‘Elite’ hipster CBs vs Maguire & Lindelöf

[criticalanalysis]

People seriously think Rio and Vidic would struggle in 'modern' football?

Utterly bizarre isn't it.

Rio and Vidic would be the best centre back pairing in the world bar none today. If you suddenly teleported them from over 10 years ago and put them in a game tomorrow, of course they would 'struggle' to an extent because the opposition would know everything about them but give them a few months/year to get accustomed and they would annihilate the opposition.

Imagine Rio and Vidic playing against one opposition striker, playing with a compact and pressing midfield in front of them, who make constant triangles for passing lanes etc in a team that will press high and get back in numbers.

Some of you guys haven't really thought this through.

Even on a individual level if they were playing on their own, they would still absolutely dominate ffs. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

Vidic was an aggressive defender who gave the opposition no space, very good in 1-on-1, zonally and man marking. His biggest weakness would probably be getting dragged out wide in the channels but his positoning and reading of the game is so good, he would rarely get exposed anyways. Rio would be the modern CB reincarnate.

Of course both would need decent partners but that's the same for literally everyone at any point of time in the history of football.

 

[HowYouDoin]

Maguire beats Lindelof in every single metric that matters for a defender, including winning twice as many aerial battles, which is pretty damn important for a CB. Last season he also got bailed out by AWB constantly, make a change on RB which leaves Lindelof to defend 1v1 and lo an behold he gets torn apart

That was very apparent in the Crystal Palace game. Lindelof is a weak link.

 

[El Jefe]

Another corker of a thread by the OP . No surprise he's also the biggest Ole in supporter.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Another corker of a thread by the OP . No surprise he's also the biggest Ole in supporter.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

This thread is something else. Title instantly cracks me up

 

[izec]

His blind and irrational love for Ole is turning him into a joke

 

[Robbie Boy]

This thread is something else. Title instantly cracks me up

When you see who the OP is, it all makes sense

 

[RoyH1]

I’ll take the “elite” hipster CB’s thank you

 

[amolbhatia50k]

When you see who the OP is, it all makes sense

Don't worry. Every manager is Klopp and will win all everything after year 3. Patience equals success. Next time I give an exam I'll just stare at my sheet patiently knowing I'll eventually get every answer right.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Don't worry. Every manager is Klopp and will win all everything after year 3. Patience equals success. Next time I give an exam I'll just stare at my sheet patiently knowing I'll eventually get every answer right.

The Ole/Klopp comparisons crack me up

 

[lilcurt]

We don't need elite, Chris Smalling is our best defender but we are letting him go because he can't play out from the back.

Surely playing out from the back should be secondary to actually defending?

 

[Tyrion]

I forgot about this. Hasn't aged well.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

We don't need elite, Chris Smalling is our best defender but we are letting him go because he can't play out from the back.

Surely playing out from the back should be secondary to actually defending?

Absolutely. If you have CBs who can do both well then great but given we don't I've always said I'd take Smalling as one our two main CBs. Who wouldn't want to play out from the back? But if that means defending like a bunch of wimps, give me someone like Smalling anyday.

 

[Paxi]

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

Still can't believe some of the replies to me earlier on in this thread.

 

[Cassidy]

Well this went well...

 

[Moby]

Easily the worst thread on the forum right now.

 

[VorZakone]

@sammsky1 don't let them make fun of you!

 

[Skills]

This thread's a car crash just like any topic the OP has ever invested anytime forming an opinion on.

 

[Moby]

it’s very clear that Maguire and Lindelöf are far better at actual defending than many of our fans give them credit.

This bit though.

 

[CG1010]

Since this thread was created, both of them have turned completely shit. I say burn this thread down NOW!

 

[Gazza]

This bit though.

but "hipsters" and "fanboys" though. He had such a convincing argument

 

[sammsky1]

@sammsky1 don't let them make fun of you!

Got to love Manchester United fans who can't even support their own players. Not much else to say really.

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

Got to love Manchester United fans who can't even support their own players. Not much else to say really.

Supporting is one thing, but you're arguing that Manchester United supporters should bury their heads in the sand and not trust their own eyes.

 

[sammsky1]

Supporting is one thing, but you're arguing that Manchester United supporters should bury their heads in the sand and not trust their own eyes.

I mean if gloating that our players played shit makes you a top red, well that's not for me.

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

I mean if gloating that our players played shit makes you a top red, well that's not for me.

No one's gloating that they're shit, they're laughing at the notion that they could ever be considered better than the likes of Koulibaly and Varane.

 

[Charles Miller]

Pochettino is a hipster in my opinion.

 

[Gazza]

Got to love Manchester United fans who can't even support their own players. Not much else to say really.

People are having a laugh about what was clearly a misguided post on your part, to be kind. To try to link it to 'supporting the players' is even more hilarious, thanks for the laughs on this difficult day mate

 

[sammsky1]

People are having a laugh about what was clearly a misguided post on your part, to be kind. To try to link it to 'supporting the players' is even more hilarious, thanks for the laughs on this difficult day mate

Not really. Plenty of defenders have shocking days, just like all those 'elite' defenders did during latter stages on the europe cups.
Was Maguire's turn today. Am not sure what is gained from gloating on how shit he was today.

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

Not really. Plenty of defenders have shocking days, just like all those 'elite' defenders did during latter stages on the europe cups.
Was Maguire's turn today. Am not sure what is gained from gloating on how shit he was today.

You've spelt "careers" wrong

 

[BulgarianDevil91]

People seriously think Rio and Vidic would struggle in 'modern' football?

I miss having Vidic on the pitch. Man would slap the living hell out of all these feckers in the dressing room.

 

[sammsky1]

I think my man Victor Lindelof became a hipster tonight
And Axel is an elite hipster.

 

[crossy1686]

I think the issue might actually be Maguire folks, not Lindelof. He looked a lot more assured when he knew he didn't have to have one eye on the space behind him all night because he knew Tuanzebe would be able to track back if needed. Lindelof has had to track back for both him and Maguire and anticipate Maguire getting caught out all season.

 

[Bebestation]

I think a 3 man defence will help any defender out.

It limits the channels you have to focus on and split it in to 3 rather than 2.

I think Maguire and Lindelof can benefit from it. Either way we wont be able to play a 3 at the back formation all the time so we do need more CB'S that overtake the places of the non existent ones of Rojo and Jones.

 

[elmo]

Yet another train-wreck of a thread

 

[Bojan11]

Yet another timeless classic from the thread creator.

Please bring me these elite hipster defenders.

 

[Cassidy]

Great thread

 

[Andycoleno9]

Yet another timeless classic from the thread creator.

Please bring me these elite hipster defenders.

. This

 

[UDontMessWith24]

Why does this child get taken seriously enough to have such long threads? It’s like arguing with an 8 year old.

 

[Dong Fangzhuo]

Yeah who wants elite CBs, hipsters that's who.