too much too soon.
His lacking development is also the kind you simply don't want, especially in the Premier league. He struggles to impose himself on games and spends far too much time simply not participating in a meaningful way.
Watkins knows the league, is experienced, scores goals, assists and would be a good foil and focal point for 3-4 seasons. He's a no brainer for the kind of investment plan that says "let's secure back to back CL qualification and then look at the next level of investment ".
You need a well oiled Audi ready to go, no matter the mileage. Not a porsche missing parts and hoping you can fix it during the race.
Sesko has more natural ability, but he is years away from translating that to being a better player. He'd be similar to Højlund in the sense that you're paying for his potential without accounting for the cost in development minutes you can't afford to give him, nor the risk of him falling into a downturn due to being expected to do too much too soon.
His lacking development is also the kind you simply don't want, especially in the Premier league. He struggles to impose himself on games and spends far too much time simply not participating in a meaningful way.
Watkins knows the league, is experienced, scores goals, assists and would be a good foil and focal point for 3-4 seasons. He's a no brainer for the kind of investment plan that says "let's secure back to back CL qualification and then look at the next level of investment ".
You need a well oiled Audi ready to go, no matter the mileage. Not a porsche missing parts and hoping you can fix it during the race.
Neither of those sound like reliable options for getting anywhere.
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Potential is like a drug on here
No matter how many times we prove not to be a great place for developing young talents, we always need the next thing.
Eventually one's got to hit though I suppose.
Hopefully he turns out to be an Amad and Yoro rather than a Sancho and Hojlund
Is Sesko even a real person?
Good point. That would be before. We apparently owe £89m this summer relating to earlier transfers.
An optimistic timeline would suggest we are 3+ years away from seriously competing for anything of note. Not sure how investing big money in a guy tuning 30 in a couple of months could be seen as a wise move in that context
Different conversation if we needed someone to come in and score a few key goals to push us over the edge right now like we did with RVP
Different conversation if we needed someone to come in and score a few key goals to push us over the edge right now like we did with RVP
But Sesko exploding in the PL is not so sure at all. Based on which attackers signed from Germany except Haaland?
If we could get the transfer fee down to 35 a 40 million I would go for Watkins, just as a stopgap for now until we find a better striker than Sesko in the next two years.
I don't think the question can easily be answered.
What we need to be asking is which player suits the instructions that Amorim will be giving them and their team mates.
Based on what we saw last year, we still seem to punt the ball hopefully towards Hojlund. If we continue to do that this season then Sesko would be the better transfer option for us.
What we need to be asking is which player suits the instructions that Amorim will be giving them and their team mates.
Based on what we saw last year, we still seem to punt the ball hopefully towards Hojlund. If we continue to do that this season then Sesko would be the better transfer option for us.
It's difficult really. Like many have pointed out, Watkins would hit the ground running and would likely be better for this season. Šeško likely has a higher ceiling so there's potential for a lot more there. People are of course worried by the Hojlund example, but Šeško has been in the limelight a lot longer so he can likely handle the pressure more and I think he's a better player with a higher ceiling (though I still believe Hojlund could develop into a very good player and that we should look to find a very good loan for him).
The way Amorim would want to use them is probably similar, make runs into the channels to drag the defense apart and create space for the new recruits to wreak havoc, while also offering that out ball whether that's from long punts or line breaking passes. I hope his first touch is good enough for us to thread the ball to him to get the team further up the pitch, which is something Hojlund struggles massively with both because he's not strong enough, and because his first touch is ropey.
I hope that regardless of which one we go for, the idea is to play the same football and that they are confident in both fitting the vision they have (subtext here is: I hope there is a clear vision within the footballing department and the coaching staff).
If that is the case then that's a big % of the cash and credit is gone
You need players to get you there in 3+ years. Not talents thrown in the deep end. See Højlund.
Nah, Sit Alex would somehow convince Isak to sign for us instead.
He'd sign both tbf
Never ever would’ve let Kane land anywhere else.
Big difference. We already signed two prem proven players, which will take the pressure off Sesko.
Hojlund was poor, but the players around him like Rashford, Sancho and Antony didn’t help at all.
You might also argue that those same players might take the pressure of Hojlund as well
'I guess we'll never know'
Maybe, maybe not, there's no guarantee we do a deal or that Hojlund leaves
Anyone have any decent sesko videos which don't make him look like Harry Kane?
My preference would have been E) Mateta, but voted for Sesko because I feel between the two that’s the preferred option and I don’t think we can disregard the striker position this year.
Genuinely, why mateta? He's a year younger than Watkins, less consistent and less productive. A couple of decent seasons and he seems on so many lists.
I only prefer sesko because it's pronounced SHESHKO.
Thanks mate, owe you a pint. I'd say he looks a little raw or maybe not as clinical as you might want. He definitely gets his shots off. Sometimes maybe he should have passed or gotten into the box before shooting. So he's definitely not shy about shooting but sometimes a little rash. His shooting technique is a little inconsistent. When he gets his head down for those long shots he keeps the ball in the frame but when he doesn't he tends to sky it. I saw a lot of low shots, daisy cutters, and I think he's trying to do that so he doesn't sky it, but it ends up making it easier to save. If he can improve his shooting technique he should be really productive. However, one thing i did not see is many or any headers which is weird for someone his size.
Last thing i'll note is he is very different to hojlund. Seems to find the ball in the right spaces to shoot, whereas hojlund seems to not be in the right place at the right time (the anti-chicharito).
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When I read that it was spoken by Sean Connery
No worries. That YT account is worth a follow. Much more comprehensive than your average “wank to” highlight reels.
Which DM and which goalkeeper though?
Hardly an amazing choice out there, especially given the sums the likely contenders would go for.
Not even Garnacho would miss so many sitters!!
What a weird buy this would be, when we need a guaranteed goal scorer.
I feel next year will be the same with strikers, there aren't many out there so if we get the chance to sign one this window we should take it. All the good talents and experienced strikers are moving this window, Osimhen, Gyokeres, Isak, Ekitike, Duran, Delap, Joao Pedro, Kolo Muani, Jonathan David and few more. Next season there will even be less strikers to sign at the rate most of them are moving this transfer window. If you are worried about signing high risk strikers now then next season will be worse.
I don't know, none of the options are great. With "neither" being the worst. We need a striker, it's a must. We can't continue with Hojlund as our main striker.
Villa will ask 60m for Watkins, he'll soon be 30. It would be irresponsible to pay that much, no matter how "prem proven" he is. It's still not a guarantee he will do well in a different setup.
Šeško, big potential but too expensive, still too raw.
Ideally, Watkins for 40m but that's not happening so honestly, don't know. If Vivell is really pushing for Šeško then I guess that's what we should do.
Villa will ask 60m for Watkins, he'll soon be 30. It would be irresponsible to pay that much, no matter how "prem proven" he is. It's still not a guarantee he will do well in a different setup.
Šeško, big potential but too expensive, still too raw.
Ideally, Watkins for 40m but that's not happening so honestly, don't know. If Vivell is really pushing for Šeško then I guess that's what we should do.
He would. Nobody but elite players looks good on these "last xx shots" compilations.
Couldn't we just... sign both??
Fully on the Sesko train
Oh look at that. Surprise surprise.
Telling ya, it's all a game of clicks. Best thing is to look historically at the absurd budget we have spent consistently.
I prefer Watkins for the better price, epl experience and existing understanding with Mbuemo. Yet I'm I'm no doubt either signing will work well with Cunha and Mbuemo.
Ok, cheers for letting me know.
Not surprised Sesko is leading the poll. We need to trust the new football structure people to make long term planning for the club. We should really stop spending 60m with big wages on 30 years old. Even Real Madrid stop this policy years ago. We need to run the club sustainabily
Yeah completely agree
Watkins is my preferred choice, but if rumours of Villa wanting £60m are true then it's a absolute no-go.
Still not convinced Sesko is the way forward for the prices quoted either, but the fact is we desperately need an upgrade on Hojlund, so paying over the odds to sign our primary target may be a necessity
Still not convinced Sesko is the way forward for the prices quoted either, but the fact is we desperately need an upgrade on Hojlund, so paying over the odds to sign our primary target may be a necessity
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